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Post by mkoasis on Feb 28, 2012 20:36:12 GMT -5
Well, parts of it I like a lot. What we heard when the band walked onstage, for instance, was great. You know, the "aaaAAAAhhhhhh" part with the guitar? Brilliant. There's other great bits in there.
But I feel it goes on too long and you start to wonder how much is left. I am glad its only 8 mins and not 22 like the FD one. I think it would have been more than satisfactory at 5 mins. Get in, blow the listener away, and get out.
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Post by Cast on Feb 28, 2012 22:13:32 GMT -5
this is pretty great. It's what I've been dying to here from Noel, finally taking some serious risks musically.
My only complaints are that even if it is a chilled out groove, I feel it needed to build up a bit more and explode into some sort of way. It's a bit on the repetitive side. Also it doesn't take advantage of the beautiful "Cause you're the only" part of the song enough but its a very promising start to a collaboration that could lead to some outstanding results. When I get my hands on some mj and stick on my quality headphones I'll be able to give it proper judgement. Love the bass and the drums, something that was lacking in HFB's to a degree was imaginative musicianship. I understand in Noel's kinkys tunes the bass and the drums aren't really the main instruments but its nice to here a groovin bassline thrown in there to get those heads moving up and down.
Also I'm loving the fact its dividing some fans. I'm sorry some of you don't enjoy it but I'm so thankful Noel is branching out a bit. This record could be something special if Noel has the songs and the AA boys treat them right. I'm liking the fact that Noel is taking his time with this record because it means he is taking this record seriously and if its a success it'll shut up a lot of critics but more importantly it'll shed a light a different side of Noel's genius.
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Post by petedaley on Feb 28, 2012 23:03:54 GMT -5
Wow, stop saying "shoot a hole in the sun" ...
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Post by spaneli on Feb 28, 2012 23:48:27 GMT -5
this is pretty great. It's what I've been dying to here from Noel, finally taking some serious risks musically. My only complaints are that even if it is a chilled out groove, I feel it needed to build up a bit more and explode into some sort of way. It's a bit on the repetitive side. Also it doesn't take advantage of the beautiful "Cause you're the only" part of the song enough but its a very promising start to a collaboration that could lead to some outstanding results. When I get my hands on some mj and stick on my quality headphones I'll be able to give it proper judgement. Love the bass and the drums, something that was lacking in HFB's to a degree was imaginative musicianship. I understand in Noel's kinkys tunes the bass and the drums aren't really the main instruments but its nice to here a groovin bassline thrown in there to get those heads moving up and down. Also I'm loving the fact its dividing some fans. I'm sorry some of you don't enjoy it but I'm so thankful Noel is branching out a bit. This record could be something special if Noel has the songs and the AA boys treat them right. I'm liking the fact that Noel is taking his time with this record because it means he is taking this record seriously and if its a success it'll shut up a lot of critics but more importantly it'll shed a light a different side of Noel's genius. This is why you're one of the best posters on this forum. Pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly. I know that Noel has always said that he has his comfort level and he feels that he doesn't need to leave it and I get that. But in the back of my mind I have always found it troubling for Noel to be an artist or a songwriter, and not want to stretch himself. Not want push himself and explore his craft. I'm not asking for Noel to stretch himself on every album, but I'd like to see him do it just once. On one album. For him to shed a different light on himself and not always be a parody. A brilliant and genius paradoy, but a parady nonetheless. And I agree that if done right this album could be something very special. Something that we'll probably never get another chance to see or hear from any Gallagher ever. I don't know, as a fan I'd just like to have something else to point to to describe Noel's genius other than MG or DM or his melodic songwriting in general. I've always wanted to see if Noel could put himself in another realm and still retain that special aspect or quality that comes from his songs. Does his magic come from a tried and tested method/system or is it innate? Is he brilliant in any setting? I'm hoping the AA album will answer these questions, and I'm hoping that the answer is yes to all said questions.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 29, 2012 2:08:06 GMT -5
...nothing more than elevator music for people on acid, rubbish Noel, rubbish ... Not looming forward to this album at all now
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Post by jilliam on Feb 29, 2012 2:18:43 GMT -5
Just finally got around to listening to this cack. Well not fully cack but nothing special. IMO the song isn't good enough on its on bc I have to blaze to try and get me to dig it. I mean maybe if Noel's gonna try and pass a psychedelic album maybe he should be trippin to get a more genuine product and not this constrained effort....any in event, let me fire up the volcano and vaporize some high THC herb and give this puppy a listen, I'll even put on headphones.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2012 2:39:26 GMT -5
I just can't imagine any circumstance where I'd want to listen to that.
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Post by carlober on Feb 29, 2012 2:52:34 GMT -5
Boring first part, but after the 4 minutes mark it's great. Not a song you'd listen everyday on your way to work, obviously.
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 29, 2012 2:53:38 GMT -5
You gotta try something new and take a risk at some point in your life.
