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Post by jaq515 on Oct 26, 2014 22:38:46 GMT -5
Nah, I view you more like the kid from Never Ending Story. Holy crap, it was exactly like that - except I was being chased by piss drenched, parka wearing, Liam lookalikes. We're still colossal..I mean mad for it
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 22:49:28 GMT -5
Holy crap, it was exactly like that - except I was being chased by piss drenched, parka wearing, Liam lookalikes. We're still colossal..I mean mad for it
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 26, 2014 22:58:57 GMT -5
We're still colossal..I mean mad for it
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 23:06:37 GMT -5
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Post by ETrilk on Oct 26, 2014 23:12:18 GMT -5
The Americans that do know him and of course people from other countries don't generally think positively of him. At least, that's been my experience away from these forums. Most Americans 30 years old or above think of him as an arrogant asshole. Most people younger than that don't really know him outside Wonderwall on a classic rock station. Listen I love Liam but let's be honest, he was a jerk to a lot of people on the way up, especially in America. People put up with it then because he was 23 and Oasis had great songs. Once that stopped, the backlash started. I'm glad you said "most Americans 30 years old or above", because I'm 33 and American, and Liam has been my hero since I heard "Live Forever". I wanted nothing more than to be Liam Gallagher from the time I was 13 years old. And if Americans that had any interest in the band and that paid attention the the group over the past 20 years would have seen that Liam is a genuinely great guy. I wish him nothing but the best, and I have no doubt that, although Liam may never win over America in the future, he will do great things... as well as the fact that he doesn't give a shit about "winning over America". Liam Gallagher fully understands that there are great fans of his in this country and he has shown it every time he has come to the US and played his music. And the next time he chooses to do so, I'll be fucking front row.
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 26, 2014 23:19:08 GMT -5
Most Americans 30 years old or above think of him as an arrogant asshole. Most people younger than that don't really know him outside Wonderwall on a classic rock station. Listen I love Liam but let's be honest, he was a jerk to a lot of people on the way up, especially in America. People put up with it then because he was 23 and Oasis had great songs. Once that stopped, the backlash started. I'm glad you said "most Americans 30 years old or above", because I'm 33 and American, and Liam has been my hero since I heard "Live Forever". I wanted nothing more than to be Liam Gallagher from the time I was 13 years old. And if Americans that had any interest in the band and that paid attention the the group over the past 20 years would have seen that Liam is a genuinely great guy. I wish him nothing but the best, and I have no doubt that, although Liam may never win over America in the future, he will do great things... as well as the fact that he doesn't give a shit about "winning over America". Liam Gallagher fully understands that there are great fans of his in this country and he has shown it every time he has come to the US and played his music. And the next time he chooses to do so, I'll be fucking front row. Out of curiosity, what makes Liam a great guy exactly? He's great at wrecking relationships and creating single parent children, but I guess that's not what you mean.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 26, 2014 23:22:34 GMT -5
I'm glad you said "most Americans 30 years old or above", because I'm 33 and American, and Liam has been my hero since I heard "Live Forever". I wanted nothing more than to be Liam Gallagher from the time I was 13 years old. And if Americans that had any interest in the band and that paid attention the the group over the past 20 years would have seen that Liam is a genuinely great guy. I wish him nothing but the best, and I have no doubt that, although Liam may never win over America in the future, he will do great things... as well as the fact that he doesn't give a shit about "winning over America". Liam Gallagher fully understands that there are great fans of his in this country and he has shown it every time he has come to the US and played his music. And the next time he chooses to do so, I'll be fucking front row. Out of curiosity, what makes Liam a great guy exactly? I have no idea if Liam or Noel are great guys off the stage. I only admire them these days as musicians.
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 26, 2014 23:25:26 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what makes Liam a great guy exactly? I have no idea if Liam or Noel are great guys off the stage. I only admire them these days as musicians. I admire both as musicians and performers but Liam is a horrid human being by many accounts.
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Post by ETrilk on Oct 26, 2014 23:27:43 GMT -5
Every time I've seen him live (six times), he's a consummate performer that seems happy that he's there. More importantly, when I saw him with Beady Eye in Chicago at the Metro he seemed genuinely thrilled at the history of the venue for his previous band. The first time I saw Oasis in Milwaukee, he gave me and my buddy a handshake and nice greeting and I had numerous people tell me that he was cordial after the Beady Eye gig. I would love to meet him and say thanks. If I had a personal story of his cordial greeting I would love to share it, unfortunately I don't. Yes, he's had extra-martial affairs and all, and if we're discussing his home life, he may not be a "great guy", but I appreciate his mark left on music and the mark he left on a guy from Iowa who listened to nothing but American alternative music at the time.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 26, 2014 23:44:59 GMT -5
Most Americans 30 years old or above think of him as an arrogant asshole. Most people younger than that don't really know him outside Wonderwall on a classic rock station. Listen I love Liam but let's be honest, he was a jerk to a lot of people on the way up, especially in America. People put up with it then because he was 23 and Oasis had great songs. Once that stopped, the backlash started. I'm glad you said "most Americans 30 years old or above", because I'm 33 and American, and Liam has been my hero since I heard "Live Forever". I wanted nothing more than to be Liam Gallagher from the time I was 13 years old. And if Americans that had any interest in the band and that paid attention the the group over the past 20 years would have seen that Liam is a genuinely great guy. I wish him nothing but the best, and I have no doubt that, although Liam may never win over America in the future, he will do great things... as well as the fact that he doesn't give a shit about "winning over America". Liam Gallagher fully understands that there are great fans of his in this country and he has shown it every time he has come to the US and played his music. And the next time he chooses to do so, I'll be fucking front row. Good point. Something I failed to mention in my post, the tabloids really made it a point to defame his character. To take things way out of context and blow up minor incidents. Most fan encounters seem to suggest that Liam is genuinely a good guy. And there's good interviews with him too.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 27, 2014 0:02:35 GMT -5
Liam is great to his fans, there's no doubt about that. You don't have to attack Liam the man when talking about the music.
