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Post by NYR on Sept 12, 2012 19:25:23 GMT -5
if noel doesn't give a shit about his fans, why should i, a fan, give a shit about him?
now i'm kind of pissed i spent good money for a fucking box to put my singles in.
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Post by MasterplanMatt on Sept 12, 2012 19:58:22 GMT -5
After the iTunes gig yo can clearly see he does give a shit by interacting a lot with them.
He just speaks a lot of shit but don't we all?!
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Post by NYR on Sept 12, 2012 22:27:49 GMT -5
He just speaks a lot of shit but don't we all?! he tends to say things that can get him into trouble. this time, though, he ran his mouth about his fans. fuck that. most of the people here have spent too much money on him and his music to be spoken about that way. he deserves every bit of the pressure that fans are putting on him for his comments.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2012 22:33:29 GMT -5
He just speaks a lot of shit but don't we all?! he tends to say things that can get him into trouble. this time, though, he ran his mouth about his fans. fuck that. most of the people here have spent too much money on him and his music to be spoken about that way. he deserves every bit of the pressure that fans are putting on him for his comments. Please tell me you're joking, right?
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Post by gdforever on Sept 12, 2012 23:03:06 GMT -5
11 words erasing 18 years of appreciation. That's a bit sad. As much as Noel shouldn't have phrased it like he did...the outrage and vitriol is a bit much. Particularly since it obviously wasn't aimed at insulting the fans. It was only meant to put a definitive bullet in the reunion thing since the only reason for a reunion would be fan demand.
He can say a million time what a kick he gets out of the people coming out the gigs and singing along. Mention the fans in dozens of award speeches. Clap for the fans while leaving the stage. Play a song because the people that have gone to gigs have called out for it (something that I genuinely never expected him to do). Have playful repartee with them at the gigs. Sign autographs and t-shirt and albums.
But he says something harsh in frustration of a question that has gone on for a year and he is sick of and the whole fan base goes ape shit and spiteful despite the fact that everyone on this thread agrees that he actually does appreciate his fans but said something hyperbolic and stupid.
I think part of the reason that some are SO upset is because Noel is refusing to reform Oasis and is sticking to his guns.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 13, 2012 9:01:13 GMT -5
I wish people would start to accept that Oasis is not going to reunite in 3 years time or probably forever. Noel has no reason to do it. He is now a very successful solo artist and doesn't need the headaches Liam brought him over the years. Plus Noel will probably be touring his next solo album around that time. No room for Oasis.
I can see why Liam wants Oasis back. Beady Eye isn't going like he hoped it would. It seems critics and the record buying masses went with Noel. I was lucky enough to see Oasis 11 times between the years of 1997-2008. I saw some great gigs and some ok ones (mostly towards the end). Now I am really enjoying their life outside of Oasis. More material and gigs to attend but to each their own I suppose.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Sept 13, 2012 9:46:29 GMT -5
He just speaks a lot of shit but don't we all?! he tends to say things that can get him into trouble. this time, though, he ran his mouth about his fans. fuck that. most of the people here have spent too much money on him and his music to be spoken about that way. he deserves every bit of the pressure that fans are putting on him for his comments. Wise up. Talk about an overreaction.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 13, 2012 10:01:10 GMT -5
Its a shame some of you can't accept that for a lot of people this really has nothing to do with Oasis getting back together. Its more to do with the implication of the comment and if people believe he meant it they might find it insulting. I think thats completely reasonable.
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Post by Rolo on Sept 13, 2012 17:03:30 GMT -5
Tom is completely right. Some of you will defend him no matter what, it was very wrong of him to say what he said, I don't blame people getting offended by it, I'm annoyed at the comment myself. Why some of you are trying to twist his comment to make out he wasn't in the wrong is baffling, it was an idiotic thing to say, end of.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 13, 2012 21:27:39 GMT -5
It's called: Putting his quote into context.....
