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Post by Jessica on Aug 22, 2012 16:01:09 GMT -5
Wow. Crazy!
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 22, 2012 16:34:25 GMT -5
Just can't believe how well this album has done. But then again, its the best album he's wrote songs for since the mid 90s so it makes sense I guess. ;D Hopefully this encourages him to release albums more often! Yep, hopefully he doesn't take too long with the next batch of tunes! (Written by Noel Gallagher) is a pretty special thing. Yup. Anything less is just that. Lesser.
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Post by vespa on Aug 22, 2012 16:56:10 GMT -5
the album is very early oasis sounding hence the reason its selling well,its class and reaches a more broader audience than the last few oasis records,its easy listening,upbeat catchy and written by what many see as the greatest songwriter of his generation and up there with the very best of all time!!hes done brilliant with it,alsp the argument about oasis in the digital era,put it this way when oasis were at there peak there was noone bigger simple really,altho they didnt have the biggest selling album that year as a package,sales,singles,tours etc they were by far the biggest most hyped band since the 60s!!if you were to put the digital era into that 90s period they would quite frankly have doubled every album total,but as someone said back then you had to physically go out and buy singles and albums now you just sit there and buy online what you want at discount prices,adele would not have sold as many if itunes hadnt been around,and you would have a music scene today,bring back the old ways!!
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Post by gdforever on Aug 22, 2012 18:07:01 GMT -5
Oh come on. It's well accepted that artists sell fewer rather than more albums post digital era.
Once upon a time the only way you could get a quality recording of an album was to buy the album. Now 20 ppl can a friends CD. Or download it off the Internet.
They may have been able to see more singles though. Who knows.
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Post by deasy on Aug 22, 2012 18:16:50 GMT -5
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Post by wendysd on Aug 23, 2012 2:43:25 GMT -5
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Post by wendysd on Aug 23, 2012 2:44:51 GMT -5
When Oasis were at their biggest people still had to physically get up, go to a shop, and buy a record. It's not that way anymore. New artist have that advantage over those of the past, especially those from the 80's and 90's who's records are not old enough to be considered nostalgic to buy them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 7:22:16 GMT -5
the album is very early oasis sounding hence the reason its selling well,its class and reaches a more broader audience than the last few oasis records,its easy listening,upbeat catchy and written by what many see as the greatest songwriter of his generation and up there with the very best of all time!! Spot on. HFB is the closest Noel's come to recapturing that vintage Oasis sound (Definitely Maybe thru Be Here Now) that many of us fell in love with at the time. It's the kind of classic Noel Gallagher music that I've been waiting *years* for. I think that's why it's getting great word of mouth. It sounds like Oasis when they were pop/rock before they became generic. (And I shall now await the people to shoot my personal opinion down...)
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Post by spaneli on Aug 23, 2012 12:20:54 GMT -5
Yep. This album is huge success and to say "well it hasn't sold as much as DBTT" is ignoring the fact DBTT came out 7 years ago. Album sales were higher and if HFB's were released 7 years ago, it would have a good chance of being the most successful Gallagher related album in terms of UK sales, since BHN. Even now, HFB's has a good chance of passing SOTSOG and becoming 6th highest selling Gallagher/Oasis related studio album and the 7th largest selling Oasis album overall. That's purely amazing in today's day and age.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 23, 2012 13:06:46 GMT -5
Oasis albums used to sell massively then drop quickly due to the massive Oasis fanbase. HFB is selling well due to non-Oasis fans. That's far more impressive.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 23, 2012 13:14:53 GMT -5
Yep. This album is huge success and to say "well it hasn't sold as much as DBTT" is ignoring the fact DBTT came out 7 years ago. Album sales were higher and if HFB's were released 7 years ago, it would have a good chance of being the most successful Gallagher related album in terms of UK sales, since BHN. Even now, HFB's has a good chance of passing SOTSOG and becoming 6th highest selling Gallagher/Oasis related studio album and the 7th largest selling Oasis album overall. That's purely amazing in today's day and age. Illegal download was already massive in 2005. DBTT sold very well wolrdwilde, the tour was the biggest they ever did, it woudn't have been the case without the succes of the album. And DBTT was oline illegally long before its release unlike HFB. Don't diminish DBTT's succes by speculation and what if, dbtt was a great succes. HFB is a great succes in the uk.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 23, 2012 15:25:23 GMT -5
Yep. This album is huge success and to say "well it hasn't sold as much as DBTT" is ignoring the fact DBTT came out 7 years ago. Album sales were higher and if HFB's were released 7 years ago, it would have a good chance of being the most successful Gallagher related album in terms of UK sales, since BHN. Even now, HFB's has a good chance of passing SOTSOG and becoming 6th highest selling Gallagher/Oasis related studio album and the 7th largest selling Oasis album overall. That's purely amazing in today's day and age. Illegal download was already massive in 2005. DBTT sold very well wolrdwilde, the tour was the biggest they ever did, it woudn't have been the case without the succes of the album. And DBTT was oline illegally long before its release unlike HFB. Don't diminish DBTT's succes by speculation and what if, dbtt was a great succes. HFB is a great succes in the uk. Not at the same rate. There are plenty of sites you can google to see the decrease in record sales since 2005. One could definitely speculate that even on the conservative side of estimates, that HFB's would have sold as much as DBTT if released in 2005. And that's a conservative estimate when one sees how much the sales of physical copies and albums have decreased. And no one is diminshing DBTT's success. Those are your words, not mine. Find the place where I said DBTT wasn't successful. This is isn't opinion, this is fact: 2005 was a far better and conducive market to sell physical copies and albums in general. The music industry is far different today for artists trying to sell albums than it was 7 years ago. I really didn't think that point was debatable.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 23, 2012 15:36:01 GMT -5
Why is this even an argument? Album sales has declined massively in the best decade. Recently, the number one album sold 9000 copies. That says it all.
