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Basically their early albums were all progressions from the sound Syd had started on Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. A Saucerful Of Secrets, More, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle all still have the basic psychedelic sound that Syd pioneered.

Dark Side and Wish You Were Here as said by the band themselves were complete team efforts. Gilmour himself has stated that Waters was the driving force of the music than anyone else. Then Animals which I consider a masterpiece is the last great Floyd album. If you hear Piper and then switch to Animals you will get the connection. Animals is a prog rock version of the first album and Waters had written 3/4 of the album.

The Wall and The Final Cut are IMO over and under rated respectively. The Final Cut though lacking musically is still a great album. Both dominated by Waters rather than Gilmour who took a back seat.

A Momentary Lapse Of Reason is a disaster known as 80's music. Too poppy and drum machines used all over the place. Dogs Of War is probably one of the worst songs ever written IMO and that was the one Floyd album where Gilmour dictated business. The Division Bell on the other hand is a great album. The band started contributing to the music and because of the inclusion of Wright we got a beautiful album layered with keyboards and touches of ambient music. This album also contains some of Gilmour's best work but despite being good songs they are not the 'Floyd sound' as you put it.

Gilmour basically had only one album where he did everything himself and that album i.e. A Momentary Lapse is a complete disaster from start to finish. So saying David Gilmour is the Pink Floyd sound is a very uninformed statement to say the least. He may have contributed to the sound but he is in no way The Pink Floyd Sound.

Sorry for the rant, didn't realize I had gone on for so long.

Cheers!

Hahaha...I remember that knife line from Crocodile Dundee. I just wish I was around in 05-07 to see one of your rants. Sounds exciting!

Just a combination of like 10 pricks especially that fucking twat of asshole maketradefair e that got under my fucking skin ..add that too a ton of coke and vodka and I went of chowder ill tell u this and you or anyone can look it up I gave out all.my info over the site and invited any of those pricks to meet at mustang Sally for a chat . And when I went to uk by myself Iosted where I would be staying so any one in the London or Dublin area that hated me could chat me up the Scottish boys back then were game to have my back in case it was too out of hand but sadly no one showed all talk no balls too many pricks like that love to be a wiseass motherfucker but call them on it and you get no fun kicking there lame ass that's why alot of people liked me and more hated me could care less as long as I knew I was backing up everything I said I was cool with it these days I just laugh at some of these assholes who try to ruin the forum plus Diane wouldn't appreciate the shenanigans and I know Bruno you know I don't want that mate

Somehow I fucked that post up 2 beonsome you got taste dude

Gotta just slightly disagree led zep was is and always will be best fucking band ever then those 3 in any order JMO. It's just if u lok at it they had all 4 musicians in anyone's top 3 for there instrument / vocal. Plant considered by many number 1 Page easily in top 3 bonham widely considered 1 at worst 2 to moon the loon even moon thought gonzo was better. And jonsey is unparalleled in base / organ/ piano

No problem anyone that can talk music intelligently got taste whether not always agree or not that's what makes it rock and roll man ,,,good job

Same three for me! Been listening to the Beatles since I was 7. Got into Floyd in high school and spent most of college listening to them. And well, Oasis are just fucking Oasis, been there since I was 11.

Oh and I never thru away tix didnt get refund I still got them in my storage locker in NYC in glass case along with my pics of me and Diane from kindergarten thru prom plus all my other shit those are the only tix I never refunded couldnt do it MSG red tix for zep fuckin still gutted oh and your dad sounds cool my buddy's dad used to convert all the guidos who loved disco back then to rock by simply playing them zep 1 and 2 plus physical it's all he needed and no more guidos in neighborhood they all converted to real music

Massive disappointment! Zepp are brilliant, there first four albums are pretty much flawless. Some the later stuff is also great.

Very true actually all there studio lps except prescence which was jimmy occult phase I consider flawless and presence had achillies last stand greatest drum line ever bonzo at his absolute power plus nobody's fault but mine other than that except for live lp the only other two lps are houses of the holy and in thru outdoor both flawless to me as well but not to everyone

must read!!!! Read it like ten times cover to cover

I can give you A Saucerful Of Secrets, More (though this one is highly debatable, this is when they started to abandon that Syd-like randomness for more cohesive songs and melody),Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother (highly debatable again, Gilmour started to nail down his trademark sound on his guitar here).

But I definitely can't agree with Meddle being a progression of what Syd Barert started. Just listen to Echoes (quite possibly the greatest Pink Floyd song) what makes that song is the vocal harmonies between Rich Wright and David Gulmour along with Gilmour's godly guitar work. This album was a complete departure from what Syd started and was the springboard to three straight uber classic and era defining albums.

I think you may be confusing music with lyrics. Waters was never the driving force behind the music, however he always was the driving force behind Pink Floyd LYRICS. When you talk about Pink Floyd "sound" - the first thing most people would identify is the expressive , tasty guitar phrasings mixed with the melancholic sonic background that Wrighr provides with his keyboard (again, Echoes is a perfect illustration of this, the epitome of Pink Floyd imo).

As much as Im thankful for Syd, Pink Floyd as the classic powerhouse bank we know them as today, didnt become that band until long after Syd Barert was out of the picture, he virtually had zero musical impact on the classic era of Pink Floyd (Meddle through Animals). And yes I know WYWH was conceptually inspired by Syd, but the music was always consistently driven by Gilmour's guitar wizardry during that era more so than anything else. There's no better example of that than Animals. The song Dogs almost take up half of the record - and it is entirely a Gilmour composition.

As a result of Gilmour having such a stamp over these records, Waters became insecure and sought more power. Which led to the slightly overrated The Wall. Wright was essentially out of the band at this point and Gilmour had to fight for his contributions (I.e the rock elements). Just think, if Waters had his way, a quintessential song like Confortably Numb would have been unrecognizanle today, Waters wanted it to be a full on opera song before Gilmour made his mark with his sound.

And I fully agree with you that A Momentary Lapse of Reason is a total abomination. However you're discrediting Gilmour too much for that album and not giving him enough credit for The Division Bell, which as you said, was indeed is a beautiful album. Yes Rick Wright was brought back but Gilmour was still by and large the main force behind the record.

What I attribute to the overblown AMLOR is Gilmour's cocaine use more than anything else. In a way, that album is Pink Floyd's Be Here Now, only not half as good. If you're questioning Gilmour's musical ability to make a good record by himself then I highly recommend that you check out all 3 of his solo albums, especially the self-titled one.

So yeah, I stand by what I said. Pink Floyd didnt hit their strides until long after Barett, and David Gilmour (who's often cited as one of the best guitarists in history, whereas the rest of the guys weren't exactly virtuosos of their instruments) was the primarily force behind the Pink Floyd sound. Im not exactly being earth-shattering here with this statement, most PF fans I know share the same sentiment.

P.S: it should be noted that Roger Waters is one of the greatest lyricist of all time - but Gilmour and Wright had far more to do in creating that classic Pink Floyd sound.