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 27, 2014 0:07:23 GMT -5
Liam is great to his fans, there's no doubt about that. You don't have to attack Liam the man when talking about the music. Surely 'Liam the man' has played a large part in the demise of Beady Eye.
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 27, 2014 0:09:47 GMT -5
Every time I've seen him live (six times), he's a consummate performer that seems happy that he's there. More importantly, when I saw him with Beady Eye in Chicago at the Metro he seemed genuinely thrilled at the history of the venue for his previous band. The first time I saw Oasis in Milwaukee, he gave me and my buddy a handshake and nice greeting and I had numerous people tell me that he was cordial after the Beady Eye gig. I would love to meet him and say thanks. If I had a personal story of his cordial greeting I would love to share it, unfortunately I don't. Yes, he's had extra-martial affairs and all, and if we're discussing his home life, he may not be a "great guy", but I appreciate his mark left on music and the mark he left on a guy from Iowa who listened to nothing but American alternative music at the time. You shook hands with him which is pretty cool. Can see why you respect him more than people like myself. Problem is though, most people haven't shaken his hand before so probably think he's just an arse.
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Post by Manualex on Oct 27, 2014 1:16:42 GMT -5
I feel like the monopoly man at the moment.... I don't even see why you bother. it's all the same argument over and over....it's petty and nit-picky. and you yourself, have let your feelings and opinions be known more than a few times. fuck it, if people like it, great. you aren't gonna change their opinion. i advise everyone to live your lives and enjoy it. life really is short, and can be better spent than arguing about things that don't really matter on the internet all day. God bless. Like that supersmash hit in the most sold debut album of all time said: "Life's too short, not to forgive. You can carry regrets but they won't let you live, I'm here if you want to call."
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 27, 2014 2:52:44 GMT -5
If it's any indication of how little people care about Beady Eye, www.live4ever.uk.com hasn't even reported the news of their split yet.
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Post by CF83 on Oct 27, 2014 3:52:58 GMT -5
[/quote] I was never really a BE fan but best of luck to the band members in the future. Hopefully we see a Reunion between Liam, Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan White for a live tour.[/quote]
Is this serious? Obviously it never would, but it completely puzzles me why anybody would want this to happen??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 4:05:41 GMT -5
Wow, a 20 page thread in less than two days and I think I've only contributed to it once!
It seems like I'm the only one who is not at all surprised or even bothered by this? They were basically broken up anyway, just a side project to keep them busy till the inevitable Oasis reunion. I never really liked their music in truth and they were never going to make it in today's industry. BE should have been a great album, the ideas were there but the songs were not and after all the anticipation the disappointment killed them off. How could they possibly hype up a third album now? Nobody would be interested, there is no third chance in the music industry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 4:09:11 GMT -5
There's a lot of Team Noel guys and a lot of Team Liam guys on here. I'm Team Oasis personally.
Live Forever.
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Post by shinealight on Oct 27, 2014 4:39:11 GMT -5
Out of the blue.... don' t know what to think.
Kinda wish all them are on good terms and agree with someones post, this is the funeral of Oasis. Would be too many split ups to get it back together.
Liam might find it difficult to work with other people (when considering a solo) as he has to have great songwriters around him. Can t imagine him singing a tune written by some pub musician....and there are not too of them Liam would have respect for. TBH I can' t still imagine him going solo....Liam was always for the band, the boys etc...when I Imagine an artwork with Liam Gallagher...it is not rock n roll anymore. There does not exist such a thing as a rock n roll solo artists.
Now take your burger and go to O2 to see Noel with other middle age population when most of then would wait for supersonic and other oasis classics. Gosh...
