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Post by Jim on Nov 2, 2014 16:49:42 GMT -5
I'm hoping if they put a cassette in with the boxset it will have all the Mustique demos on it rather than only a selected few on the rarities disc.
Hopefully an announcement is made soon.
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Post by mrmoonbeam on Nov 2, 2014 18:40:10 GMT -5
before fucking christmas?
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 2, 2014 18:59:22 GMT -5
These mustiques demos sounds like something one milionaire fan will buy one day on an auction for the shitloads of money. We'll be lucky if we hear one song of it. Looking at MG and DM reissues content, not gonna happen.
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Post by Sternumman on Nov 2, 2014 19:48:40 GMT -5
Yeah having only released three singles really does limit disc 2. Even if you count Don't Go Away, none of the stuff on there is new or BHN material (I was surprised Fade Away didn't make the MG set though so maybe they'll stick that on there) Anyone expecting an anthology or anything next year on the back of all this? Wasn't Helter Skelter written as a B side during the BHN period, but didn't get released due to the lack of a 4th UK single (I remember reading Noel couldn't be arsed to write any more original material for more B sides at this point), so the song was shelved and released as a B side for SOTSOG...?
If so, could this be included on the disc.....?
Im pretty sure McCartney wrote it for the White album. Going Nowhere should have been in place of Magic Pie, MP is horredous, at that year he even claimed that it was one of the bes songs he ever wrote, just to see how out of his head he was at the time. I actually really like Magic Pie. It was really different for them at the time. I even quoted it as my high school yearbook quote (Class of 2000).  An extraordinary guy
Can never have an ordinary day....I like MP too. The shoes line is dumb but Ive always loved the outro. Never cared for Going Nowhere. Besides the Swamp Song it's the only song I regularly skip on the Masterplan. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 2, 2014 19:57:00 GMT -5
These mustiques demos sounds like something one milionaire fan will buy one day on an auction for the shitloads of money. We'll be lucky if we hear one song of it. Looking at MG and DM reissues content, not gonna happen. Come on, we've had 5+ demos on each of the previous two reissues. And the Oasis camp have consistently released demos going back as far as Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants. They know we like hearing demos, so as long as there's no technical issues with the original tapes, we'll be getting a bunch on the BHN reissue. We've already heard from Owen Morris that the original Mustique tapes were dug out for reference last year so we know they are being considered for release. So there's really no excuse for not hearing half a dozen of these on the BHN reissue. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 2, 2014 20:03:48 GMT -5
Was it mentioned anywhere that there's supposedly a really early demo of Going Nowhere that Mark Coyle has, from around the time of those other demos already released? Expect to see that on the reissue if the tape still exists.
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Post by beentherenow on Nov 3, 2014 11:47:32 GMT -5
If the previous timings are anything to go by then we should hear about the details very soon, either this week or the next,
However that also would mean a late Jan/February release date, which a) makes no sense b)is irritating and c) is really close to Noel's albums
There's no reason why they can't release the details this week for a mid December launch just for the Xmas sales however given how mismanaged this project has been so far I think it'll be after Xmas
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Nov 3, 2014 14:13:57 GMT -5
This album won't come out before Christmas... it is the least popular of the three so it would not make any sense to release it with the Christmas market in mind. Had the other two not been released yet, it would make perfect sense.
