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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 12:26:17 GMT -5
"you can choose whether to pin it on your wall or wear it in your locket"
what kind of nutcase is walking around wearing Liam gallaghers hair around their neck? might as well eat it and go full out.
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 12, 2016 12:28:49 GMT -5
"you can choose whether to pin it on your wall or wear it in your locket" what kind of nutcase is walking around wearing Liam gallaghers hair around their neck? might as well eat it and go full out. Me. Just kidding, oasisdna does. Don't forget Liam wears John Lennon's Talisman. Naked. (Probably) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 12:34:13 GMT -5
"you can choose whether to pin it on your wall or wear it in your locket" what kind of nutcase is walking around wearing Liam gallaghers hair around their neck? might as well eat it and go full out. Me. Just kidding, oasisdna does. Don't forget Liam wears John Lennon's Talisman. Naked. (Probably) Im sure the guy that was going through his bins with a crutch found some better stuff. |
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Post by glider on Feb 12, 2016 12:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by oasisdna on Feb 12, 2016 13:19:46 GMT -5
In total honesty I don't know, I'll have to give it a thorough listening. I will certainly let you know as I came across the cd last night while attempting to organize my items. Stay tuned. M |
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Post by jakob61907 on Feb 12, 2016 22:09:25 GMT -5
oasisdna Hey thanks for everything!! It may have been mentioned earlier I just can't see it but do you have any idea on when the reissue will be? When will we actually hear all this?
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Post by oasisdna on Feb 12, 2016 23:34:14 GMT -5
oasisdna Hey thanks for everything!! It may have been mentioned earlier I just can't see it but do you have any idea on when the reissue will be? When will we actually hear all this? I'm not sure there is a specific date...end of the year is just a guess, at best. |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Feb 13, 2016 3:31:52 GMT -5
BHN? what is it?
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 13, 2016 3:57:17 GMT -5
The greatest album of all time. |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Feb 13, 2016 5:20:35 GMT -5
The greatest album of all time. better than one direction? |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 13, 2016 5:22:50 GMT -5
The greatest album of all time. better than one direction? Not quite, but definitely better than Jason Donovan |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Feb 13, 2016 5:48:36 GMT -5
better than one direction? Not quite, but definitely better than Jason Donovan I see. One Direction is a best music group of all the time. |
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Post by carlober on Feb 13, 2016 17:26:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the info oasisdna , I didn't know the demos actually had electric guitars on them. I always thought they were acoustic with a drum machine that Owen Morris programmed. I know it's probably hard to tell, but on Fade In-Out is there the slide guitar? I wonder if Johnny Depp actually played it on the demo since he was there at the time. Fade in out is just an acoustic drop-D tuned guitar (sounds like maybe 1 electric accompanying on the guitar mutes) drum machine and maraca/shaker. Here's another question related to Fade In-Out and Johnny Depp. These are Noel's words from an interview with Q Magazine in 1997: " The first part of the song is from the Mustique demo with Johnny Depp playing slide guitar." oasisdna , can you confirm this? Is the intro of the album version exactly the same as the demo? Or is it just similar? Thanks! |
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Post by kennerado on Feb 13, 2016 19:50:48 GMT -5
I know on the album version Depp's part was recorded by Owen Morris in a London hotel room when Johnny was in town.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 14, 2016 3:58:22 GMT -5
Not quite, but definitely better than Jason Donovan I see. One Direction is a best music group of all the time. Are you on drugs? |
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Post by The Thieving Magpie on Feb 14, 2016 4:05:19 GMT -5
I see. One Direction is a best music group of all the time. Are you on drugs? Are you kidding me? |
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Post by rekrelf on Feb 14, 2016 10:06:11 GMT -5
The greatest album of all time. Oh yes!!!! :-) |
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Post by oasisdna on Feb 14, 2016 20:01:04 GMT -5
