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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 10:50:36 GMT -5
Wow, I am appalled by the distain you people have for Noel and his touring nature. Sure he could play different songs, but the rest of the band doesn't know them like Noel. It would be like Wonderwall and Supersonic.
Not to mention, the only people who give a flying fuck about the set-list not changing are people on this forum! The rest of the common folks who go to gigs don't care because they only hear it once and then move on.
People need to chill the heck out!
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Post by headshrinker84 on Nov 25, 2011 11:23:19 GMT -5
Wow, I am appalled by the distain you people have for Noel and his touring nature. Sure he could play different songs, but the rest of the band doesn't know them like Noel. It would be like Wonderwall and Supersonic. Not to mention, the only people who give a flying fuck about the set-list not changing are people on this forum! The rest of the common folks who go to gigs don't care because they only hear it once and then move on. People need to chill the heck out! It wouldn't take long for the rest of the band to learn another oasis song, It's not like they are hard to play. I love noel but lets be honest he is a lazy bastard. |
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Nov 25, 2011 11:35:12 GMT -5
There is no excuse for an artist who plays two nights in one city to at least change one song ffs. Or even a brief solo or tease doesn't hurt. He can easily do a 1min vocal of "to be someone" from weller and that would do it for me. But its the same shit Every night. Its boring. Period.
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Post by songbirdsally on Nov 25, 2011 11:37:42 GMT -5
It's good if a band changes the setlist a bit. Even if it's only for one or two songs. It keeps it entertaining for the band, and the fans have more reason to go and see the band more than once on the same tour. I've seen Beady Eye but I'd love to see them again now to hear WOMR and ITBWAB. The 'perfect setlist' argument is true, but it's nog like anyone else but the hardcore fans will notice that there's one or two different songs.
And seeing as he has tons of songs to pick from, and that he's not even playing all his new songs and B-sides yet, I think Noel should be able to change it a bit every now and then. I hope he does at least change it for the festivals or new arena tour.
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Post by allah on Nov 25, 2011 11:40:33 GMT -5
There is no excuse for an artist who plays two nights in one city to at least change one song ffs. Or even a brief solo or tease doesn't hurt. He can easily do a 1min vocal of "to be someone" from weller and that would do it for me. But its the same shit Every night. Its boring. Period. Beady Eye do the same and Oasis did the same. I'm not sure why it's a problem now? |
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Nov 25, 2011 11:47:12 GMT -5
I'd give my left nut to go to a gig, believe me, but I'm not sure I'd be that excited about it... I've watched so many live videos that even I'm desperate for different material.
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Post by songbirdsally on Nov 25, 2011 11:48:23 GMT -5
There is no excuse for an artist who plays two nights in one city to at least change one song ffs. Or even a brief solo or tease doesn't hurt. He can easily do a 1min vocal of "to be someone" from weller and that would do it for me. But its the same shit Every night. Its boring. Period. Beady Eye do the same and Oasis did the same. I'm not sure why it's a problem now? Beady Eye is different. They don't play Oasis songs so they don't have much songs to choose from. In fact they play the whole album + B-sides. And we've even heard Across the Universe as a bonus in Japan. They opened with WOMR all of the sudden and started playing ITBWAB as well. There has been quite some change for a band that only has that many songs! Oasis should have changed up the setlist as well. They had plenty of songs to choose from. |
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Post by uboasis on Nov 25, 2011 12:05:54 GMT -5
Wow, I am appalled by the distain you people have for Noel and his touring nature. Sure he could play different songs, but the rest of the band doesn't know them like Noel. It would be like Wonderwall and Supersonic. Not to mention, the only people who give a flying fuck about the set-list not changing are people on this forum! The rest of the common folks who go to gigs don't care because they only hear it once and then move on.People need to chill the heck out! Exactly, complaining about this is like complaining about STC, Record Machine, If I Had a Gun, and Everybody's on the Run being on the album because we heard it. Noel is not writing songs for us to listen to you Youtube before they are released. Noel is not performing for people who are watching on Youtube or want variation in their bootlegs. The only people who should be upset are those that want to follow Noel around the country and see multiple shows but that wouldn't be a very good idea if you know what to expect. |
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Post by thomas09 on Nov 25, 2011 12:12:16 GMT -5
Pearl Jam are the masters of changing a setlist up! And all this stuff about "oh its too hard for the band to learn more songs" is a load of bollocks! If I was a member of a touring band for a rock star I'd make it my business to learn everyone of his songs possible. And lets face it, Oasis songs aren't that hard to play...
