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Post by space75gr on Sept 29, 2015 3:20:37 GMT -5
now, only a back to the basics can save the legacy of that band.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 29, 2015 5:38:22 GMT -5
now, only a back to the basics can save the legacy of that band. Didn't they already try the "back to basics" approach for Angles?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 29, 2015 5:40:26 GMT -5
Strokes back in the studio?!?!?!? File that under who gives a shit. The sun set on this band a decade ago. Now it's just a lifeless brand. Lifestyle music for Williamsburg. Why all the hate? I'm not a fan of the Strokes either but I can just leave them alone... I just see them as a tremendous lost opportunity. This band completely lost the plot with First Impressions of Earth till this very day. Although "You Only Love Once" might be their best song ever.
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Post by space75gr on Sept 29, 2015 6:25:07 GMT -5
now, only a back to the basics can save the legacy of that band. Didn't they already try the "back to basics" approach for Angles? no, i dont think so. "Angles" was another lost opportunity, a bad examble of experimentation, with 2-3 great proper tracks and the rest of the album somewhere lost in...(?)ok half finished songs and ideas, songs that hardly want to hear again. our love for the strokes make it give them always a better verdict, but in realitty "angles" has nothing to do with what the band are really capable of. It s miles away from the brilliance of their first 2 albums (plus the 3rd without the fillers) sometimes experimentation is good, to move forward (see: radiohead)but only when the songs and the final result is good. otherwise release your stuff under a different name/project/b side (see:julian casablancas+the voidz)and keep everyone happy. if the songs are good/great no one will care if they still sound like 2000
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 29, 2015 13:00:56 GMT -5
First Impressions was their great lost opportunity, cut half of the songs on that album, which were fillers, and it would have been an amazing album.
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Post by scott1 on Sept 29, 2015 13:17:40 GMT -5
I just see them as a tremendous lost opportunity. This band completely lost the plot with First Impressions of Earth till this very day. Although "You Only Love Once" might be their best song ever. That's definitely their best song, so so good.
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Post by Manualex on Sept 29, 2015 22:53:58 GMT -5
The only time Julian Casablancas wrote an entire Strokes LP was Is this it...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 30, 2015 11:31:10 GMT -5
The only time Julian Casablancas wrote an entire Strokes LP was Is this it... His most recent solo album, The Voidez or whatever the fuck he called it, was a terrible album. Here is an honest review:
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Post by Cast on Sept 30, 2015 12:05:18 GMT -5
Strokes back in the studio?!?!?!? File that under who gives a shit. The sun set on this band a decade ago. Now it's just a lifeless brand. Lifestyle music for Williamsburg. Why all the hate? I'm not a fan of the Strokes either but I can just leave them alone... I don't really think its hate, more like maybe a slight bit of bitter disappointment concerning how great the band could have been. Is This It is a bonafide classic in my book. As a debut its gonna be one of the ten best of all time and its a generation defining record as well. Room on Fire is a legitimately great record as well, but they just lost the plot afterwards. First Impressions like BHN has moments of glory, but its overstuffed with too many mediocre songs. Angles is 50/50 good, and I just think comedown machine is boring. Yeah theres some experimentation going on, but they don't feel vital and there's just a lifelessness surrounding them these days. Kinda feels halfhearted a lot of the time.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 30, 2015 13:23:24 GMT -5
Why all the hate? I'm not a fan of the Strokes either but I can just leave them alone... I don't really think its hate, more like maybe a slight bit of bitter disappointment concerning how great the band could have been. Is This It is a bonafide classic in my book. As a debut its gonna be one of the ten best of all time and its a generation defining record as well. Room on Fire is a legitimately great record as well, but they just lost the plot afterwards. First Impressions like BHN has moments of glory, but its overstuffed with too many mediocre songs. Angles is 50/50 good, and I just think comedown machine is boring. Yeah theres some experimentation going on, but they don't feel vital and there's just a lifelessness surrounding them these days. Kinda feels halfhearted a lot of the time. If you read or listen to interviews with the band members, none of them genuinely seem to want the band to continue on as The Strokes. The last two albums the band preferred to record the album alone and have Julian lay vocals later by himself. Very strange vibes. I think most of the members would be happy doing their smaller solo projects. Keep in mind, none of them need the money. Almost all of them are sons of extremely rich people.
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 16, 2015 6:26:26 GMT -5
now, only a back to the basics can save the legacy of that band. Didn't they already try the "back to basics" approach for Angles? I still like Angles but for the longest time I thought it was called Angels.
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 16, 2015 21:28:53 GMT -5
If you read or listen to interviews with the band members, none of them genuinely seem to want the band to continue on as The Strokes. The last two albums the band preferred to record the album alone and have Julian lay vocals later by himself. Very strange vibes. I think most of the members would be happy doing their smaller solo projects. Keep in mind, none of them need the money. Almost all of them are sons of extremely rich people. [/quote] Why do you think they're still putting out music? Contractual obligations?
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Post by Manualex on Oct 16, 2015 22:04:43 GMT -5
If you read or listen to interviews with the band members, none of them genuinely seem to want the band to continue on as The Strokes. The last two albums the band preferred to record the album alone and have Julian lay vocals later by himself. Very strange vibes. I think most of the members would be happy doing their smaller solo projects. Keep in mind, none of them need the money. Almost all of them are sons of extremely rich people. Why do you think they're still putting out music? Contractual obligations? [/quote] Well, they are label free since the release of Comedown Machine(I know they signed with Rough Trade for 7 albums in the UK but in the rest of the world they were signed with RCA for 5) and they want to release a new one.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 17, 2015 13:42:11 GMT -5
If they want to do a new album, they will release it just for the sake of it.
