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Post by allingoodtime on Apr 1, 2014 16:50:10 GMT -5
The two most obvious ad John and Paul but listening to George's work really surprised me he has some great songs so its hard to pick between them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 16:55:48 GMT -5
I voted for George, cause he always looked the coolest.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Apr 1, 2014 17:03:58 GMT -5
my favorite Beatles songs are John's and I prefer John's solo songs, so...
Thanks.
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Post by allingoodtime on Apr 1, 2014 17:10:47 GMT -5
this is tough for me..
I think Ringo is the only one im not really a fan of
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Post by allingoodtime on Apr 3, 2014 16:43:31 GMT -5
i'm going for george too
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Post by Bellboy on Apr 3, 2014 19:01:47 GMT -5
Paul for me. I love all the Beatles but with Wings & solo songs, Paul wins.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Apr 3, 2014 19:12:47 GMT -5
George, including his work with the Traveling Wilburies. But then again I'm not all that fond of the Beatles...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 3, 2014 23:25:21 GMT -5
Well I didn't pick the name Harrison2217. I think all the Beatles solo material is very patchy. A couple great albums here and there but none of them really continuously dominated at a high artistic level. Unless you count Paul and Wings. Lennon's first two albums are fantastic. After that very hit or miss. Lennon did always manage to release good singles. I think by the mid 70s he just didn't care about making music anymore.
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Post by Sternumman on Apr 4, 2014 1:30:44 GMT -5
There is a lot of post Beatle music from john that I just don't get. It seems that he wanted to get away from the Beatle sound so much that the songs are so stripped down. A lot of it is unlistenable to me, especially the Yoko stuff. If he was still alive he'd be making music with Yoko and Sean and I'm sure it would be insufferable. I picked Paul originally because I think the man truly enjoys to play music and if you still see him play live today you'd still have a blast. However I switched back to John because even though as a whole I don't like the solo stuff none of Paul's solo work comes close to Watching the Wheels, Instant Karma, Jealous Guy or Imagine.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Apr 4, 2014 2:08:59 GMT -5
The rather bizarre ELECTRONIC SOUNDS aside, George is the only Beatles never to put out a completely duff solo album.
Reading the extended version of ALL THESE YEARS has only made me realise how important he was as a founding member of The Beatles.
And George always looked cool. And he's a sarcastic bugger like Noel.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 4, 2014 8:05:40 GMT -5
The rather bizarre ELECTRONIC SOUNDS aside, George is the only Beatles never to put out a completely duff solo album. Reading the extended version of ALL THESE YEARS has only made me realise how important he was as a founding member of The Beatles. And George always looked cool. And he's a sarcastic bugger like Noel. But is that really true? Do you honestly listen to very average albums like Extra Texture, Thirty Three & 1/3, Somewhere In England, George Harrison or Gone Troppo much? George, just like all the other Beatles, at long down periods in their solos careers. I haven't even heard anyone name those albums anywhere in decades. Over the last 10 years or so it has become very trendy to list George's solo career above Lennon and McCartney, when it was the latter for the previous 30 years. Nothing against George but Lennon/McCartney when in peak form, still shine brighter.
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Post by bardes on Apr 4, 2014 12:21:03 GMT -5
John Lennon because of Plastic Ono Band and Imagine.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 4, 2014 13:41:54 GMT -5
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Post by MickDude on Apr 4, 2014 13:58:52 GMT -5
John Lennon.
