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Post by matt on Nov 2, 2014 13:29:38 GMT -5
Ye honestly don't think a reunion will happen?! It will definitely happen, sooner than we all think. I'd rather it never happened though. With Liam in the musical wilderness he'll be leanin' on Noel to get them back together & Noel will eventually give in, he'll more than likely see it as a waste that Liam isn't puttin' music out & as he is his brother will give in & a reunion will happen. Said this before, she's definitely playin' a part in this. I don't see how an Oasis reunion benefits Noel. He's writing better songs now. His album sounded more well rounded. His tours are equal in size to latter day Oasis gigs for the most part. He seems happy for once. Does playing a stadium mean that much to Noel? I agree, its a big backwards step for Noel, but money talks louder than sense. This reunion thing is gonna happen eventually I feel - I can see the point in the one off gig, but its not going to be up there with the Led Zeppelin reunion or even Police reunion (I can't say I listen to both bands that much but watching performances it looks amazing) what's the point? Liam's voice is fucked - what's the point in Live Forever being butchered as if its been sung by a chainsaw? The 'nostalgic factor' then comes round to kick you in the balls.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 13:32:46 GMT -5
The tweet it's still there. You have to see on Tweets and Answers. Oh I was on my phone, maybe that has something to do with it. So this doesn't necessarily confirm what we thought. Liam left..but was it really his decision? I'm curious what happened. Are you being serious? It's as clear as day as to what happened. So she said "Liam left" and you think that he was forced out? Yeah that makes a lot of sense. That's why she didn't know about it until after the event. Come on man, think. Clearly what's happened is that Liam is being a selfish pr*ck again and making decisions without thinking about the consequences on other people. Either he thinks an Oasis reunion is around the corner, which is just stupid, or he thinks he can make it as a 'musician' without the help of Gem and Andy, which is even more stupid. Either way, Liam's actions are self-serving as always. I have little sympathy for his failing career.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 2, 2014 13:34:15 GMT -5
I don't see how an Oasis reunion benefits Noel. He's writing better songs now. His album sounded more well rounded. His tours are equal in size to latter day Oasis gigs for the most part. He seems happy for once. Does playing a stadium mean that much to Noel? I don't think it makes sense for them to do a reunion either but it will definitely happen. He won't want to see Liam left out in the cold for so long eventually so will come to the rescue. You know there is a flip side to that coin that fans hardly ever speak of. Liam could launch his own successful solo career. I'd prefer to see that happen. I'd like for Liam to be successful on his own merits instead of having to rely on a potential Oasis reunion to save his day. This man has talent and with the right producer and songwriting partners, it can be realized fully.
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Post by LlAM on Nov 2, 2014 13:37:30 GMT -5
Maybe "Liam left" means Chris, Andy and Gem walked out... and then there's.... Liam left.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 13:43:07 GMT -5
Maybe "Liam left" means Chris, Andy and Gem walked out... and then there's.... Liam left.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 2, 2014 13:44:17 GMT -5
Judging by one single comment on twitter about band's split by Gem's wife isn't fair to me. I don't like to speculate like "if...", "If Liam would have been this/that...".
I still find it's a shame that they broke up and I hate when people jump on like it was Liam to blame that they broke up.
It is what it is now. Andy already took the new step. Hopefully Gem will find his way to carry his music as both Gem and Andy are very talented musicians.
