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Post by globe on Nov 5, 2014 8:45:59 GMT -5
I bet the bonus stuff includes the tracks that were included in that BBC documentary that was on just before BHN was released - Stand By Me, It's Getting Better Man and Be Here Now. These mixed in with one or two early demo's plus some other live tracks from around that time. Doubt much if any of the Mustique tracks will be on it. Hope I'm wrong though.
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Post by carlober on Nov 5, 2014 9:03:34 GMT -5
This guy is the admin from the Oasis/NG official websites. Apparently he hasn't got a clue either...
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Post by themanwithnoname on Nov 5, 2014 9:48:42 GMT -5
Definitely won't be before Christmas by the looks of it.
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Post by Jailbird on Nov 5, 2014 12:22:11 GMT -5
Mid-January
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Post by deadman on Nov 5, 2014 15:05:26 GMT -5
This guy is the admin from the Oasis/NG official websites. Apparently he hasn't got a clue either... I think he knows well to keep his mouth well and truly shut when it comes to revealing stuff like that. Any work he has would go straight down the drain. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 5, 2014 15:10:38 GMT -5
What a bunch of bullshit.
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Post by Praetorian on Nov 5, 2014 16:58:49 GMT -5
It seems that if the Mustique demos are not released with this reissue, then the collector community probably has a good lock down on them and came out with a deal made with Ignition/Noel/etc.
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 5, 2014 17:18:46 GMT -5
It seems that if the Mustique demos are not released with this reissue, then the collector community probably has a good lock down on them and came out with a deal made with Ignition/Noel/etc. That's an interesting idea, maybe like the bob dylan basement tapes that have literally just been released this week. The longer they leave it the more mystery there will be surrounding them. Let's hope we're not waiting 47 years for the complete mustique set! |
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Post by deadman on Nov 5, 2014 17:38:17 GMT -5
It seems that if the Mustique demos are not released with this reissue, then the collector community probably has a good lock down on them and came out with a deal made with Ignition/Noel/etc. Well it's not like the collector community is the source. They still have the masters, Owen Morris said they went through them last year. There's not one single reason why some of those won't be on the reissue. The sooner it's announced, the better, if only to quell some of the unwarranted cynicism, paranoia and suspicion surrounding these. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 5, 2014 18:00:56 GMT -5
It seems that if the Mustique demos are not released with this reissue, then the collector community probably has a good lock down on them and came out with a deal made with Ignition/Noel/etc. Well it's not like the collector community is the source. They still have the masters, Owen Morris said they went through them last year. There's not one single reason why some of those won't be on the reissue. The sooner it's announced, the better, if only to quell some of the unwarranted cynicism, paranoia and suspicion surrounding these. Noel should just release the entire Mystique Demos as a CD. Granted if they are up to high quality standards. If they are dreadful recordings well then screw that idea. |
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Post by Manualex on Nov 5, 2014 23:33:34 GMT -5
Well it's not like the collector community is the source. They still have the masters, Owen Morris said they went through them last year. There's not one single reason why some of those won't be on the reissue. The sooner it's announced, the better, if only to quell some of the unwarranted cynicism, paranoia and suspicion surrounding these. Noel should just release the entire Mystique Demos as a CD. Granted if they are up to high quality standards. If they are dreadful recordings well then screw that idea. Several stuff from the demo sessions are actually on the final version of BHN: Airplane on DYKWIM? Keyboard toy from BHN, the chat( not sure of this) and the slide guitar solo of Johnny Deep on Fade In-Out. So I wouldnt say that it isnt somwthing quite not for the public. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 5, 2014 23:34:33 GMT -5
Noel should just release the entire Mystique Demos as a CD. Granted if they are up to high quality standards. If they are dreadful recordings well then screw that idea. Several stuff from the demo sessions are actually on the final version of BHN: Airplane on DYKWIM? Keyboard toy from BHN, the chat( not sure of this) and the slide guitar solo of Johnny Deep on Fade In-Out. So I wouldnt say that it isnt somwthing quite not for the public.  |
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Post by Manualex on Nov 5, 2014 23:37:00 GMT -5
Several stuff from the demo sessions are actually on the final version of BHN: Airplane on DYKWIM? Keyboard toy from BHN, the chat( not sure of this) and the slide guitar solo of Johnny Deep on Fade In-Out. So I wouldnt say that it isnt somwthing quite not for the public. Also angel child(demo)  who releases a song labeled as a demo and then dont release a proper studio? Laziness perhaps? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 5, 2014 23:42:50 GMT -5
Then unleash the hounds Noel! Also angel child(demo) who releases a song labeled as a demo and then dont release a proper studio? Laziness perhaps? Well I have a theory about that song. I doubt it is from the actual Mystique sessions. Probably a more full recording done in some studio back in England in late 1996, early 1997. It's way too polished up. Remember, some of Noel's demos are better than the actual studio versions. This would go on to plague Oasis between 2001 and 2008. If the Mystique demos all sounded as good as Angel Child, well fucking hell, get'em out there Noel. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 5, 2014 23:52:14 GMT -5
Then unleash the hounds Noel! Also angel child(demo) who releases a song labeled as a demo and then dont release a proper studio? Laziness perhaps? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 6, 2014 2:59:21 GMT -5
Also angel child(demo) who releases a song labeled as a demo and then dont release a proper studio? Laziness perhaps? *cough*StopTheClocks*cough* |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 8:30:17 GMT -5
Who names an album "Houses of The Holy" and then doesn't include the track of that name on that release? *cough*StopTheClocks*cough* Well that's an easy one. That song sucks.  |
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 6, 2014 9:21:11 GMT -5
STC is not bad. just the hype and everything related to that song kinda buried it (did I just quote someone here?)