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Post by spud on Nov 3, 2014 15:37:19 GMT -5
...So there's really no excuse for not hearing half a dozen of these on the BHN reissue. No chance. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 3, 2014 15:53:58 GMT -5
...So there's really no excuse for not hearing half a dozen of these on the BHN reissue. No chance. Why? I really don't understand the widespread cynicism regarding this. |
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Post by beentherenow on Nov 3, 2014 16:23:46 GMT -5
This album won't come out before Christmas... it is the least popular of the three so it would not make any sense to release it with the Christmas market in mind. Had the other two not been released yet, it would make perfect sense. It was undoubtedly the least popular of the three however I think it's an outside bet to finish higher than the other two rereleases in the UK charts The only people buying these releases are us hardcore fans and I'd argue that since this project was first announced 90% of people were more excited about the BHN 3 disk set as we simply do not know what it will have on it. Also to hear BHN remastered is far more interesting than DM or MG which didn't need it I have Oasis collectibles from all corners of the globe but I haven't even purchased either of the rereleases so far because the tracks offered haven't interested me however it'd take a momental fuck up for me not to buy this one |
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Post by asimarx on Nov 3, 2014 16:25:37 GMT -5
Why? I really don't understand the widespread cynicism regarding this. Agreed. Like Jim suggested, I guess and hope there'll be a cassette extra with the complete session, similar to the Live Demonstration replica. I also don't think, and this might not be a popular opinion, that they held back anything majorly important in terms of demos from the reissues so far (the expections being the SMS and Live Forever that are already out there). There very probably just isn't anything better or releaseworthy in the vaults, especially in the unlabelee chaos that seems to be the tape collection of Mark Coyle, on whom we were depending on regarding the bonus stuff for the first two reissues. Seemingly, they are following a certain concept for the "disc threes" and I'm sure Noel was involved in so far as to avoid any inferior demos from before Liverpool 1993 getting released. So far, we also figured out why the Lock All The Doors/Comin' On Strong demos weren't released. I think we really got all excisting MG demos with the reissue. OF course we know about the existence of "Wishing Stone" for example (early version of Wonderwall, dating back to 1993). But perhaps it was just never demoed, hence it was never mentioned in his Notebook. Owen Morris also stated that all he heard of Morning Glory, before enterig the studio, was Hello, She's Electric and odd bits of Morning Glory during the SMS session, if I remember right. |
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Post by asimarx on Nov 3, 2014 16:42:44 GMT -5
Also, I've been eagerly awaiting the leak or release of anything Mustique related for almost 15 years. Collecting and thankfully enjoying any tiny bit of info we've got, even the fake tracklistings. Those Rough mixes that were leaked and posted in this thread are rubbish compared to what these demos are supposed to sound like. I'm pretty sure those won't get released anyway, since they're just badly monitor mixes with Noel's scratch vocals.
However, if they're gonna miss the chance to get all of Mustique out this time, nevermind completely leaving it off, I'm prepared to travel to London, invade Ignition's office and riot. RIOT.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 3, 2014 17:06:58 GMT -5
Also, I've been eagerly awaiting the leak or release of anything Mustique related for almost 15 years. Collecting and thankfully enjoying any tiny bit of info we've got, even the fake tracklistings. Those Rough mixes that were leaked and posted in this thread are rubbish compared to what these demos are supposed to sound like. I'm pretty sure those won't get released anyway, since they're just badly monitor mixes with Noel's scratch vocals. However, if they're gonna miss the chance to get all of Mustique out this time, nevermind completely leaving it off, I'm prepared to travel to London, invade Ignition's office and riot. RIOT. There is better quality versions of those rough mixes out there as the clips that were posted show. My main problem with the Mustique demo's is that i'm not that bothered about a full set of Noel sung tracks at least the others have Liam singing to. I think there is little in the vaults but I think one day they might do a double disc of all the unreleased stuff across there career. They certainly won't stop milking people so they will have a few bits and bobs left. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 3, 2014 17:28:24 GMT -5
Also, I've been eagerly awaiting the leak or release of anything Mustique related for almost 15 years. Collecting and thankfully enjoying any tiny bit of info we've got, even the fake tracklistings. Those Rough mixes that were leaked and posted in this thread are rubbish compared to what these demos are supposed to sound like. I'm pretty sure those won't get released anyway, since they're just badly monitor mixes with Noel's scratch vocals. However, if they're gonna miss the chance to get all of Mustique out this time, nevermind completely leaving it off, I'm prepared to travel to London, invade Ignition's office and riot. RIOT. I'd be amazed if the full Mustique sessions are released, as there's a minimum of 13 songs there, 12 if you take out Angel Child, which will be on Disc 2. Unlike you, I do think they are holding things back and I think some of the Mustique tracks will be saved for another day. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 3, 2014 17:43:17 GMT -5
I wonder if they'd be kind enough to put that Boardwalk rehearsal of All Around The World on their YouTube page to tie in with the BHN rehearsal? I don't think the audio fidelity is good enough for this set of reissues, and there's not like there's not a wealth of alternative material to use. And I can't see where it would be used even for DVD bonus content at any time, so I think YouTube would be the ideal outlet for it.
I also wonder if they've made any new mixes, or used an early/rough mix, of any of the final album tracks. There's been the odd murmur over the years about doing a remix of the album to make it a bit less fat and bloated. Noel seemed keen on the idea a decade or so back, but seemed to cool to the idea as the years went on and he got to terms with the sound of the record. Nevertheless, I wonder if they might use one or two tracks maybe to test the water with fans reactions.
