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Post by bardes on Jan 18, 2014 7:47:33 GMT -5
Without Liam or Oasis, no matter, Noel won't write songs like Lyla or Some Might Say...
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2014 10:46:48 GMT -5
Without Liam or Oasis, no matter, Noel won't write songs like Lyla or Some Might Say... Don't particularly want him to. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 11:05:19 GMT -5
Just say "NO!" to Dave Sardy.   Now that's a piece of production talk I like ,, fuck him. And overproduced crap |
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Post by shinealight on Jan 18, 2014 13:58:34 GMT -5
I don´t know what is your problem with Sardy guys. He isn´t innovative in any way, but Noel would not to let anyone to be completely in charge and there must be reson why he likes him. It´s like...Dave might think..."say no to lennon2217 and fuck kalas... no need for that hate.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2014 14:13:15 GMT -5
I don´t know what is your problem with Sardy guys. He isn´t innovative in any way, but Noel would not to let anyone to be completely in charge and there must be reson why he likes him. It´s like...Dave might think..."say no to lennon2217 and fuck kalas... no need for that hate. Fact: Noel Gallagher would love my humor, taste of music and fondness for beautiful women. I just feel Noel and the fans deserve better production out of his releases. Been pretty safe since 2000. Let's shake it up. Also....... It's a shame the Death In Vegas and AA sessions are rotting away in storage. Release the hounds!  PS.......................... kalas should be Noel's personal body guard and drinking partner.  |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 18, 2014 14:26:33 GMT -5
I don´t know what is your problem with Sardy guys. He isn´t innovative in any way, but Noel would not to let anyone to be completely in charge and there must be reson why he likes him. It´s like...Dave might think..."say no to lennon2217 and fuck kalas... no need for that hate. I feel that statement deserves a big font and screw it, let's go bold as well |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 18, 2014 15:10:10 GMT -5
All well and good to get rid of Sardy, but would Noel do it?
Under Sardy Noel has made three albums. Two critical and commercial successes. DBTT saw the resurgence of Oasis and HFB established Noel as a viable solo act. DOYS, while not the same commercial and critical success, did see Noel himself being extremely successful.
While with Sardy we've also seen Noel ride the biggest songwriting wave he's had since the 90's.
Knowing all of that....why would he leave Sardy?
Production aside, there's been no real reason for him to end their partnership.
Noel gets to make the music he wants with a person he trusts, has a good working relationship with, possible respect for, and a person he has had success with, commercially, critically, and creatively. Sardy has given Noel no reason to depart from him and has given him plenty of reasons why he should stick around.
Noel is going to do what satisfies him most. In the end, Sardy doesn't do anything that Noel doesn't want to do. He's not forcibly feeding his production down Noel's throat if Noel doesn't want it. Noel is going to stick with has worked and so far it's Sardy. For better or for worse.
There should be no surprise if he sticks with Sardy.
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Post by shinealight on Jan 18, 2014 15:26:29 GMT -5
I don´t know what is your problem with Sardy guys. He isn´t innovative in any way, but Noel would not to let anyone to be completely in charge and there must be reson why he likes him. It´s like...Dave might think..."say no to lennon2217 and fuck kalas... no need for that hate. Fact: Noel Gallagher would love my humor, taste of music and fondness for beautiful women. I just feel Noel and the fans deserve better production out of his releases. Been pretty safe since 2000. Let's shake it up. Also....... It's a shame the Death In Vegas and AA sessions are rotting away in storage. Release the hounds! PS.......................... kalas should be Noel's personal body guard and drinking partner. Not being offensive...or don´t want to be impolite...u might be a nice guy, but to say he would love your humour, taste of music... it is not a FACT. He might like you as when we put it in a very simple way...he need u to make his living. Otherwise he might think u´re a cocky young bugger. u never know All I said, some of you make comments like they would know better what Noel wanted than the chief himself. it is not the same as...hey fuckers, let´s create a poll here and Noel would make it real (give a vote who u think would do the best job with production). And if he thinks Sardy did/does good job then it is up to him to decide. He doesn´t have to satisfy any fans demands or make u happy with any release of unfinished materials (would be nice to hear them but I´m glad oasis didn´t give away music for free on internet) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 15:41:25 GMT -5