Fade in out is just an acoustic drop-D tuned guitar (sounds like maybe 1 electric accompanying on the guitar mutes) drum machine and maraca/shaker. Here's another question related to Fade In-Out and Johnny Depp. These are Noel's words from an interview with Q Magazine in 1997: " The first part of the song is from the Mustique demo with Johnny Depp playing slide guitar." oasisdna , can you confirm this? Is the intro of the album version exactly the same as the demo? Or is it just similar? Thanks! Yes I confirm with absolute 100% certainty it's the same exact intro...everything down to the coughing and the "just go..." comment. So yes, what is on BHN is the musique demo intro and vice versa |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 14, 2016 20:30:28 GMT -5
Here's another question related to Fade In-Out and Johnny Depp. These are Noel's words from an interview with Q Magazine in 1997: " The first part of the song is from the Mustique demo with Johnny Depp playing slide guitar." oasisdna , can you confirm this? Is the intro of the album version exactly the same as the demo? Or is it just similar? Thanks! Yes I confirm with absolute 100% certainty it's the same exact intro...everything down to the coughing and the "just go..." comment. So yes, what is on BHN is the musique demo intro and vice versa Wooooooow!!!!!! Nice. It's my favourite track on BHN. Yes that's right. DYKWIM is second. Fade In-Out just has so many layers/references.. It's a fascinating composition. |
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Post by oasiscam29 on Feb 14, 2016 21:28:36 GMT -5
that shot of liam at Oakland from behind is taken from MTV JAPAN
you can see her filming the gig near Allan White and around the side of the stage that same girl walks out of the phone box at earls court with the same video camera the band and management must of trusted her as she is seen at many gigs.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 15, 2016 2:28:10 GMT -5
Well, it certainly would explain your bizarre posts... |
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Post by kennerado on Feb 15, 2016 4:24:19 GMT -5
Here's another question related to Fade In-Out and Johnny Depp. These are Noel's words from an interview with Q Magazine in 1997: " The first part of the song is from the Mustique demo with Johnny Depp playing slide guitar." oasisdna , can you confirm this? Is the intro of the album version exactly the same as the demo? Or is it just similar? Thanks! Yes I confirm with absolute 100% certainty it's the same exact intro...everything down to the coughing and the "just go..." comment. So yes, what is on BHN is the musique demo intro and vice versa Wow, nice piece of info. Almost 20 years later and we are still learning all this stuff. |
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Post by jupi on Feb 15, 2016 6:28:19 GMT -5
Quick question. Why wasn't I got the Fever done at Mustique? A lot of the BHN B-sides were written after the release of the album, including The Fever and Going Nowhere. Many of the B-sides for DM & MG were written and recorded after the album recording sessions, too. Going Nowhere
"That one's off "Stand By Me", isn't it? The other two, "(I Got)The Fever" and, er, thingy (he means "My Sister Lover"), they're the ones I like the least. That was when we were like, 'Oh f**k, gotta write some B-sides'. They were just f*****g bashed together, couple of chords and a chord change. Which I hate doing, because it's selling yourself short, really, and it's not fair on the people who buy the records. But "Going Nowhere" is one of the better ones out of that period of time." -Noel for NME 1998. The new details that oasisdna has brought us have made me even more baffled about the recording of BHN. If these demos were more than just quick acoustic run-throughs, then why weren't they used as the template for the album? Because they were recorded on 8-tracker IIRC. When overdubbing and recording more layers to the songs ie. playing different instrument parts, they had to mix some of the tracks together to make room for others. Unfortunately the tracks can't be isolated afterwards so if the take, sound or mix wasn't spot on the backing track couldn't be used. Owen Morris later regretted that he hadn't recorded the sessions properly so they could've been used for the actual album. I can't remember the source for this one at the moment, sorry. oasisdna, was no demo of BHN's title track was recorded at Mystique? Do you happen to know if a demo of that song exists? Cuz I remember that Noel said he wrote it while banging on a toy piano belonging to one of Mick Jagger's kids during his vacation there. I also vaguely remember Owen Morris saying that he and Noel recorded a demo at Mystique, though I might be wrong. Thanks!  The toy piano was in Mustique, yes, but the song was written back in the UK. "In Mustique Johnny Depp and Kate Moss stayed at Mick Jagger's house. We were
down on the beach and there was this toy plastic piano that belonged to one of
Jagger's kids. The opening's played on that, slowed down. I was pressing that
one key for about two hours, Meg going, 'Will you f*****g shut up!' Anyway, I
nicked it - me from Burnage. I can't help it. Mick can have it back if he
wants.