Well done, Noel Gallagher.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 29, 2012 2:55:49 GMT -5
I just can't imagine any circumstance where I'd want to listen to that. Maybe when you're high... It's ok, but kinda boring. Just as i predicted it's 4 mins too long. they read the "how to make a pseudo pyschedelic record for dumbass" book and applied every single instrument needed for that kinda record. Or wait, the backwards guitars aren't present, my apology. If the rest of the record is like that, it better be not released really.
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Post by wooboos on Feb 29, 2012 4:38:00 GMT -5
I played it to my friend who likes weird nonsense like Radiohead, and all he said was "This is a dull remix." Couldn't agree with him any more. Come on Noel, you're better than this. . you asked your friend you likes radiohead?!?! sounds like a great bloke...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by Bellboy on Feb 29, 2012 5:12:59 GMT -5
It's alright. I really like the guitars from 3:55 in. Although it is a bit reptitive I don't hate it.
Pink Floyd anyone?
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 29, 2012 5:35:03 GMT -5
people aren't really open minded in music here. it's not the best thing ever but it isn't shite also. it's psychedelic music. i wonder if some people ever heard ummagumma or paper of the gates of dawn by pink floyd
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Post by andymorris on Feb 29, 2012 5:44:40 GMT -5
It's not about being open minded or anything. I love Noel and i support his desire to do something new, but when it's not good, it's not good, it has to be said. Now if the rest of the record is different, with ideas and not just half arsed pseudo-psyche remixes, then fine.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Feb 29, 2012 5:52:12 GMT -5
I think its quite interesting for a b-side, wouldn't bother to hear a totally original song (not a remix...) produced by these guys...
In other hand, not sure if Im going to like a whole album like this... as been mentioned here is kind of repetitive and lacks an explosion as Cast mentioned....
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Post by andymorris on Feb 29, 2012 5:53:58 GMT -5
It's an honest bside, we'll agree on that.
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 29, 2012 5:54:00 GMT -5
it's not a remix ffs. he gave the song separately to them to produce it. anyway, i love noel for doing this. it's something different, nothing for the casual oasis-fan, and i'm fine with that. i'm even more looking forward to the album now.
my only hope is that the AA-album will be a bit more experimental than this. a bit more extrem in the animal collective way
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Post by wooboos on Feb 29, 2012 5:55:32 GMT -5
i like it, i think the last minute it can do without, but love the guitar groove and the drums are mega.
cant wait for the album
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Post by truefaith on Feb 29, 2012 6:36:46 GMT -5
It's obvious that the AA album won't please every Oasis casual fan. It's not the point. If it's not your type of music, move on, but to say it's shit and repetitive or a simple remix is reducing.
It's a total reconstruction of a great song into another great one. It's full of idea, instruments, the guitar, the bass and the drum sounds brillant, it grooves, the production is great, it has a real atmosphere, it breathes, I agree it lacks an explosion but I'm sure the album will have some. The production of this song is far better than the HFB's production.
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 29, 2012 6:58:15 GMT -5
these songs aren't about the lyrics it's about the instrumentation. these songs are mostly grower where you can find different things on every listen which you haven't heard before. it's about creating like a story in the song. the 22min epic remix of falling down is the perfect example. it has several different parts with different aspects and singers. what some people consider to be repetitive is creative energy and if you have the endurance to find out what this music is all about you will be pleased with great music.
i personally love stuff like that more than normal pop-songs because there's always something new to find. i can listen to "the piper of the gates of dawn" for the 37462 time and i will always find something new.
especially the last two minutes of "shoot a hole in to the sun" are very interesting and i hope there's more of it on the album.
it's just not music by the pop artist noel gallagher, it's music by the artists amorphous androgynous. if some people are disappointed then they have the HFB-album which will satisfy their souls enough.
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Post by nataliemckinney on Feb 29, 2012 7:01:54 GMT -5
Listening to it now, and if I have to say, I agree with Bittersweet Split. Good to listen to once, and if it didn't have Noel's name on it, I'd have turned it off by now. Just not my thing I guess.
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Post by truefaith on Feb 29, 2012 7:02:32 GMT -5
I like the last two minutes actually, but at first listen I had a problem with the extra voice. Now I like it but I think it could have explode more.
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Post by Leezy2 on Feb 29, 2012 7:27:50 GMT -5
Really like this, well... apart from all the random voices going 'I shoot a hole in the sun' 7 mins in.
Do agree with what someone else said though, it does sound more like an entirely different song, AA probably put it together instrumentally and then got Noel in to sing some lines over the top.
Really looking forward to the album, got a feeling quite a few fans aren't gonna like it though :/
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Post by hypermyth on Feb 29, 2012 8:09:09 GMT -5
it's bit repetitive but it's good , but it's too long
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Post by truefaith on Feb 29, 2012 8:43:55 GMT -5
But if we listen some of you, Noel can't do much else than Dream on.
He can't do rockers anymore cause Liam isn't there (that's a fact). He tries to pay an hommage to 80's danse music in WAL and a lot fans dislike it. Now he makes a totally experimental album to open his music and a lot of fans dislike it. What's Noel allowed to do for you, TDOYAM over and over?
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