I don´t know what is your problem with Sardy guys. He isn´t innovative in any way, but Noel would not to let anyone to be completely in charge and there must be reson why he likes him. It´s like...Dave might think..."say no to lennon2217 and fuck kalas... no need for that hate. Fact: Noel Gallagher would love my humor, taste of music and fondness for beautiful women. I just feel Noel and the fans deserve better production out of his releases. Been pretty safe since 2000. Let's shake it up. Also....... It's a shame the Death In Vegas and AA sessions are rotting away in storage. Release the hounds! PS.......................... kalas should be Noel's personal body guard and drinking partner. Agreed !! Drink wise for sure ANd. City wise..... I think this shine guy thinks he's witty Lennon2217. Honestly not being a dick but when he tries to be witty regarding anything be that or Taylor swift thread. Or the football attempted clever posts , he loses plot , his music views is good enuff so that's all I pay attention to " Fuck kalas ". Ohh so hurt , lol |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 18, 2014 17:29:12 GMT -5
Fact: Noel Gallagher would love my humor, taste of music and fondness for beautiful women. I just feel Noel and the fans deserve better production out of his releases. Been pretty safe since 2000. Let's shake it up. Also....... It's a shame the Death In Vegas and AA sessions are rotting away in storage. Release the hounds! PS.......................... kalas should be Noel's personal body guard and drinking partner. Not being offensive...or don´t want to be impolite...u might be a nice guy, but to say he would love your humour, taste of music... it is not a FACT. He might like you as when we put it in a very simple way...he need u to make his living. Otherwise he might think u´re a cocky young bugger. u never know All I said, some of you make comments like they would know better what Noel wanted than the chief himself. it is not the same as...hey fuckers, let´s create a poll here and Noel would make it real (give a vote who u think would do the best job with production). And if he thinks Sardy did/does good job then it is up to him to decide. He doesn´t have to satisfy any fans demands or make u happy with any release of unfinished materials (would be nice to hear them but I´m glad oasis didn´t give away music for free on internet) * I hope Noel's people are reading these profound statements. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 17:35:56 GMT -5
Not being offensive...or don´t want to be impolite...u might be a nice guy, but to say he would love your humour, taste of music... it is not a FACT. He might like you as when we put it in a very simple way...he need u to make his living. Otherwise he might think u´re a cocky young bugger. u never know All I said, some of you make comments like they would know better what Noel wanted than the chief himself. it is not the same as...hey fuckers, let´s create a poll here and Noel would make it real (give a vote who u think would do the best job with production). And if he thinks Sardy did/does good job then it is up to him to decide. He doesn´t have to satisfy any fans demands or make u happy with any release of unfinished materials (would be nice to hear them but I´m glad oasis didn´t give away music for free on internet) * I hope Noel's people are reading these profound statements. If there smart  . Lennon2217  Then again what the fuck do I know. geez Let It Bleed your without doubt the keeper of forum history , lord knows you have found more shit of mine and sent to me for a laugh than I rememnber typing ....how many times have the words " fuck kalas " been typed here  . And by some who a actually ,made me laugh May I add |
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Post by matt on Jan 18, 2014 23:40:12 GMT -5
For me, it's not that Dave Sardy is too safe, but he is just a shit producer. And Noel writing good tunes again is not related to Dave Sardy, considering he never writes in the studio.
In terms of 'safe' producers, Owen Morris was streets ahead - sure, we'll forget Be Here Now, but songs like Wonderwall or Cast No Shadow have amazing production. Very clean and it sounds like it's produced in its time (though a large part of me thinks the drums really bring out those tunes too - Alan White being someone Oasis or Noel never got close to replacing). Also, the vocals really shone through as well, and the it all sounded fresh and as if the band were playing right in your living room.
Also, guys like Mark Stent gave Oasis songs a really nice gloss
Dave Sardy makes Noel and Oasis sound like they're recording in the 60s, which just adds fuel to the fire for the Beatles rip off claims. His production just seems so drab and uninspired. It's just dull, dull, dull - exhibit A: If I Had A Gun.