I think it's a good closer, but it's far from being single material.
it was the best way to close HFB 1. leave it all BEHIND and release the masterpiece next (so I hope)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 9:25:59 GMT -5
STC is not bad. just the hype and everything related to that song kinda buried it (did I just quote someone here?) I think it's a good closer, but it's far from being single material. it was the best way to close HFB 1. leave it all BEHIND and release the masterpiece next (so I hope) A Simple Game of Genius would have made a better HFB closer. Personally I hate the production on STC and that cheesy mellotron sound. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 6, 2014 9:30:29 GMT -5
I like STC as a closer. I think the ending of that song is such a perfect way to close the chapter of HFB1
I agree on it not being the best song. It's not a bad song, but it has gotten so much hype that the end product is just disappointing. But how couldn't it?
Maybe that's what Noel thinks too and maybe that's the reason why he never plays it live?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 9:40:31 GMT -5
I like STC as a closer. I think the ending of that song is such a perfect way to close the chapter of HFB1 I agree on it not being the best song. It's not a bad song, but it has gotten so much hype that the end product is just disappointing. But how couldn't it? Maybe that's what Noel thinks too and maybe that's the reason why he never plays it live? The juice wasn't worth the squeeze. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 6, 2014 10:54:40 GMT -5
Also angel child(demo) who releases a song labeled as a demo and then dont release a proper studio? Laziness perhaps? Well I have a theory about that song. I doubt it is from the actual Mystique sessions. Probably a more full recording done in some studio back in England in late 1996, early 1997. It's way too polished up. Remember, some of Noel's demos are better than the actual studio versions. This would go on to plague Oasis between 2001 and 2008. If the Mystique demos all sounded as good as Angel Child, well fucking hell, get'em out there Noel. By all (ie. Owen Morris') accounts, the Mustique demos were very well produced - this wasn't just Noel playing live with a single recorder on the go. They had an 8-track recorder and had to bounce some more tracks down to make more space. There was backing vocals, percussion, keyboard for strings, guitar overdubs and a drum machine. These should sound very good indeed, which is one of the reasons why the Mustique demos are so keenly sought. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 6, 2014 11:14:22 GMT -5
Here's my guess at the bonus tracklisting for this:
1. My Big Mouth (Knebworth)
2. Be Here Now (BBC)
3. Don't Go Away (Mustique)
4. Fade In Out (Mustique)
5. I Hope, I Think, I Know (Mustique)
6. D'You Know What I Mean (G-Mex)
7. My Sister Lover (Mustique)
8. Stay Young (Mustique)
9. Stand By Me (BBC)
10. It's Getting Better Man (BBC)
11. Going Nowhere (1992/1993)
12. The Fame (Mustique)
13. All Around The World (Remix)
14. Slow (Mustique)
Yeah, I know Owen Morris said Slow wasn't on the Mustique tapes, but he only mentioned 14 songs, and there was talk back in the day of 15 done. We can wish, eh?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2014 11:16:54 GMT -5
Here's my guess at the bonus tracklisting for this: 1. My Big Mouth (Knebworth) 2. Be Here Now (BBC) 3. Don't Go Away (Mustique) 4. Fade In Out (Mustique) 5. I Hope, I Think, I Know (Mustique) 6. D'You Know What I Mean (G-Mex) 7. My Sister Lover (Mustique) 8. Stay Young (Mustique) 9. Stand By Me (BBC) 10. It's Getting Better Man (BBC) 11. Going Nowhere (1992/1993) 12. The Fame (Mustique) 13. All Around The World (Remix) 14. Slow (Mustique) Yeah, I know Owen Morris said Slow wasn't on the Mustique tapes, but he only mentioned 14 songs, and there was talk back in the day of 15 done. We can wish, eh? I'd like to see a live version of "Setting Sun" crash the party on disc 3. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 6, 2014 12:02:42 GMT -5
STC is not bad. just the hype and everything related to that song kinda buried it (did I just quote someone here?) I think it's a good closer, but it's far from being single material. it was the best way to close HFB 1. leave it all BEHIND and release the masterpiece next (so I hope) A Simple Game of Genius would have made a better HFB closer. Personally I hate the production on STC and that cheesy mellotron sound. I thought so back when the album was released. I'd always put ASGOG on the playlist, but I listening back to the record now, I'm happy he finally released it and I think it does fit there. havent listened to ASGOG for a long time.. this song just slipped away for me. and I'd also like an official release of the 11 min. Setting Sun/Fade In Out. I know some fans will feel BETRAYED because it's already available on boots but they should realise the band doesn't owe them anything. they've already got it for FREE so SHUT YER MOANING, yeah. |
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who releases a song labeled as a demo and then dont release a proper studio? Laziness perhaps?
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