If those who are taking his quote at face value truly believe he doesn't appreciate his fans, then I'm lost for words. Congratulations, you have finally silenced NL4E.
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Post by NYR on Sept 13, 2012 22:34:30 GMT -5
oh, please. it has nothing to do with the group's reunion (or lack thereof). it's a red herring, and no amount of ad hominem attacks is going to change that. you people are crazy if you truly believe that's why fans are upset.
tom said it more eloquently than i could have, so i'll just leave it at that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 15:13:03 GMT -5
I'm sure had Liam said something similar, many of the presently "outraged" parties would have defended it much in the same way Noel-leaning fans are now.
You know it's true.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 17:03:51 GMT -5
I'm sure had Liam said something similar, many of the presently "outraged" parties would have defended it much in the same way Noel-leaning fans are now. You know it's true. Yes but there are a lot more people who constantly stick up for Noel than the amount of people who stick up for Liam all the time. You know it's true
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Post by leak4ever on Sept 15, 2012 17:11:44 GMT -5
I'm sure had Liam said something similar, many of the presently "outraged" parties would have defended it much in the same way Noel-leaning fans are now. You know it's true. Yes but there are a lot more people who constantly stick up for Noel than the amount of people who stick up for Liam all the time. You know it's true That's because Noel is better than Liam in just about every way.
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Post by NYR on Sept 15, 2012 17:26:36 GMT -5
I'm sure had Liam said something similar, many of the presently "outraged" parties would have defended it much in the same way Noel-leaning fans are now. You know it's true. liam skipped out the american leg of their '96 tour to look at houses. i think he's grown up since then, in his defense. that was 16 years ago and he looks and acts like he genuinely cares about the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2012 18:19:47 GMT -5
I'm sure had Liam said something similar, many of the presently "outraged" parties would have defended it much in the same way Noel-leaning fans are now. You know it's true. Yes but there are a lot more people who constantly stick up for Noel than the amount of people who stick up for Liam all the time. You know it's true Possibly. But they don't cry about it and sulk anywhere near as much.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 16, 2012 17:41:11 GMT -5
Yes but there are a lot more people who constantly stick up for Noel than the amount of people who stick up for Liam all the time. You know it's true Possibly. But they don't cry about it and sulk anywhere near as much. hmmm.....the amount of time you spend in the Beady Eye section would suggest otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 17:51:21 GMT -5
Tommy boy jumping in for a cry too. Who'd have thunk it. Umad?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 16, 2012 18:10:53 GMT -5
Not really, just pointing out the obvious. Proved by you having nothing to say.
Umad?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 18:11:55 GMT -5
Would be if I looked like you
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 16, 2012 18:21:25 GMT -5
You've proved you can use google. A picture of me is hardly going to make me mad now is it. Try harder.
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Post by NYR on Sept 16, 2012 22:11:03 GMT -5
tomlivesforever, epiphone100, please stop bickering. thanks.
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Post by leak4ever on Sept 18, 2012 5:54:53 GMT -5
If you go to google images and search for tomlivesforever, the first two images are hilarious.
This first is his real face. The second is him in "Liam" mode.
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Post by mattyo on Sept 18, 2012 6:09:13 GMT -5
I do wonder whether Noel actually realises what he's saying sometimes. In both the Cardiff and Nottingham interviews he blames Liam for trying to sue him. Now from what I gather Liam tried to sue Noel because he said that Liam just didn't bother to turn up to the V Festival.
Now, if I was Liam I would be mightily pissed off. People have got to remember, 90% of the fanbase believe and hang on every word Noel says so if Liam hadn't of done anything everybody would have just assumed it was Liam being Liam, rather than telling the truth and saying that he had laryngitis.
Stop lying Noel, it doesn't become you.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 18, 2012 6:17:38 GMT -5
If you go to google images and search for tomlivesforever, the first two images are hilarious. This first is his real face. The second is him in "Liam" mode. I like having a stalker and a fan tbh, its good for the soul.
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