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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 15, 2016 7:37:01 GMT -5
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It was written in '92, IIRC.
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Feb 15, 2016 7:40:22 GMT -5
^ It was written in '92, IIRC. There you go, I knew Going Nowhere was old, but I didn't think it was that old....  |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 15, 2016 7:49:05 GMT -5
According to The Masterplan sleevenotes Going Nowhere was writeen in 1990, and IIRC All Around the World was written around 1992
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 15, 2016 7:50:12 GMT -5
^ It was written in '92, IIRC. There you go, I knew Going Nowhere was old, but I didn't think it was that old.... I was wrong, it's even older: Going Nowhere “That was written before we had a record deal. It’s about what we were going to do when we got all the money. But we didn’t record it until 1997. I don’t know why we never done that one. I like it, I like the fact that we just finished the album and there were million guitar tracks on the album. There was only me and Whitey present at the time because everybody was just having a hard day or just had enough really. So I just went in there with Whitey and done it on an afternoon. The song’s really old, probably from 1990. That one was pretty spontaneous, we just got everyone down there and sort of done it.” (Gallagher, quoted in Melody Maker) |
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Post by jupi on Feb 15, 2016 8:35:36 GMT -5
Actually Going Nowhere was not written afterwards. It's one of the oldest songs Noel ever wrote, dating back before DM was even released. I read a quote from Noel somewhere saying it was the oldest song on The Masterplan album. The clue is in the lyrics, which is all about dreaming of wanting to be famous, and goes against everything during the BHN period, which is why it probably never ended up on the album. Duh, my bad! Should've doublechecked what I'm writing before posting.  |
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Post by will97smith on Feb 15, 2016 9:15:41 GMT -5
Anyone know if a demo of Flashbax exists?
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Post by space75gr on Feb 17, 2016 2:44:59 GMT -5
Noel on Absolute radio, talkin about BHN :
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Post by kennerado on Feb 17, 2016 3:50:44 GMT -5
hmm, they actually screamed themselves?....should of just hired someone to do it - or get some fan girls into the studio. He still calls it a flop, he really has issues with this LP.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Feb 17, 2016 4:05:47 GMT -5
ive always just assumed it was them screaming on fade in-out. not a big surprise to find out it was...
curious if noel thinks BHN is his worst album? id almost rate the albums in order of release.
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Post by beentherenow on Feb 17, 2016 4:49:40 GMT -5
I think he's being sarcastic when he calls it a 'nine million flop',
His ego is basically telling people this album is considered a flop by everyone but still sold more than most bands have in their entire career
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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 17, 2016 5:05:05 GMT -5
I think he's being sarcastic when he calls it a 'nine million flop', His ego is basically telling people this album is considered a flop by everyone but still sold more than most bands have in their entire career It would be nice (though unlikely) to get perhaps an off the record viewpoint from Noel on Be Here Now, as he seems to have followed the general critical trend of dismissing the album, without seeming to consider any positives to the record. I understand that personal and professional memories of that era could cloud his judgement, but I would like to see him give an objective retrospective appraisal of what, for both positive and negative reasons, is an era defining record. |
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Post by liamsvoice on Feb 17, 2016 6:11:58 GMT -5
I think he's being sarcastic when he calls it a 'nine million flop', His ego is basically telling people this album is considered a flop by everyone but still sold more than most bands have in their entire career It would be nice (though unlikely) to get perhaps an off the record viewpoint from Noel on Be Here Now, as he seems to have followed the general critical trend of dismissing the album, without seeming to consider any positives to the record. I understand that personal and professional memories of that era could cloud his judgement, but I would like to see him give an objective retrospective appraisal of what, for both positive and negative reasons, is an era defining record. They only did DYKWIM and MBM after 98 live and im pretty sure Noel knew then fans would have loved a few BHN songs. So i think that made it clear what he thinks of the album. |
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Post by rekrelf on Feb 17, 2016 6:14:58 GMT -5
It would be nice (though unlikely) to get perhaps an off the record viewpoint from Noel on Be Here Now, as he seems to have followed the general critical trend of dismissing the album, without seeming to consider any positives to the record. I understand that personal and professional memories of that era could cloud his judgement, but I would like to see him give an objective retrospective appraisal of what, for both positive and negative reasons, is an era defining record. They only did DYKWIM and MBM after 98 live and im pretty sure Noel knew then fans would have loved a few BHN songs. So i think that made it clear what he thinks of the album. They also played SBM... |
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Post by beentherenow on Feb 17, 2016 6:43:11 GMT -5
He's also played Don't Go Away a few times
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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 17, 2016 6:45:43 GMT -5