The fact of the matter is Noel is a lazy bastard. He doesn't do gigs for fun or for the passion but for the money. He's simply going through the motions. That's all it's about and he'd say that himself if he was asked. And I know it may only be the big fans who have complaints about this, but these big fans are the same people who've supported Noel/Oasis for god knows how long and have bought every release available.
When I go to a gig I want to experience something unique and special, and unfortunately, I don't get that feeling when I know exactly what songs will be played and in exactly what order. The gigs have absolutely zero element of suprise.
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 25, 2011 12:52:38 GMT -5
this thread is like a deja vu ;D
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 25, 2011 13:03:24 GMT -5
I think it would be alot more interesting tracking the tour and watching the tour videos if he mixed it up.
But at least you know what you are going to get when you buy a ticket. And let's face it, are you bored when you are stood there belting out Dont Look Back In Anger, Little By Little and Half The World Away? I dont think so.
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Post by Rifles on Nov 25, 2011 14:00:15 GMT -5
This is one of those things that would be a valid complaint like 10 years ago, but it's been this way for so long now it's strange to expect anything else. Of course it would be great for him to change it up, but just like he ALWAYS puts 10 tracks on his albums, he will always play the same songs for every gig. He's a stubborn dude that clearly likes the comfort of routine.
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Post by johnnyrotten on Nov 25, 2011 14:36:10 GMT -5
I would absolutely love to hear Going Nowhere, have always loved that song.
Saying that, I'm going to see Noel in April in Atlanta, an I have no problem if he plays the same setlist he's doing now, I just wanna hear Noel live.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 25, 2011 14:40:20 GMT -5
Fair enough him playing Wonderwall every gig, But surely he could change the likes of The good rebel and mucky fingers. Not a lot of people would complain. Mucky Fingers and TGR are brilliant live. And for the last time, Noel has already explained why he doesn't change the set list. His belief is that it wouldn't be fair to the fans. I think he's right, you know. |
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Post by manualex on Nov 25, 2011 14:49:10 GMT -5
this thread is like a deja vu ;D Courtesy of 2008/2009 Dig Out Your Soul world tour  |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Nov 25, 2011 15:20:52 GMT -5
I'll be a bit annoyed if it gets like the DOYS tour, where it was the same songs played in the same order with the same pre-rehearsed crowd interaction every night for 11 months, and if I ever hear the line "Hello to our 5th and final drummer Mr Chris Sharrock" again it'll be too soon.
But we're just over a month into Noel's first proper solo tour, I'm not sure what people were expecting? I haven't seen him in person yet, but from what I've seen on Youtube/the BBC gig then I'd say the gigs sound good.
Noel's gigs were always going to be lacking a bit as he doesn't have the stage presence of Liam, but there's something magic about seeing a songwriter singing his own songs in a more chilled out environment.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 25, 2011 15:43:48 GMT -5
I'm hardly outraged. Saw him twice in a row plus the acoustic show and I didn't have any complaints. Sounded great. If you don't want to pay for the same setlist again...don't go to both shows. But then SOULDIGGER loves to be outraged.
BDI have proved that even adding without subtracting tunes doesn't make a big deal for tickets sales as their recent UK tour didn't really get a massive boost and they've got more fans there than anywhere. Noel's sales won't suffer significantly IMO. There are several member of this board that weren't willing to see them again for just 2 new songs...and we are diehards.
Be nice to have a surprise for the big shows next years. I think I read that he has been playing a Dylan cover and LTLSOLAM in soundcheck so hopefully something comes of that. Or maybe brass or strings for some more interesting instrumentation.
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Post by thuperthonic on Nov 25, 2011 15:53:01 GMT -5
I'll always find it annoying, but I find it more annoying that the setlist he's chosen to go with is not a great one.