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Post by cigsandalc on Oct 27, 2014 5:19:55 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Liam already has a plan. Otherwise he wouldn't have split up the Band. Maybe nothing definite but i'm sure he knows what he's doing and he'll do it right because he wants/needs the succes. Also I don't think he's going to stop making music, let's face it that's his life. Of course he does have PG but that's something totally different. First thing would be the gig with The Who, maybe he wrote some stuff already, maybe he's in touch with some other musicians/songwriters already and is working on something. Maybe, i know a few people don't like that idea or think it's not possible, Liam already spoke to Noel about Oasis and a "reunion" in whatever way will happen sooner than anyone thought. Whatever it'll be we'll see him back sooner or later. If he would still be together with Nicole i would even consider a duet of the two
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Post by 0as1s on Oct 27, 2014 5:27:17 GMT -5
It's a shame but not entirely unexpected. I remember posting around the time that Shine a Light was released that everything just seemed to be a bit aimless, almost resigned to failure. That was a single release just for the sake of it.
In an ideal world, I hope Liam goes on to do something on his own. I know he likes the comfort of being in a band but he's still a massive name in Rock n Roll, if he was to take a couple of years to write the basis of a dozen or so tunes, then have some guests come on board to help him finish them off, he could easily come up with something respectable and then he could go from there. He should look at Ian Brown as inspiration, when the Stone Roses split, most people thought John Squire would go on to be the more successful of the two but Brown just kept on going, his Greatest Hits album is a brilliant listen.
In terms of Beady Eye as a whole, I personally thought they were ok. There are some cracking tunes in there along with some absolute drivel. My best of would be something like:
1. Flick of the Finger 2. Soul Love 3. Face the Crowd (yeah I know, but I think it's a fun track and great live) 4. The Roller 5. Millionaire 6. Soon Come Tomorrow 7. Four Letter Word 8. Evil Eye 9. Don't Brother Me (it's cheesy but I think there's a genuine melody in there somewhere) 10. Start Anew
Good luck to all the band members, I hope they go on to be successful in the future.
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2014 6:45:56 GMT -5
Wow, a 20 page thread in less than two days and I think I've only contributed to it once! It seems like I'm the only one who is not at all surprised or even bothered by this? They were basically broken up anyway, just a side project to keep them busy till the inevitable Oasis reunion. I never really liked their music in truth and they were never going to make it in today's industry. BE should have been a great album, the ideas were there but the songs were not and after all the anticipation the disappointment killed them off. How could they possibly hype up a third album now? Nobody would be interested, there is no third chance in the music industry. I think this has been pre-meditated to coincide with an Oasis reunion to be honest. If Beady Eye were planning a new album, they'd have to tour after Noel's done with the second album and that would push a reunion further down the line. Both brothers are back on good terms (which I think everyone would agree is great) so they'll have discussed it. Liam realises that a third Beady Eye album would take too much time to tour and record so is just biding his time to allow Noel to do his thing. Noel probably knows it already - I'd like to think Liam takes the time out to sort his private life out, prepare and get match fit for the reunion - I'm sure Noel would set the requirements of what he expects from Liam anyway. Basically shape up or forget about it. And no more plums. I've always believed that this will happen. Think of the album cycle - Noel releases next year and tours it for around about a year. So after that, he'll want a break. That leaves him with 2016 with a year to do nothing - as he always takes a year off. So hence the first time since the Oasis split that neither party has anything planned. So he'll want to take 2016 off - I'll say an announcement of a reunion in October 2016, with some shows scheduled for summer 2017. Though it could be a year earlier if Noel decides to keep the touring light for the new album. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!! I've always been against a reunion for reasons that many discuss on here (fear the old routine of average albums with going through the motions tours), but kalas made a good point about a reunion from a 'one last dance with an old highschool sweetheart' point of view - I thought that was an excellent analogy, and if a reunion could reinvigorate the band and motivate Liam to be more professional, it would be a fitting send off to one that fans didn't get - and from that point of view, it's really difficult to argue. If it was a one off kind of thing, it would stick more in the minds of fans too. So I can see it from that point of view, though I wouldn't want it to hinder Noel creatively, who seems to be in a purple patch at the moment - I think everyone would love it like the old days when Noel wrote an entire album (I'd be willing to let Liam write at least 1-2 tunes) and Liam sang the majority of songs. That is the REAL Oasis for me
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 27, 2014 6:56:58 GMT -5
There's a lot of Team Noel guys and a lot of Team Liam guys on here. I'm Team Oasis personally. Live Forever. There was a band I, we really love called Oasis. They were/are/will be one of my life time bands. There would have been no Oasis without Noel, there would have been no Oasis without Liam. To me it's stupid and childish to "team up". Like I said in this thread a couple of days ago, I wish the very of best to Liam, Gem, Andy and Chris for whatever they're gonna do next and I'll keep support them as much as I support Noel whatever they will do like I always have done.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 27, 2014 7:30:42 GMT -5
If Beady Eye has anymore ammo left on their belt, they should just release it as a free download on their website. Unreleased tunes, demos, covers, instrumentals, whatever. Empty the tank.
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Post by jordan71421 on Oct 27, 2014 7:31:43 GMT -5
I showed my girlfriend, who isn't really into any of the music I am, Flick of the Finger and Soon Come Tomorrow and she was genuinely blown away. She wanted me to play them over and over and it was really cool to get an outside perspective
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