They doesn't function as a unit and they used to, there is bad blood for some reason, they are all now a bunch of professional band members who work togheter, but not mates anymore.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 17, 2015 14:54:46 GMT -5
Their debut album is still so fucking good.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 4, 2016 13:49:29 GMT -5
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Post by Cast on Jan 4, 2016 14:20:29 GMT -5
A really good write up. What do people think of this record? I remember the hype was so real. I was in high school at the time and I remember they had advertisements on tv for the record. Albert really nailed it with his description of the album. It was the last truly magical strokes record in a weird way, because they still felt so vital at the time, but it also kinda marked the end of them as an exciting band. Angles has some bright moments and is more successful as an experimental record and Comedown Machine is consistent, but neither take you on the rocky up and down roller coaster of quality and emotion that this record does. Razorblade, You Only Live Once are legit Stroke classics in my book. Vision Of Division, Heart In A Cage, Ize Of The World, Evening Sun, Electricityscape, are all pretty good as well, and hell I even like Juicebox! I get the hate for that song, but its just a fucking ripper. I love how comic it is. Definitely inspired Arctic Monkeys to some degree on that one. But it kinda alludes to the dense, even more crammed sound that Julian would drift toward.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 4, 2016 14:27:22 GMT -5
A really good write up. What do people think of this record? I remember the hype was so real. I was in high school at the time and I remember they had advertisements on tv for the record. Albert really nailed it with his description of the album. It was the last truly magical strokes record in a weird way, because they still felt so vital at the time, but it also kinda marked the end of them as an exciting band. Angles has some bright moments and is more successful as an experimental record and Comedown Machine is consistent, but neither take you on the rocky up and down roller coaster of quality and emotion that this record does. Razorblade, You Only Live Once are legit Stroke classics in my book. Vision Of Division, Heart In A Cage, Ize Of The World, Evening Sun, Electricityscape, are all pretty good as well, and hell I even like Juicebox! I get the hate for that song, but its just a fucking ripper. I love how comic it is. Definitely inspired Arctic Monkeys to some degree on that one. But it kinda alludes to the dense, even more crammed sound that Julian would drift toward. An incredibly messy album with only one true redeeming song........"You Only Live Once".
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Post by Cast on Jan 6, 2016 12:26:14 GMT -5
A really good write up. What do people think of this record? I remember the hype was so real. I was in high school at the time and I remember they had advertisements on tv for the record. Albert really nailed it with his description of the album. It was the last truly magical strokes record in a weird way, because they still felt so vital at the time, but it also kinda marked the end of them as an exciting band. Angles has some bright moments and is more successful as an experimental record and Comedown Machine is consistent, but neither take you on the rocky up and down roller coaster of quality and emotion that this record does. Razorblade, You Only Live Once are legit Stroke classics in my book. Vision Of Division, Heart In A Cage, Ize Of The World, Evening Sun, Electricityscape, are all pretty good as well, and hell I even like Juicebox! I get the hate for that song, but its just a fucking ripper. I love how comic it is. Definitely inspired Arctic Monkeys to some degree on that one. But it kinda alludes to the dense, even more crammed sound that Julian would drift toward. An incredibly messy album with only one true redeeming song........"You Only Live Once". No love for Razorblade? I get that its a bit of a rip, but I love how its a reggae cousin to Under Control. YOLO is a classic for sure, but Razborblade isn't too far behind in my books. Juicebox's maddness just perfectly sums of the Strokes circa 2006, similar to how D'You Know What I Mean sums up Oasis in 1997. Its a tune that splits people, and I've had an on and off again relationship with it, but I lean more towards loving it. Ize Of The World is what the Voidz shoulda been. Really underrated track. This is also the first Strokes album where they all really became legit musicians. They were good before no doubt, and the songs were definitely better but everyone besides Julian stepped their game up here. Hell even he gave up the vox filter.
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Post by Manualex on Jan 6, 2016 22:23:09 GMT -5
Nick valensi has lost his iconic guitar(1995 Epiphone Riviera) The Strokes are offering a reward for whoever has information. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153960386361336&id=167528651335Color: Natural (Orange-ish hue) Brand: Epiphone Model: 1995 Riviera Serial Number: R95E5702 What makes it unique: The pic guard has been removed. The headstock plate has an “E” Epiphone logo on it. Trapezoidal “mother-of-pearl” inlays on the neck. It’s been modified with P-94 pick ups and trapeze tailpiece. Case: Black Calzone Flight case with metal edges and butterfly latches. There’s a crack in the bottom of the case with gaffer tape covering it up. Covered in fragile stickers and other markings from traveling. This sucks.
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Post by lahaine on Feb 17, 2016 8:29:55 GMT -5
Their debut album is still so fucking good. Definitely a Classic for sure. It's tough to follow up such a blistering Debut to be fair, some bands have that one off statement and they can't reach those heights again. In some band cases they follow up a debut with a very good second album (Oasis and Arctic Monkeys) or fine one (Stone Roses and even the Strokes themselves) some can't be bothered cause they know they can never top it (The La's). For me The Strokes fall into the same trap with Franz Ferdinand, The Libertines, Arcade Fire, Bands for me that still release fine stuff but nothing that reaches the peaks of their debut albums.
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 17, 2016 15:24:16 GMT -5
I'm discovering now this band I gave a listen to Is This It a couple of months ago but I didn't like it, today I tried again and I enjoyed it. I'll try all the other records
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Post by lahaine on Feb 17, 2016 16:44:19 GMT -5
I'm discovering now this band I gave a listen to Is This It a couple of months ago but I didn't like it, today I tried again and I enjoyed it. I'll try all the other records It takes a few listens to really get into Is This It but once it clicks it just sticks with you. Glad to hear you are enjoying it. Give Room on Fire a listen it's their second best album after their debut, every other album is hit and miss but the hits are great.
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