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Post by asimarx on Nov 3, 2014 17:44:38 GMT -5
Also, I've been eagerly awaiting the leak or release of anything Mustique related for almost 15 years. Collecting and thankfully enjoying any tiny bit of info we've got, even the fake tracklistings. Those Rough mixes that were leaked and posted in this thread are rubbish compared to what these demos are supposed to sound like. I'm pretty sure those won't get released anyway, since they're just badly monitor mixes with Noel's scratch vocals. However, if they're gonna miss the chance to get all of Mustique out this time, nevermind completely leaving it off, I'm prepared to travel to London, invade Ignition's office and riot. RIOT. I'd be amazed if the full Mustique sessions are released, as there's a minimum of 13 songs there, 12 if you take out Angel Child, which will be on Disc 2. Unlike you, I do think they are holding things back and I think some of the Mustique tracks will be saved for another day. We'll see. There'll surely be an announcement within the next couple of weeks. To say that I'm curious about how the tracklisting will look like is quite an understatement. I'm also not confident anymore that a christmas release date looks realistic. Anyway I'm sure it's on its way, seeing that Noel specifically mentioned "flogging the dead horse" of Oasis reissues before Chasing Yesterday gets released. On a side note, I'm surely not going to "riot" in the Ignition office in any way if they'd decide to not release all or any of the Mustique demos. You've got to be careful with your remarks on the interweb these days. ;-) But I'd still be majorly disappointed. |
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Post by deadman on Nov 3, 2014 18:00:20 GMT -5
Maybe they're now going to an early January release to capitalise on the January sales. But I still don't know what the hell they were playing at - as soon as Noel's album was completed (ahead of schedule as we now know), the Oasis reissues should have been immediately postponed. A late-2015 date for Morning Glory made more sense anyway to tie in with the 20th anniversary, with Knebworth in 2016 and Be Here Now in 2017. I don't know what the rush was to get them all out in 2014. Noel's album being on hold for 9 months is just plain daft.
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Post by mossy on Nov 3, 2014 18:25:10 GMT -5
I'd be amazed if the full Mustique sessions are released, as there's a minimum of 13 songs there, 12 if you take out Angel Child, which will be on Disc 2. Unlike you, I do think they are holding things back and I think some of the Mustique tracks will be saved for another day. We'll see. There'll surely be an announcement within the next couple of weeks. To say that I'm curious about how the tracklisting will look like is quite an understatement. I'm also not confident anymore that a christmas release date looks realistic. Anyway I'm sure it's on its way, seeing that Noel specifically mentioned "flogging the dead horse" of Oasis reissues before Chasing Yesterday gets released. On a side note, I'm surely not going to "riot" in the Ignition office in any way if they'd decide to not release all or any of the Mustique demos. You've got to be careful with your remarks on the interweb these days. ;-) But I'd still be majorly disappointed. There's going to be a riot in my pants when this album comes out. |
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Post by asimarx on Nov 3, 2014 18:46:27 GMT -5
We'll see. There'll surely be an announcement within the next couple of weeks. To say that I'm curious about how the tracklisting will look like is quite an understatement. I'm also not confident anymore that a christmas release date looks realistic. Anyway I'm sure it's on its way, seeing that Noel specifically mentioned "flogging the dead horse" of Oasis reissues before Chasing Yesterday gets released. On a side note, I'm surely not going to "riot" in the Ignition office in any way if they'd decide to not release all or any of the Mustique demos. You've got to be careful with your remarks on the interweb these days. ;-) But I'd still be majorly disappointed. There's going to be a riot in my pants when this album comes out. Just hope your riot will be less massive than the bonus material. Looks promising. |
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Post by gretschdrummer1000 on Nov 3, 2014 19:34:09 GMT -5
If they announced it in this or next week, I could maybe see them sneaking it in at the end of December, but given they haven't teased any BHN era images, we're probably looking at a mid January-February release.
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Post by asimarx on Nov 3, 2014 19:51:11 GMT -5
If they announced it in this or next week, I could maybe see them sneaking it in at the end of December, but given they haven't teased any BHN era images, we're probably looking at a mid January-February release. Yeah, they used to tease us with era related pictures and quotes long before the Morning Glory reissue was announced on all social media. Apart from this, that Jill Furmanovsky airport waiting lounge picture from the Be Here Now era that they've shared months ago, probably mistaken by the promotional responsibles as being Morning Glory era, there hasn't been any hint on a forthcoming announcement. |
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Post by mossy on Nov 4, 2014 8:12:03 GMT -5
Just hope your riot will be less massive than the bonus material. Looks promising. Sorry to disappoint you but it's definitely going to be less massive than what's in my pants. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 10:32:51 GMT -5
It will be announced this week. You heard it here first.
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 5, 2014 7:27:23 GMT -5
I would guess that if we don't get an announcement by the 17th of November we probably won't get it before christmas. An announcement on the 17th of November would allow for 3 weeks of preorders before a December the 8th release date, this would allow for 2 and half weeks of Christmas sales once released. I don't think we should give up hope of listening to the mustique demos over Christmas dinner just yet  |
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