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Post by manicsfan on Feb 20, 2013 5:40:17 GMT -5
For me the big one has to be Blonde on BLonde. I'm a Dylan fanatic, own all his stuff and have a pile of bootlegs as well.
I just feel there is too much filler on BOB. If Bob had cut it down to ten or eleven tracks it would be a masterpiece in my eyes the way Highway 61 Revisited is.
Nirvana's Nevermind as well. It has some cracking tunes on it and I do still play it the odd time.
In Utero for me is Cobains masterpiece. Dark, brooding, and harsh. The lyrics come from the soul of a man who knows it will all be over soon.
I feel it gets overlooked by people in favour of Nevermind.
I know some might disagree but that's just my two cents!
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Post by Ash & Debris on Feb 20, 2013 7:26:32 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.
Considering 2 of the songs on it had been around for ages. The best 3 songs on the album are significantly better in their stripped down acoustic forms (IIHAG, EOTR, AKABA). And 5 of the best songs from the era were somehow left off the album (ASGOG, TDYTL, LTLSALOM, AOTR, FT).
As for the rest of the album, AKAWAL is redeemable but can get repetitive quick. TDOYAM is good. DO, SOTWB and SBJF are very forgettable//fillers.
I have no idea how these latter 3 songs and the 2 rehashed songs were picked over those 5 songs that didn't make the cut - very baffling.
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Post by Bruno on Feb 20, 2013 8:30:09 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. Considering 2 of the songs on it had been around for ages. The best 3 songs on the album are significantly better in their stripped down acoustic forms (IIHAG, EOTR, AKABA). And 5 of the best songs from the era were somehow left off the album (ASGOG, TDYTL, LTLSALOM, AOTR, FT). As for the rest of the album, AKAWAL is redeemable but can get repetitive quick. TDOYAM is good. DO, SOTWB and SBJF are very forgettable//fillers. I have no idea how these latter 3 songs and the 2 rehashed songs were picked over those 5 songs that didn't make the cut - very baffling.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 8:48:44 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. Considering 2 of the songs on it had been around for ages. The best 3 songs on the album are significantly better in their stripped down acoustic forms (IIHAG, EOTR, AKABA). And 5 of the best songs from the era were somehow left off the album (ASGOG, TDYTL, LTLSALOM, AOTR, FT). As for the rest of the album, AKAWAL is redeemable but can get repetitive quick. TDOYAM is good. DO, SOTWB and SBJF are very forgettable//fillers. I have no idea how these latter 3 songs and the 2 rehashed songs were picked over those 5 songs that didn't make the cut - very baffling. Noel is a believer that an album should have a flow and uniform sound quality to it. that is why those 5 songs are not on there. He tries to keep his records from feeling like compilation albums. In the past this hasn't always worked out Heathen Chemistry and Dig Out Your Soul come to mind. Personally, Noel's latest album is probably the best "album" he's been a part of in the last 15 years. Considering all of the great tunes he's released in the interim, that's saying something. I don't fault the man for clearing out the closet of old tracks on his debut, because that's how everyone does it anyhow. Not to mention, it isn't his fault that you got your hands on a demo recording from over a decade ago of track that he hadn't yet released to the public. I think perceptions of songs like Record Machine and Stop The Clocks would very different if the world didn't have the demo prior to their release officially. Part of why fans love those 5 songs that were left off is because they are not on the album. As a fan, the tracks that most people don't have tend to be the ones that we hold most dear and cherish for their brilliance. I feel that way about a lot of Oasis' b-side catalogue, and some of Noel's extra tracks are starting to fall into that category for me too. For me, all of Noel's recently released material was on a very even playing field as to quality. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've said it before that i think Nevermind is the most overrated album of all time. Followed by Sargent Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band. This post is already too long. Maybe I'll expound out why later. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 8:52:56 GMT -5
For me the big one has to be Blonde on BLonde. I'm a Dylan fanatic, own all his stuff and have a pile of bootlegs as well. I just feel there is too much filler on BOB. If Bob had cut it down to ten or eleven tracks it would be a masterpiece in my eyes the way Highway 61 Revisited is. Nirvana's Nevermind as well. It has some cracking tunes on it and I do still play it the odd time. In Utero for me is Cobains masterpiece. Dark, brooding, and harsh. The lyrics come from the soul of a man who knows it will all be over soon. I feel it gets overlooked by people in favour of Nevermind. I know some might disagree but that's just my two cents! I think I know more people that love In Utero over Nevermind. Glad to know this isn't just a trend in the great state of New Jersey.  |
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Post by lahaine on Feb 20, 2013 10:01:31 GMT -5
MGMT- Oracular Spectacular
Apart from the singles theres way too much filler on this. too much praise was heaped onto this but apart from the singles (Time to Pretend,Kids and Electric Feel) does anyone ever mention other tracks. No cause they suck.