Paul has become a cartoon of himself, I like some of George's stuff but I'm not a massive fan and Ringworm, sorry Ringo has become a complete shit head. (Thomas The Tank Engine was good though)
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Post by fabulousbakers on Apr 4, 2014 16:13:45 GMT -5
But is that really true? Do you honestly listen to very average albums like Extra Texture, Thirty Three & 1/3, Somewhere In England, George Harrison or Gone Troppo much? George, just like all the other Beatles, at long down periods in their solos careers. I haven't even heard anyone name those albums anywhere in decades. Over the last 10 years or so it has become very trendy to list George's solo career above Lennon and McCartney, when it was the latter for the previous 30 years. Nothing against George but Lennon/McCartney when in peak form, still shine brighter. I do listen to those Harrison albums alot - I have his entire catalogue as a playlist on my ipod. But you're right, most people have forgotten them. Sure, there's no competition between a relaxed but enjoyable album like GONE TROPPO and a soaring landmark album like PLASTIC ONO BAND (my favourite Beatle solo album). I was merely pointing out that I find every Harrison album has something worthwhile going for it - the same can't be said for Lennon or McCartney's albums. Harrison's solo catalogue is more enjoyable as a whole - and for me has aged better - than Lennon or McCartney's. Having said that, make a playlist that ditches Lennon's work with Yoko (TWO VIRGINS, LIFE WITH THE LIONS, THE WEDDING ALBUM and anything else on which she sings lead) but leaves the rest of his solo catalogue and you have a great playlist. One of my favourite "homemade" albums takes the John tracks from DOUBLE FANTASY STRIPPED and replaces the Yoko tracks with John's MILK AND HONEY tracks. A great album. A shame she didn't let him sing lead on her own songs because she wasn't a bad writer herself around then. Paul's solo catalogue is all over the place. I did make a "best of" playlist for myself but (after a great start) it quickly became a case of having to look hard to find just one or two songs from each album. And why he's hiding his best modern stuff under the "Fireman" pseudonym just perplexes me.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 4, 2014 17:01:57 GMT -5
John Lennon. Paul has become a cartoon of himself, I like some of George's stuff but I'm not a massive fan and Ringworm, sorry Ringo has become a complete shit head. (Thomas The Tank Engine was good though) "Don't call me by my stage name!..."
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Post by Sternumman on Apr 4, 2014 20:48:11 GMT -5
This is a serious message!
peace and love, peace and love
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Post by matt on Apr 5, 2014 14:29:02 GMT -5
Paul McCartney isn't it?
My favourite post Beatles solo album is All Things Must Pass, but for sheer consistency, it's Paul. Even his new album is brilliant - didn't like Memory Almost Full at all, but most things he releases is quality. The Fireman 2008 album is a really brilliant underrated gem.
Lennon's first two albums are brilliant but there's nothing after that worth mentioning. Perhaps Paul never quite reached the heights of Plastic Ono Band, but he could constantly churn out an album as good as Imagine. Therefore, I'm amazed as to why Lennon is winning this - surely the most overrated Beatle?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Apr 5, 2014 15:20:52 GMT -5
Paul McCartney isn't it? My favourite post Beatles solo album is All Things Must Pass, but for sheer consistency, it's Paul. Even his new album is brilliant - didn't like Memory Almost Full at all, but most things he releases is quality. The Fireman 2008 album is a really brilliant underrated gem. Lennon's first two albums are brilliant but there's nothing after that worth mentioning. Perhaps Paul never quite reached the heights of Plastic Ono Band, but he could constantly churn out an album as good as Imagine. Therefore, I'm amazed as to why Lennon is winning this - surely the most overrated Beatle? In terms of full albums, maybe not, but I can't think of a McCartney song post-Beatles that's better than Mind Games
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Post by deasy on Apr 5, 2014 15:39:13 GMT -5
Yes. Easily imo. He was the driving force behind The Beatles during their peak. His solo career is also filled with classics. As Alan Partridge once said, "Wings?, they're only the band The Beatles could have been." I think that some people forget how legendary and prolific he was simply because he is fading out. If Paul had died in 1980 I think he would easily be leading this poll.
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Post by allingoodtime on Apr 5, 2014 16:40:48 GMT -5
I think Paul is better than John too..