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Post by TheEyeballTickler on Jan 19, 2014 5:28:59 GMT -5
Most Oasis albums have shit production imo. They're very flat. Difficult to hear drums and bass. The to last albums are so much better. Sayin that, their production has It's own sharm. BHN has horrible production, but it should be that way.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jan 19, 2014 14:13:34 GMT -5
For me, it's not that Dave Sardy is too safe, but he is just a shit producer. And Noel writing good tunes again is not related to Dave Sardy, considering he never writes in the studio. In terms of 'safe' producers, Owen Morris was streets ahead - sure, we'll forget Be Here Now, but songs like Wonderwall or Cast No Shadow have amazing production. Very clean and it sounds like it's produced in its time (though a large part of me thinks the drums really bring out those tunes too - Alan White being someone Oasis or Noel never got close to replacing). Also, the vocals really shone through as well, and the it all sounded fresh and as if the band were playing right in your living room. Also, guys like Mark Stent gave Oasis songs a really nice gloss Dave Sardy makes Noel and Oasis sound like they're recording in the 60s, which just adds fuel to the fire for the Beatles rip off claims. His production just seems so drab and uninspired. It's just dull, dull, dull - exhibit A: If I Had A Gun. totally agree... owen morris ftw! |
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Post by shinealight on Jan 20, 2014 3:45:57 GMT -5
Fact: Noel Gallagher would love my humor, taste of music and fondness for beautiful women. I just feel Noel and the fans deserve better production out of his releases. Been pretty safe since 2000. Let's shake it up. Also....... It's a shame the Death In Vegas and AA sessions are rotting away in storage. Release the hounds! PS.......................... kalas should be Noel's personal body guard and drinking partner. Agreed !! Drink wise for sure ANd. City wise..... I think this shine guy thinks he's witty Lennon2217. Honestly not being a dick but when he tries to be witty regarding anything be that or Taylor swift thread. Or the football attempted clever posts , he loses plot , his music views is good enuff so that's all I pay attention to " Fuck kalas ". Ohh so hurt , lol whatever... i just said there' s no need for the hate that is being directed to Dave. If anyone believes Noel would let someone drastically change his work or to go out of his comfort zone more than he wants to, he' s a fool. And there is/was a reason why Noel came back to him for his solo work, so I reckon he likes him... otherwise peace & love |
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Post by freddy838 on Jan 20, 2014 9:02:16 GMT -5
Most of Noel/Oasis songs sound better live because you can normally hear all the instruments, and the distortion and wall of noise of the guitars is epic. I don't see why he doesn't just get his band in the studio, play the album live, record it, do the slightest bit of editing and release it. Fuck Sardy or whoever (I think Noel has to take the blame as well) putting too many bells and whistles on it, Noel's strength is his natural songwriting ability, just let the songs speak for themselves.
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Post by shoes222 on Jan 29, 2014 1:43:33 GMT -5
I just hope Sardy changes the sound a little bit but I think we know it will be the same old formula. I'm okay with it as long as the songs are good. What it their formula? Is it the formula of DBTT, DOYS, or HFB? All different sounding albums. You're confusing sound with style, GD. Those 3 albums all had different styles, yes. But they were all produced the same way from a sonic standpoint. Straightforward mixing. Bare bones everything. There was no creativity in the production at all. Sardy has a very workmanlike approach that Noel is obviously fond of, but I'm yet to hear a single album Sardy has produced (from any artist) that offers anything innovative, or enhances the listening experience of the songs. |
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Post by Cast on Feb 5, 2014 2:11:50 GMT -5
Just listened to If I Had a Gun for probably the first time in about 8 months. It's such a superb song. Classic Noel chorus, but I gotta say Sardy kinda ruins the delicate nature of the song. I've said this before If Nigel Godrich could have done similar production on IIHAG that he did on Radiohead's Nude, the song would be that much better. This dreamy, delicate style It just fits more with the song. The situation is similar to how Let There Be Love was a bit ruined from its demo version.
That said Sardy is probably who Noel is going to work with and he has never stopped him from the quality of songs Noel has written.
Still, Sardy and Noel's as well, aren't really maximizing their potential to a certain degree.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 5, 2014 16:10:58 GMT -5
Just listened to If I Had a Gun for probably the first time in about 8 months. It's such a superb song. Classic Noel chorus, but I gotta say Sardy kinda ruins the delicate nature of the song. I've said this before If Nigel Godrich could have done similar production on IIHAG that he did on Radiohead's Nude, the song would be that much better. This dreamy, delicate style It just fits more with the song. The situation is similar to how Let There Be Love was a bit ruined from its demo version. That said Sardy is probably who Noel is going to work with and he has never stopped him from the quality of songs Noel has written. Still, Sardy and Noel's as well, aren't really maximizing their potential to a certain degree. I've been dying for a Noel Gallagher/Nigel Gordrich production since the late 90s. Make it happen. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Feb 17, 2014 19:26:27 GMT -5
I have a feeling Brian Cannon's working on Noel's album artwork right now...
Thanks.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 21, 2014 11:40:40 GMT -5
We need more bold Arial fonts with black backgrounds
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Post by nickpop on Feb 21, 2014 13:19:27 GMT -5
I had lunch today with a relation of David Holmes who told me that Noel and him have met at David's house about possibly doing something with him. Dont know if its mixing his next album, or just a track or anything.. Would be interesting as David is quite a tallent.
As i said thats just what was told to me so by a relation of his.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 21, 2014 13:48:55 GMT -5
I remember reading somebody on Instagram saying he's seen Noel outside the studio where he usually works with Sardy in Los Angeles around the same time as the photo with Russell and Moz,then we found that tweet by that guy saying his brother was working in the same studio as Noel and then we got that post on the State Of The Ark studio's Facebook page...so we don't know if with Sardy of with somebody else,but I guess we'll have something soon |
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Post by cigarsinhell on Feb 23, 2014 1:46:42 GMT -5
Party in Hollywood.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 11:57:20 GMT -5
The album should be called 'Revolution Songs', I think that's a top name for an album personally.
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