Pearl Jam-Ten
Just shocks me this outsold Nevermind and that shows me at times America really sucks when it comes to music. Eddie Vedder just leaves me cold as a singer and his continiung whining didn't help thank god Oasis came along and saved the day.
Radiohead-Ok computer
Its more for the fact its always number 1 in the greatest album of all time list. Is it better then Pet sounds, Revelvor, The Stone Roses, Never Mind the Bollocks, Exile on main Sreet? is it fuck, its very good but the Bend pisses over it.
Arcade Fire- Neon bible
Awful follow up to their Debut album Furenal yet critics still threw praise upon it.
The Velvet Underground WhiteLight/White heat
Compared to other Underground albums the hype didn't win me over. Jesus and Mary Chain did it better in the 80's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 10:07:07 GMT -5
The Wall by Pink Floyd.
What!? Neon Bible is a great, great album! (though I'm sure many would say the same re. The Wall tbf.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 10:09:55 GMT -5
Some of the later Beatles albums imo
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Post by lahaine on Feb 20, 2013 10:12:28 GMT -5
The Wall by Pink Floyd. What!? Neon Bible is a great, great album! (though I'm sure many would say the same re. The Wall tbf.) the probelm with The Wall is a Rich Rock star whining just makes me sick plus for me once Syd Barret left the Floyd they weren't the same. Neon Bible does nothing for me, just lacks the spark for me. I think Furenal and The Suburbs are excellent albums though. |
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Post by lahaine on Feb 20, 2013 10:14:14 GMT -5
Some of the later Beatles albums imo Are we talking 67 to 70 Let it Be i agree with utter rubbish apart from the odd track But Abbey Road and The White Album are awesome albums. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 10:34:02 GMT -5
Some of the later Beatles albums imo Are we talking 67 to 70 Let it Be i agree with utter rubbish apart from the odd track But Abbey Road and The White Album are awesome albums. yeh, when John Lennon stopped writing meaningful, normal lyrics and started experimenting with all kinds of new music and moods. All of them really to an extentI think get better reviews because it is The Beatles, Let It Be got a 4.5 star rating off Allmusic, Abbey Road got either 5 out of 5 or 10 out of 10 for every single review on wikipedia and in my opinion there is some real dross on that album like Mean Mr. Mustard, Polythene Pan and Maxwell's Silver Hammer that if written by Oasis would probably be criticised for and The White Album had Revolution 9 on it. I love The Beatles and there are some great songs on these albums but in my opinion they are very overrated |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 11:23:45 GMT -5
MGMT- Oracular Spectacular Apart from the singles theres way too much filler on this. too much praise was heaped onto this but apart from the singles (Time to Pretend,Kids and Electric Feel) does anyone ever mention other tracks. No cause they suck. Pearl Jam-Ten Just shocks me this outsold Nevermind and that shows me at times America really sucks when it comes to music. Eddie Vedder just leaves me cold as a singer and his continiung whining didn't help thank god Oasis came along and saved the day. Radiohead-Ok computer Its more for the fact its always number 1 in the greatest album of all time list. Is it better then Pet sounds, Revelvor, The Stone Roses, Never Mind the Bollocks, Exile on main Sreet? is it fuck, its very good but the Bend pisses over it. Arcade Fire- Neon bible Awful follow up to their Debut album Furenal yet critics still threw praise upon it. The Velvet Underground WhiteLight/White heat Compared to other Underground albums the hype didn't win me over. Jesus and Mary Chain did it better in the 80's. Ten is a fantastic album, worthy of the praise it gets. You are wrong though, Nevermind has out sold Ten in the US and abroad. I think America was great during this era. Rock bands and alternative bands selling 10 million albums. That is a good thing in my opinion. Alternative bands were cool and dozens and dozen of artists went platinum. You don't see that happen in America since 2000. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 11:25:06 GMT -5
The Wall by Pink Floyd. What!? Neon Bible is a great, great album! (though I'm sure many would say the same re. The Wall tbf.) Yeah Neon Bible is quality work. If anything it has been underrated. I don't hear too many people speak of it anymore. It is always Funeral and The Suburbs which get the praise which is understandable. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 11:33:09 GMT -5
Compared to other Underground albums the hype didn't win me over. Jesus and Mary Chain did it better in the 80's. Ten is a fantastic album, worthy of the praise it gets. You are wrong though, Nevermind has out sold Ten in the US and abroad. I think America was great during this era. Rock bands and alternative bands selling 10 million albums. That is a good thing in my opinion. Alternative bands were cool and dozens and dozen of artists went platinum. You don't see that happen in America since 2000. Ten: 13x Platinum Nevermind: 10x Platinum |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 11:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 11:52:57 GMT -5