Then, back home, I was talking about drum loops with Owen Morris and he said
one of the greatest was the opening to Honky Tonk Woman. We played it and it
was in the same time signature as that piano. So I wrote the song from there.
I liked the Stones involvement at the start and the finish of writing it." -Noel for Q September 1997 |
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Post by welshylad on Feb 15, 2016 6:59:51 GMT -5
Fade in out is just an acoustic drop-D tuned guitar . I've always played Fade In-Out with a double drop D.. Both E strings down to a D |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 15, 2016 7:35:44 GMT -5
Quick question. Why wasn't I got the Fever done at Mustique? A lot of the BHN B-sides were written after the release of the album, including The Fever and Going Nowhere. Many of the B-sides for DM & MG were written and recorded after the album recording sessions, too. Going Nowhere
"That one's off "Stand By Me", isn't it? The other two, "(I Got)The Fever" and, er, thingy (he means "My Sister Lover"), they're the ones I like the least. That was when we were like, 'Oh f**k, gotta write some B-sides'. They were just f*****g bashed together, couple of chords and a chord change. Which I hate doing, because it's selling yourself short, really, and it's not fair on the people who buy the records. But "Going Nowhere" is one of the better ones out of that period of time." -Noel for NME 1998. The new details that oasisdna has brought us have made me even more baffled about the recording of BHN. If these demos were more than just quick acoustic run-throughs, then why weren't they used as the template for the album? Because they were recorded on 8-tracker IIRC. When overdubbing and recording more layers to the songs ie. playing different instrument parts, they had to mix some of the tracks together to make room for others. Unfortunately the tracks can't be isolated afterwards so if the take, sound or mix wasn't spot on the backing track couldn't be used. Owen Morris later regretted that he hadn't recorded the sessions properly so they could've been used for the actual album. I can't remember the source for this one at the moment, sorry. oasisdna , was no demo of BHN's title track was recorded at Mystique? Do you happen to know if a demo of that song exists? Cuz I remember that Noel said he wrote it while banging on a toy piano belonging to one of Mick Jagger's kids during his vacation there. I also vaguely remember Owen Morris saying that he and Noel recorded a demo at Mystique, though I might be wrong. Thanks! The toy piano was in Mustique, yes, but the song was written back in the UK. "In Mustique Johnny Depp and Kate Moss stayed at Mick Jagger's house. We were
down on the beach and there was this toy plastic piano that belonged to one of
Jagger's kids. The opening's played on that, slowed down. I was pressing that
one key for about two hours, Meg going, 'Will you f*****g shut up!' Anyway, I
nicked it - me from Burnage. I can't help it. Mick can have it back if he
wants.
Then, back home, I was talking about drum loops with Owen Morris and he said
one of the greatest was the opening to Honky Tonk Woman. We played it and it
was in the same time signature as that piano. So I wrote the song from there.
I liked the Stones involvement at the start and the finish of writing it." -Noel for Q September 1997 Actually Going Nowhere was not written afterwards. It's one of the oldest songs Noel ever wrote, dating back before DM was even released. I read a quote from Noel somewhere saying it was the oldest song on The Masterplan album. The clue is in the lyrics, which is all about dreaming of wanting to be famous, and goes against everything during the BHN period, which is why it probably never ended up on the album. |
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