It would be nice (though unlikely) to get perhaps an off the record viewpoint from Noel on Be Here Now, as he seems to have followed the general critical trend of dismissing the album, without seeming to consider any positives to the record. I understand that personal and professional memories of that era could cloud his judgement, but I would like to see him give an objective retrospective appraisal of what, for both positive and negative reasons, is an era defining record. They only did DYKWIM and MBM after 98 live and im pretty sure Noel knew then fans would have loved a few BHN songs. So i think that made it clear what he thinks of the album. His opinion clouded by past personal memories and critical opinion maybe though was my point. I agree with you as it happens, I think his mindset is it's a shit album with no redeeming features, but I was saying it would have been good if he could have reappraised the album objectively and included versions of some of those songs in subsequent tours, etc. |
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Post by rekrelf on Feb 17, 2016 7:18:17 GMT -5
He's also played Don't Go Away a few times Right. |
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Post by liamsvoice on Feb 17, 2016 7:39:14 GMT -5
yeah forgot about it and also about DGA. Doesnt matter. Live they left the album out actually compared to other albums. And we all would have loved at least one of the BHN songs live i guess. Noel just plays it safe, not that any critic would care if they would have done BHN song live but imo he thinks its bad for his reputation so he sticked to songs that everybody loves. And yeah its also Liam who either didnt even remember some songs or just couldnt sing them anymore but come on it would have been possible to do some more BHN songs after 98... |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 17, 2016 7:52:42 GMT -5
I think he's being sarcastic when he calls it a 'nine million flop', His ego is basically telling people this album is considered a flop by everyone but still sold more than most bands have in their entire career It would be nice (though unlikely) to get perhaps an off the record viewpoint from Noel on Be Here Now, as he seems to have followed the general critical trend of dismissing the album, without seeming to consider any positives to the record. I understand that personal and professional memories of that era could cloud his judgement, but I would like to see him give an objective retrospective appraisal of what, for both positive and negative reasons, is an era defining record. We did sort of get something from him last year, when he said he went back into the studio to look at producing an edited down version for the remaster, but then realised when he played it back for the first time, that to someone, this is their favourite album, and who is he to go back and kind of edit it from history? I'm pretty sure (though wouldn't state my life on it), that he said that actually, some of it was "pretty good". That's probably as good as we're gonna get from him. And true to form, the very next week, when promoting Chasing Yesterday, he reverted to form and said "my new record can't possibly be as bad as Be here Now."  |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 17, 2016 7:54:02 GMT -5
oh and guigsysEstring... If, with the literate, I am
Impelled to try an epigram,
I never seek to take the credit;
We all assume that Oscar said it.
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Post by rekrelf on Feb 17, 2016 11:53:55 GMT -5
yeah forgot about it and also about DGA. Doesnt matter. Live they left the album out actually compared to other albums. And we all would have loved at least one of the BHN songs live i guess. Noel just plays it safe, not that any critic would care if they would have done BHN song live but imo he thinks its bad for his reputation so he sticked to songs that everybody loves. And yeah its also Liam who either didnt even remember some songs or just couldnt sing them anymore but come on it would have been possible to do some more BHN songs after 98... Of corse you are right mate!!! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 17, 2016 12:14:13 GMT -5
Again......................fuck you Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 13:43:34 GMT -5
imagine this right...they do release it in 2017 but its same as the other two with lazy extras and one mustique demo with the start of the song missing like that up in the sky performance on DM... this place isnt going to be happy.....will make Liams twitter thread look like a happy garden party.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 14:30:53 GMT -5
imagine this right...they do release it in 2017 but its same as the other two with lazy extras and one mustique demo with the start of the song missing like that up in the sky performance on DM... this place isnt going to be happy.....will make Liams twitter thread look like a happy garden party. Disc 1: Be Here Now album poorly remastered version that sounds worse than the original. Disc 2: B-Sides and alternative versions that sound basically the same as the originals. Disc 3: Poor sound quality live tracks that are worse than the bootlegs. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 17, 2016 14:47:15 GMT -5
imagine this right...they do release it in 2017 but its same as the other two with lazy extras and one mustique demo with the start of the song missing like that up in the sky performance on DM... this place isnt going to be happy.....will make Liams twitter thread look like a happy garden party. Disc 1: Be Here Now album poorly remastered version that sounds worse than the original. Disc 2: B-Sides and alternative versions that sound basically the same as the originals. Disc 3: Poor sound quality live tracks that are worse than the bootlegs. As long as we a single Mustique demo I'll happily buy the 3CD set. If they do it right I'd probably even buy the boxset! Oh wait... I've said this before, about 10 fucking times in the last 18 months. Fuck you Noel. |
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