Funny that article about 'Ten' getting to 10 million, also lists all 10 million selling albums, and Nevermind is not on that list. Also, you Nirvana album article says this: Nirvana’s “Nevermind” climbs to the 10 million level. It is one of four alternative rock albums at the 10 million mark, alongside U2’s “The Joshua Tree,” Pearl Jam’s “Ten,” and Green Day’s “Dookie.” RIAA Platinum certifications are for units shipped, while Nielsen Soundscan is for actual units sold. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 11:56:31 GMT -5
Funny that article about 'Ten' getting to 10 million, also lists all 10 million selling albums, and Nevermind is not on that list. RIAA Platinum certifications are for units shipped, while Nielsen Soundscan is for actual units sold. I apologize for the misunderstanding. I didn't realize RIAA and soundscan counted albums "sold" different. I guess with news today that Pearl Jam finally sold 10 million copies of Ten today I was a little thrown off. That list is actually missing a ton of huge selling albums. The more and more I look at album sales in America the more I'm realizing there are massive discrepancies between lists, articles and companies collecting this data. I still think it is a great achievement to have Nirvana, Pearl Jam and U2 all sell 10 million albums from LPs in 1991. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 12:06:50 GMT -5
Now that I am learning the difference between RIAA awards and Soundscan sales, I'm starting to realize Be Here Now might not have really sold a million copies in America. Thanks @kitjenson  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 12:22:35 GMT -5
Now that I am learning the difference between RIAA awards and Soundscan sales, I'm starting to realize Be Here Now might not have really sold a million copies in America. Thanks @kitjenson Does it's sales figures really determine the albums worth to you? It doesn't to me. Love the album, screw those who don't. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 12:43:47 GMT -5
Now that I am learning the difference between RIAA awards and Soundscan sales, I'm starting to realize Be Here Now might not have really sold a million copies in America. Thanks @kitjenson Does it's sales figures really determine the albums worth to you? It doesn't to me. Love the album, screw those who don't. No it doesn't. Not at all. Was only making a joke because it didn't really "sell" a million despite it being billed as one during the BHN era. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 12:51:57 GMT -5
For me the big one has to be Blonde on BLonde. I'm a Dylan fanatic, own all his stuff and have a pile of bootlegs as well. I just feel there is too much filler on BOB. If Bob had cut it down to ten or eleven tracks it would be a masterpiece in my eyes the way Highway 61 Revisited is. Nirvana's Nevermind as well. It has some cracking tunes on it and I do still play it the odd time. In Utero for me is Cobains masterpiece. Dark, brooding, and harsh. The lyrics come from the soul of a man who knows it will all be over soon. I feel it gets overlooked by people in favour of Nevermind. I know some might disagree but that's just my two cents! I think I know more people that love In Utero over Nevermind. Glad to know this isn't just a trend in the great state of New Jersey. Lennon I messages you my review mate |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 12:53:29 GMT -5
Bon jovi - New Jersey
It was so huge yet I don't get it
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2013 13:52:13 GMT -5
Bon jovi - New Jersey It was so huge yet I don't get it I loathe Bon Jovi despite being born and raised in New Jersey. I dig Springsteen, especially his early work. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 14:15:19 GMT -5
Bon jovi - New Jersey It was so huge yet I don't get it I loathe Bon Jovi despite being born and raised in New Jersey. I dig Springsteen, especially his early work. Ditto love bruce especially all his work from asbury to river know he went pop for awhile with USA and human touch but still gave great great 4 hour plus shows truly the hardest working act I ever saw and I saw alot....as for Bon jovi I agree as well don't get it but I will say this he is a nice guy back in 90 height of his fame a buddy of mine died at 24 he was loaded the parents owned the biggest salumeria on Staten Island ( Italian deli) they lived next store to Bon jovi he got all his food from them for years probably still does anyway he was at funeral all 3 days and went to burial and gathering afterward very low key down to earth approachable regular guy ,no bullshit still hate his music but respect his personality |
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Post by Ash & Debris on Feb 20, 2013 15:33:48 GMT -5
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LoL what? Pink Floyd didn't even hit their strides till long after Barrett. David Gilmour IS the Pink Floyd sound.
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