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Post by joladella on Nov 2, 2014 13:48:13 GMT -5
Maybe we should consider that Mrs. Archer is hardly objective herself. Maybe it's true, but we don't know why. Also, if his heart was no longer in it, would it have been fair to keep going? As the split was what we have been expecting/fearing for a long time it does not sound like he walked just for the hell of it. And saying that she only had known one day before the fact does not necessarily mean that it came as a surprise.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 13:49:25 GMT -5
Judging by one single comment on twitter about band's split by Gem's wife isn't fair to me. I don't like to speculate like "if...", "If Liam would have been this/that...". I still find it's a shame that they broke up and I hate when people jump on like it was Liam to blame that they broke up. It is what it is now. Andy already took the new step. Hopefully Gem will find his way to carry his music as both Gem and Andy are very talented musicians. Whatever you think happened, what's undeniable is that Liam announced the split in the most asshole way possible - on his personal Twitter. Again, it's just self-serving. His band mates and friends deserve much more respect than that. An official statement by the band would been the proper way to do it.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 13:56:23 GMT -5
Maybe we should consider that Mrs. Archer is hardly objective herself. Maybe it's true, but we don't know why. Also, if his heart was no longer in it, would it have been fair to keep going?As the split was what we have been expecting/fearing for a long time it does not sound like he walked just for the hell of it. And saying that she only had known one day before the fact does not necessarily mean that it came as a surprise. I'm sorry, but that's not how a band of supposedly equals works. Anyway, I'm sure that is the view Liam took. Much like how his 'heart was no longer in it' with his multitude of partners. You probably think that because his heart was no longer in it, it was ok for him to cheat on Nicole too.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2014 14:04:58 GMT -5
Judging by one single comment on twitter about band's split by Gem's wife isn't fair to me. I don't like to speculate like "if...", "If Liam would have been this/that...". I still find it's a shame that they broke up and I hate when people jump on like it was Liam to blame that they broke up. It is what it is now. Andy already took the new step. Hopefully Gem will find his way to carry his music as both Gem and Andy are very talented musicians. Whatever you think happened, what's undeniable is that Liam announced the split in the most asshole way possible - on his personal Twitter. Again, it's just self-serving. His band mates and friends deserve much more respect than that. An official statement by the band would been the proper way to do it. yes of course it would but "the band" hasn't made an announcement.. They had plenty of time to do a press release or even update the site but "the band" didn't do anything. Andy did tweet a thank you, Gem also has twitter and didn't (whether he 'does' twitter or not he has done in past and people follow him so a quick thank you wouldn't have gone a miss). You could argue as "the band" didn't do it, Liam showed most respect by letting people know bdi is over.
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Post by joladella on Nov 2, 2014 14:12:08 GMT -5
Maybe we should consider that Mrs. Archer is hardly objective herself. Maybe it's true, but we don't know why. Also, if his heart was no longer in it, would it have been fair to keep going?As the split was what we have been expecting/fearing for a long time it does not sound like he walked just for the hell of it. And saying that she only had known one day before the fact does not necessarily mean that it came as a surprise. I'm sorry, but that's not how a band of supposedly equals works. It isn't? Sorry, havn't read the manual of how a band of supposedly equals works. So how does it work? He should have gone on without wanting to any longer, obviously? That does not even deserve an answer.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2014 14:17:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but that's not how a band of supposedly equals works. It isn't? Sorry, havn't read the manual of how a band of supposedly equals works. So how does it work? He should have gone on without wanting to any longer, obviously? That does not even deserve an answer. yeah what you thinking ?!! latter day oasis was equal thus the 'rubbish second half of albums due to LAG writing so obv Noel should of never left
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 14:18:06 GMT -5
Whatever you think happened, what's undeniable is that Liam announced the split in the most asshole way possible - on his personal Twitter. Again, it's just self-serving. His band mates and friends deserve much more respect than that. An official statement by the band would been the proper way to do it. yes of course it would but "the band" hasn't made an announcement.. They had plenty of time to do a press release or even update the site but "the band" didn't do anything. Andy did tweet a thank you, Gem also has twitter and didn't (whether he 'does' twitter or not he has done in past and people follow him so a quick thank you wouldn't have gone a miss). You could argue as "the band" didn't do it, Liam showed most respect by letting people know bdi is over. Talk about twisted logic. No official statement was released because Liam went ahead and did it himself! So you think Liam was sitting at home checking the BDI website thinking "where is that official announcement? Dammit, I can't wait any longer, I'll just do it myself because the world needs to know RIGHT NOW". No, just no. One thing that is probably true though, is that Liam released the tweet at a very strategic moment. It's absolutely no coincidence that he made the tweet just as Noel's second album is building momentum.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2014 14:29:01 GMT -5