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Post by matt on Apr 5, 2014 18:06:33 GMT -5
Yes. Easily imo. He was the driving force behind The Beatles during their peak. His solo career is also filled with classics. As Alan Partridge once said, "Wings?, they're only the band The Beatles could have been." I think that some people forget how legendary and prolific he was simply because he is fading out. If Paul had died in 1980 I think he would easily be leading this poll. People have rose-tinted spectacles when thinking of John. He died at such a young age, so when we think of him, he's still the same man who embodied peace, love and harmony and all that around the time. Paul's grown old with everyone - he's more like us so he's less unique plus his persona isn't so complex like John, and unfair criticisms such as The Frog Chorus (which was written for a childrens film) does seem to surround the man. It's not 'cool' to think the man who wrote When I'm Sixty Four, Yellow Submarine, Hey Jude, Let It Be and many major mainstream hits is better than the man who offered philosophical, psychedelic ramblings in Strawberry Fields Forever and Tomorrow Never Knows (which are great tunes don't get me wrong). But get this - I'd rather listen to Ob La Di Ob La Da than Bungalow Bill, the latter of which is Lennon's own childlike song. Yet nobody takes him up on it. And don't start me off with Revolution No 9. This is not me slating John, but I just never hear these similar arguments levelled against him that Paul gets. Another thing I find frustrating is that the centrepieces of arguably their two greatest albums - Sgt Pepper and Abbey Road - is the brainchild of Paul. The second half medley of Abbey Road was an idea conjured up by George Martin and Paul, and Paul himself contributed the greatest part of Abbey Road (notably the last half of the medley). But again, the hipsters like to concentrate on the fact he wrote Maxwell's Silver Hammer to degrade him (but I love that song anyway). As for Revolver, John makes the album it is with every song of his being brilliant, but the best song is actually Eleanor Rigby personally - I think the poignancy and tragedy and it's almost Dickensian/Victorian like qualities make it the best Beatles song on that album. And for such a psychedelic album, ironically the song is the complete opposite yet works all the better for it as the imagery is so much more realistic stark and vivid than the surreal psychedelia offered on that album. Whereas John's songs are much more of a mindfuck, there's a familiarity with Paul that provided The Beatles with such groundedness to their ambition. Therefore, I think there's much pretentiousness involved in thinking John's better amongst elitists. This is not for ALL John fans obviously (many genuinely do love his songs more), but it's pseudo-intellectuals who need to drop the pretense and look at it objectively, rather than jumping on the bandwagon to appear 'cool' and 'trendy'.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Apr 5, 2014 18:19:36 GMT -5
'Imagine' might be the most globally recognized song out of anything Beatle-related.
and 'Instant Karma' is one of my all-time favorite songs.
those two songs alone justify my preference for John, not to mention the other great songs he wrote solo like 'Oh Yoko!', 'Nobody Told Me', etc.
I prefer John's more melancholy and abstract writing style to Paul's more poppy songs.
the Beatles were insanely talented....there really isn't a wrong or better answer, just a personal preference.
God bless.
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Post by Cast on Apr 5, 2014 21:57:37 GMT -5
Wings is really shit in my opinion, but Paul's newest albums have all been decently consistent and his work with The Fireman is pretty good. He had a chance to grow old and he has done it pretty well. There is just something wonderfully magically about Paul's writing it is pure pop perfection even to this day on some of his tracks, he just nails it. If you want to write the most hummable song in the world you need to study Paul's work.
George has the best post beatles album with All Things Must Pass.
But John is my favorite songwriter in the Beatles. He has a couple great solo albums and I just happen to like his Beatles songs the most. He turned out some shit ones but he was fearless in his writing and I really really admire that. I'am the Walrus, In My Life, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, Strawberry Fields were all written by the same guy? Damn... (you could say Paul has the same level of diversity but still Paul didn't have as much edge as John did with regard to his songs, for the most part anyway.)
There really isn't a best Beatle, but the Beatles are the best.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 5, 2014 22:04:48 GMT -5
Wings is really shit in my opinion, but Paul's newest albums have all been decently consistent and his work with The Fireman is pretty good. He had a chance to grow old and he has done it pretty well. There is just something wonderfully magically about Paul's writing it is pure pop perfection even to this day on some of his tracks, he just nails it. If you want to write the most hummable song in the world you need to study Paul's work. George has the best post beatles album with All Things Must Pass. But John is my favorite songwriter in the Beatles. He has a couple great solo albums and I just happen to like his Beatles songs the most. He turned out some shit ones but he was fearless in his writing and I really really admire that. I'am the Walrus, In My Life, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, Strawberry Fields were all written by the same guy? Damn... (you could say Paul has the same level of diversity but still Paul didn't have as much edge as John did with regard to his songs, for the most part anyway.) There really isn't a best Beatle, but the Beatles are the best. I mean The Beatles live on another planet. I often think of that great joke: "What's your favorite Beatles song?"
"The last one I heard."That pretty much sums up how great this band was.
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