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Post by rpn101 on Nov 25, 2011 16:26:21 GMT -5
I think there is scope in the two-song acoustic part of the set for Noel to play different songs, Whatever (which I bet he plays in Japan), slide away, cast no shadow, fade away spring to mind. Other than that who really cares, very few bands change a setlist nowadays. Pearl Jam and the like are the exception not the norm.
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Post by uboasis on Nov 25, 2011 16:29:21 GMT -5
As a big fan, and if Noel was coming to my city twice, I'd be actually irritated if I knew he was going to play different sets. As a die hard, I'd feel torn between buying both shows which i wouldn't really want to do because I wouldn't want to miss certain songs.
As a fan, I prefer it this way, with a periodic change every now and then.
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Post by rickettsia on Nov 25, 2011 17:02:46 GMT -5
I think he should change the songs he plays from one night to the next. Having experienced that with Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band's last tour, I can't think of a better way to keep it alive and engaging than this one.
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Nov 25, 2011 17:13:53 GMT -5
..Gdforever, I was at all 3 toronto shows as well. I got me a cool numbered poster on the way out of the modclub for his acoustic gig. I Never said that he didn't sound great, I'm just saying to Change 1 fuckin song! Like what does it take. On the 2nd night at Massey it wouldve been epic if he came out and sang "to be someone" and for a second when he mentioned it at the beginning of the encore, I was 3rd row floor with my hands in the air! What a moment it would have been. But he told us were nuts for thinking hed actually sing it. He blew a great chance. Noel may love music, but he lacks the skills and heart to recognize how special "a rare concert moment really is". Its such a special moment to be had. And he clearly doesn't care and personally I think his show is average because it lacks that "suprise element". Oasis is different for me because the Songs are so Massive and with liam on stage it kinda makes up for the same shit every setlist.
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Post by masterplan2011 on Nov 25, 2011 17:41:27 GMT -5
Pearl Jam are the masters of changing a setlist up! And all this stuff about "oh its too hard for the band to learn more songs" is a load of bollocks! If I was a member of a touring band for a rock star I'd make it my business to learn everyone of his songs possible. And lets face it, Oasis songs aren't that hard to play... The fact of the matter is Noel is a lazy bastard. He doesn't do gigs for fun or for the passion but for the money. He's simply going through the motions. That's all it's about and he'd say that himself if he was asked. And I know it may only be the big fans who have complaints about this, but these big fans are the same people who've supported Noel/Oasis for god knows how long and have bought every release available. When I go to a gig I want to experience something unique and special, and unfortunately, I don't get that feeling when I know exactly what songs will be played and in exactly what order. The gigs have absolutely zero element of suprise. I have to agree with you here. I know I'll go to Noel in February and absolutely love it. However I know what's going to happen and there will be no surprises. Noel has such a massive catalogue of great songs yet he continues to play the same ones live. You would think he he would want to play many different Oasis songs. I always thought he would have the attitude of "I can play anything and they'll love it" but he never did it. Also, I have I agree that he seems to be going through the motions, it seems to be a bit of a chore sometimes. You can't say, he's been there and done that because he's got to realise that his days of being a God to so many are dwindling. Look at Bruce Springsteen, he still loves every moment of his gigs. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 25, 2011 18:17:02 GMT -5
You know what you people should do that are complaining about not having a surprise at the gigs?
Don't look at the set lists. If knowing the tunes ruins it for you...then don't look up what tunes he is going to play. Simple as that. If being on the board makes the experience of being a fan less exciting for you then why are you even bothering?
It is like those complaining that they had already heard the unreleased material before the album. Simple solution...if hearing unfinished songs interferes with enjoying the finished versions...don't listened to unreleased material.
This whole, "he doesn't even like playing anymore" is absolute nonsense. Noel never was and never will be an effusive or energetic performer. He wasn't in 1994, he wasn't in 2005, he isn't now. I don't know why everyone is making an issue of it now. If he didn't want to tour, he wouldn't have to tour. I don't believe for a minute he doesn't love playing those songs.
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Nov 25, 2011 18:43:03 GMT -5
I think he should change the songs he plays from one night to the next. Having experienced that with Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band's last tour, I can't think of a better way to keep it alive and engaging than this one. THIS |
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