yes of course it would but "the band" hasn't made an announcement.. They had plenty of time to do a press release or even update the site but "the band" didn't do anything. Andy did tweet a thank you, Gem also has twitter and didn't (whether he 'does' twitter or not he has done in past and people follow him so a quick thank you wouldn't have gone a miss). You could argue as "the band" didn't do it, Liam showed most respect by letting people know bdi is over. Talk about twisted logic. No official statement was released because Liam went ahead and did it himself! So you think Liam was sitting at home checking the BDI website thinking "where is that official announcement? Dammit, I can't wait any longer, I'll just do it myself because the world needs to know RIGHT NOW". No, just no. One thing that is probably true though, is that Liam released the tweet at a very strategic moment. It's absolutely no coincidence that he made the tweet just as Noel's second album is building momentum. So how is does this benefit Liam at all on the back of noels announcement?? Liams tweets always generate interest at any point in time, I'm sure he didn't split up BDI for a bit off attention. Im pretty sure he could go to any mag/website and even tv show if he craved attention that badly but like the last year he's keeping a low profile. My point is that a week on the "band" have still not said anything normally when an individual says something / leaks something 'the band' would still release a statement still etc. We still have nothing so how do we not know this wasn't decided 3 weeks ago (except from a tweet from Gems wife personal twitter, is she the bands 100% truthful spokesman now?) and as nothings come of it no "band" announcement so he did it himself? You can't blame him for the "band" not announcing anything
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 2, 2014 14:29:25 GMT -5
Oh I was on my phone, maybe that has something to do with it. So this doesn't necessarily confirm what we thought. Liam left..but was it really his decision? I'm curious what happened. Are you being serious? It's as clear as day as to what happened. So she said "Liam left" and you think that he was forced out? Yeah that makes a lot of sense. That's why she didn't know about it until after the event. Come on man, think. Clearly what's happened is that Liam is being a selfish pr*ck again and making decisions without thinking about the consequences on other people. Either he thinks an Oasis reunion is around the corner, which is just stupid, or he thinks he can make it as a 'musician' without the help of Gem and Andy, which is even more stupid. Either way, Liam's actions are self-serving as always. I have little sympathy for his failing career. Yes I was serious. Maybe they had a fight and that's why he left. No one said he was forced, that's what you make of it. Clearly you know exactly what has happened and why, because man, do you think!
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 14:29:31 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but that's not how a band of supposedly equals works. It isn't? Sorry, havn't read the manual of how a band of supposedly equals works. So how does it work? He should have gone on without wanting to any longer, obviously? That does not even deserve an answer. No manual needed, just common sense, which seems to be lacking around here. Either Liam was an utter tit and simply walked away from the band with no discussion, in which case the moronic tweet was fitting of his actions. Or, he wanted to leave, sat down with his 'friends' and discussed his intentions to leave. They then release a proper statement to say that they had discussed it and decided to call it quits. This way is the proper way to do it because it doesn't make your friends look like utter rejects. This isn't Noel walking away from Oasis - the members of BDI were meant to be equals. There are so many media outlets that this could have been done through, yet you think that Liam's personal twitter account is the best one. Right...
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Post by joladella on Nov 2, 2014 14:33:27 GMT -5
No manual needed, just common sense, which seems to be lacking around here. Thank god then that this forum has you.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2014 14:38:36 GMT -5
No manual needed, just common sense, which seems to be lacking around here. Thank god then that this forum has you. Yes common sense!! Its not conjecture and you can't have opinions if its different to theirs, they are obv correct in their thinking about something they don't actually know any facts about.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 14:39:00 GMT -5
Talk about twisted logic. No official statement was released because Liam went ahead and did it himself! So you think Liam was sitting at home checking the BDI website thinking "where is that official announcement? Dammit, I can't wait any longer, I'll just do it myself because the world needs to know RIGHT NOW". No, just no. One thing that is probably true though, is that Liam released the tweet at a very strategic moment. It's absolutely no coincidence that he made the tweet just as Noel's second album is building momentum. So how is does this benefit Liam at all on the back of noels announcement?? Liams tweets always generate interest at any point in time, I'm sure he didn't split up BDI for a bit off attention. Im pretty sure he could go to any mag/website and even tv show if he craved attention that badly but like the last year he's keeping a low profile. My point is that a week on the "band" have still not said anything normally when an individual says something / leaks something 'the band' would still release a statement still etc. We still have nothing so how do we not know this wasn't decided 3 weeks ago (except from a tweet from Gems wife personal twitter, is she the bands 100% truthful spokesman now?) and as nothings come of it no "band" announcement so he did it himself? You can't blame him for the "band" not announcing anything This is exactly the point! Why is Liam trying to generate interest in his own twitter account/himself if it was the band's decision to call it quits? Because it if was a joint decision, then it should released as a statement to show that it was in fact a joint decision. If Liam simply had enough and walked away, then I see why he would release it on his twitter. Which has been my point all along. The way that this situation has been handled points directly towards Liam walking away from the band and not in an amicable split. Hence why Lou said "Liam left".
