Its not as bad as people make out IMO

Hindu Times SCYHO Songbird and Little by little are very memorable tracks to me mixed with the likes of hung in a bad place, better man and born on a different cloud. Even the so called weakest tracks like she is love and force of nature I quite like tbh.

I find it hard to rank the albums after SOTSOG, but no way is HC that bad compared to the other 2. DBTT seems to get overrated IMO

The first 4 albums rank themselves for me, DM > WTSMG > BHN > SOTSOG and I also would like to believe it carries on that way. So HC > DBTT > DOYS

That's how I see it anyway.

Yeah, just remember that the critics gave bad reviews even for Morning Glory.

This is true man. Unreal those idiots are I'll tell ya that much

Was a great album at the time and a good period for the band,the albums solid and has there best singles of the decade,just production lets it down in places,but made a great summer

HC is just horrible. As many other have said great singles shit album.

Really unfortunate and disappointing. I probably haven't listened to that album all the way through in nearly a decade. Some songs have a bit of promise besides the singles. Hung In A Bad Place wouldn't be that bad if it had some production like I Can See A Liar. At least it'd rock but it doesn't really even do that. Force of Nature needed a bit a boost as well. Neither of those two songs are good but maybe I'd feel an itch to play them if they had been performed and produced better.

Don't Believe The Truth is a much better return to basics album. I'm listening to that album right now and it is really enjoyable. It's not a great album but it is a pretty damn good one. I think Oasis had it in them to at least make albums as good as DBTT, but they fucked it up. By either being too lazy, uninspired, or picking the wrong tracks.

Yeah they really messed up on leaving Shout it Out Loud and Idler's Dream off of HC. Both of those are fantastic songs some of the best Oasis songs after 00's. Honestly, Shout It Out Loud is one of the best songs that Noel has written. Idler's Dream is one of the most unique and heartfelt songs that the band recorded.

You've Got The Heart Of A Star is a solid song as well better than most of the stuff thats on HC. I understand that having those 3 would have been a lot of Noel sung songs but swap out Better Man, She Is Love (I don't think its horrible), and Probably all in the Mind for those three and HC would be a lot better.

The band producing HC was a huge error don't know why Stent did not produce it seeing as he mixed it. The demo of THT is a lot better than the album version in my opinion. The album version is just an Oasis by number song albeit a decent one but the demo is biting and unique something Oasis lacked with HC.

Heathen Chemistry to me was the beggining of the end of the classic Oasis format. Which I believe led to their demise.

- Noel singing on 3 tracks per album.
- Liam penning 3 songs per album.
- Gem and Andy 1 song each per album (sometimes 2).
- Noel penned b-sides with Liam on vocals? Nope. Say goodbye to that.

That all became the standard for their next 2 albums.

This is why sometimes their albums post SOTSOG felt "Frankensteinish", not cohesive or "top heavy". Oasis were better off led as a dictorship rather than a democracy.

I'm going to have to blame Noel here for giving up the reigns. Noel should have stuck to singing 1 song per album, maybe 2 but make it really count! (he always sang on 2 great songs and one shit one - She Is Love, High Horse Lady come to mind). Noel should have picked Gem and Andy's strongest material. Instead he picked some pretty weak tunes. Noel should have let Liam only write 2 songs per album. Like I said make it 2 great ones!.

Noel's songwriting changed. Maybe he got tired of the Oasis formula. He didn't have Liam in mind when he wrote most of the songs. It seems like he was going through the motions, Oasis by numbers on the rockers (Put Your Money... Hindu Times, Shock of the Lightning).

Since Liam, Gem, & Andy write 45% of each album, I guess Noel doesn't have to feel too much pressure. Then again the downside to that is he loses interest. It's not his baby anymore. I bet he felt more excited about his future solo album then a new Oasis album.

If I was a musician I would want a few albums under my belt before hitting the "big time". When huge success happens on your first 2 albums, there is only one way to go besides up. Also the feeling you can never quite capture that early success must feel very troubling.

Was Owen Morris at any point involved with SOTSOG? What stopped him working with oasis in the end? I think I've heard somewhere about Noel saying he was going deaf? Seems weird that in 2013/14 he would then be chosen to work on the reissues. I would guess him and Noel had a falling out sometime in 1998/1999

Owen had ZERO involvement with SOTSOG. Noel just wanted a fresh change. He basically changed everything during this time period. New band members. New Oasis logo. New producer. New country to record in. New style of songs. Noel must have been very disenchanted when the Be Here Now tour rolled to a dead stop. Owen does however pop up as the producer of the b-side "Helter Skelter". That is only because it was recorded during the Be Here Now era.

I always liked Heathen Chemistry and thought it was a return to form. I thought SOTSOG was disappointing despite songs that I loved. Hung In A Bad Place wasn't just a great glam tune, it was the precursor to The Roller. Gem wrote in order to use Liam's voice and I still think it would sound great at a Beady Eye show. Heathen Chemistry was not cohesive enough to sound like an album, a feat all its predecessors managed easily. Albums hit each of us at different points and mean different things.  Maybe I felt like a force of nature at the time, but it will always sound great for me.

Heathen Chemistry was a return to an imitation of form is a more accurate description.

The worst Oasis album by some distance in my opinion.