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2014 14:44:24 GMT -5
So how is does this benefit Liam at all on the back of noels announcement?? Liams tweets always generate interest at any point in time, I'm sure he didn't split up BDI for a bit off attention. Im pretty sure he could go to any mag/website and even tv show if he craved attention that badly but like the last year he's keeping a low profile. My point is that a week on the "band" have still not said anything normally when an individual says something / leaks something 'the band' would still release a statement still etc. We still have nothing so how do we not know this wasn't decided 3 weeks ago (except from a tweet from Gems wife personal twitter, is she the bands 100% truthful spokesman now?) and as nothings come of it no "band" announcement so he did it himself? You can't blame him for the "band" not announcing anything This is exactly the point! Why is Liam trying to generate interest in his own twitter account/himself if it was the band's decision to call it quits? Because it if was a joint decision, then it should released as a statement to show that it was in fact a joint decision. If Liam simply had enough and walked away, then I see why he would release it on his twitter. Which has been my point all along. The way that this situation has been handled points directly towards Liam walking away from the band and not in an amicable split. Hence why Lou say "Liam left". but if you are going by official truth BDI spokesman Lou she said she only found out the day before then he didn't just walk away obv there had been interactions between the band and thus "the band" could've released a statement?
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 14:51:46 GMT -5
This is exactly the point! Why is Liam trying to generate interest in his own twitter account/himself if it was the band's decision to call it quits? Because it if was a joint decision, then it should released as a statement to show that it was in fact a joint decision. If Liam simply had enough and walked away, then I see why he would release it on his twitter. Which has been my point all along. The way that this situation has been handled points directly towards Liam walking away from the band and not in an amicable split. Hence why Lou say "Liam left". but if you are going by official truth BDI spokesman Lou she said she only found out the day before then he didn't just walk away obv there had been interactions between the band and thus "the band" could've released a statement? It depends on the interactions between Liam and the others. It could've been a text message from Liam saying he's leaving or through his manager. Who knows. But if the interaction you're talking about is that they sat down together and discussed the situation, then I'd be very surprised if the best way they could think of for announcing it was through Liam's twitter.
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Post by LlAM on Nov 2, 2014 14:53:09 GMT -5
This is exactly the point! Why is Liam trying to generate interest in his own twitter account/himself if it was the band's decision to call it quits? Because it if was a joint decision, then it should released as a statement to show that it was in fact a joint decision. If Liam simply had enough and walked away, then I see why he would release it on his twitter. Which has been my point all along. The way that this situation has been handled points directly towards Liam walking away from the band and not in an amicable split. Hence why Lou say "Liam left". but if you are going by official truth BDI spokesman Lou she said she only found out the day before then he didn't just walk away obv there had been interactions between the band and thus "the band" could've released a statement? The fact that this discussion even exists proves that there should've been an official statement explaining the matters. If the media picks up on any of this they'll paint an even bleaker picture of Liam. Was it unprofessional to announce that "bdi are no more" on his personal twitter? Yes it was.
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Post by leak4ever on Nov 2, 2014 14:56:34 GMT -5
but if you are going by official truth BDI spokesman Lou she said she only found out the day before then he didn't just walk away obv there had been interactions between the band and thus "the band" could've released a statement? The fact that this discussion even exists proves that there should've been an official statement explaining the matters. If the media picks up on any of this they'll paint an even bleaker picture of Liam. Was it unprofessional to announce that "bdi are no more" on his personal twitter? Yes it was. Thank you. Even though you're a Liam supporter, you can see that mistakes were made here.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 2, 2014 14:57:19 GMT -5
OFFICIAL BEADY EYE STATEMENT:
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 2, 2014 15:00:35 GMT -5
but if you are going by official truth BDI spokesman Lou she said she only found out the day before then he didn't just walk away obv there had been interactions between the band and thus "the band" could've released a statement? It depends on the interactions between Liam and the others. It could've been a text message from Liam saying he's leaving or through his manager. Who knows. But if the interaction you're talking about is that they sat down together and discussed the situation, then I'd be very surprised if the best way they could think of for announcing it was through Liam's twitter. It could be anything it could be that Gem didn't tell her for 2 weeks (you do know men lie to their wives etc?) but the point is you dont know, so while we can guess / predict / speculate its not a subject thats cut and dry to be saying people don't have common sense. Using 'a wife' as a reference point?! She's gonna be the most biased person ever whether it was amicable split or liam just leaving being a cock (which I'm not saying didn't happen btw) Like i said its shit there wasn't an announcment and regardless who announced it a"band" statement wouldve been nice as an epilogue, and i do love gem but when he knows he has fans on his twitter he couldn't do even a tweet a big shame.
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