All Noel can do it sell more than his contemporaries, regardless of how many copies that may be.
Edit: Oh, it's truefaith again, stirring up things.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 23, 2012 15:36:35 GMT -5
Illegal download was already massive in 2005. DBTT sold very well wolrdwilde, the tour was the biggest they ever did, it woudn't have been the case without the succes of the album. And DBTT was oline illegally long before its release unlike HFB. Don't diminish DBTT's succes by speculation and what if, dbtt was a great succes. HFB is a great succes in the uk. Not at the same rate. There are plenty of sites you can google to see the decrease in record sales since 2005. One could definitely speculate that even on the conservative side of estimates, that HFB's would have sold as much as DBTT if released in 2005. And that's a conservative estimate when one sees how much the sales of physical copies and albums have decreased. And no one is diminshing DBTT's success. Those are your words, not mine. Find the place where I said DBTT wasn't successful. This is isn't opinion, this is fact: 2005 was a far better and conducive market to sell physical copies and albums in general. The music industry is far different today for artists trying to sell albums than it was 7 years ago. I really didn't think that point was debatable. I don't really agree with that with big artist. I think it's the same. In 2005, everyone was dowloading illegally, it was very easy. And as far as I remember the itune store was a new thing, it wasn't a common thing to buy album on the internet. It was mainly either downloading or buying the cd, and there was no deezer, no youtube. (How fast does the world change ?) so of course major artist like Oasis were very very much downloaded. Same now, except that itunes store has increased and physical release has dropped, but in the end, the amount of illegal downloading might be the same.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 24, 2012 2:26:34 GMT -5
Good old truefaith. Arguing with fact. Back to the BDI section for you. This part of the forum hasn't been ruined yet and we'd like to keep it that way. Thanks
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Post by truefaith on Aug 24, 2012 4:14:45 GMT -5
Good old truefaith. Arguing with fact. Back to the BDI section for you. This part of the forum hasn't been ruined yet and we'd like to keep it that way. Thanks I'm debating about illegal downloading? What's the matter with you? So I'm not allowed to say anything in this secion other than "Noel is god". I just debating about a subject here and giving my opinion. YOU'RE ATTACKING ME FOR NO REASON YOU'RE RUINING YOUR THREAD.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2012 4:19:42 GMT -5
This "Noel is God" stuff is all in your head, mate.
You're annoyed at something you made up. Hahaha!
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Post by truefaith on Aug 24, 2012 4:26:21 GMT -5
This "Noel is God" stuff is all in your head, mate. You're annoyed at something you made up. Hahaha! then why is he attacking me there? What in my post gives him the right to ask me to "go back in my BDI section"? Really, after people call me trouble maker, but I can't post anything without some annoying posting attaking me. Think about it, you do it too.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 24, 2012 5:08:36 GMT -5
What the heck are you doing here truefaith? You criticise me being a troll, when you're no better yourself.
At least my trolling is based on my opinion. This isn't even an opinion. It's a fact that album sales have gone down. Stop being a hypocrite and crawl back to the whole you came from.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 24, 2012 5:19:54 GMT -5
What the heck are you doing here truefaith? You criticise me being a troll, when you're no better yourself. At least my trolling is based on my opinion. This isn't even an opinion. It's a fact that album sales have gone down. Stop being a hypocrite and crawl back to the whole you came from. Now if you want to listen to an album, you ave deezer, youtube, you don't even need to dowload it illegally. In 2005, it was either buying or downloading it. The illegal dowloading was huge and the album was available on it month before its release. Nowdays you can buy the cd, buy some songs on itunes, listen to it on deezer or youtube. It's hard to compare 2005 or 2012, the game have changed but for big artist, listenig to their music instead of buying the cd was already made in 2005. If you compare with sales in the 90's, the game is different, but with 2005, is it really very different for big artist? Not millions copies different. I don't think that DBTT was more dowloaded in 2005 that it wuld be now, I think it's the same
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 24, 2012 5:33:59 GMT -5
What the heck are you doing here truefaith? You criticise me being a troll, when you're no better yourself. At least my trolling is based on my opinion. This isn't even an opinion. It's a fact that album sales have gone down. Stop being a hypocrite and crawl back to the whole you came from. Now if you want to listen to an album, you ave deezer, youtube, you don't even need to dowload it illegally. In 2005, it was either buying or downloading it. The illegal dowloading was huge and the album was available on it month before its release. Nowdays you can buy the cd, buy some songs on itunes, listen to it on deezer or youtube. It's hard to compare 2005 or 2012, the game have changed but for big artist, listenig to their music instead of buying the cd was already made in 2005. If you compare with sales in the 90's, the game is different, but with 2005, is it really very different for big artist? Not millions copies different. I don't think that DBTT was more dowloaded in 2005 that it wuld be now, I think it's the same That's just not true. Back in 2005, the people who looked for and downloaded leaked albums were those desperate to hear it early i.e. fans. But a lot of those fans would end up buying the physical copy anyway, because they were fans. Now the people listening off the internet as opposed to buying the physical copy range from proper fans to casual listeners. The numbers don't lie. Just look at the chart numbers as opposed to living in some parallel universe where truefaith is always right. You can't just say "oh well, look at the big acts". That's not how statistics works.
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Post by petterf22 on Aug 24, 2012 5:52:40 GMT -5
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 24, 2012 8:13:51 GMT -5
First and only post since 2004, and it contains more relevant information than all of truefaith's posts put together. Nice one.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 24, 2012 9:12:02 GMT -5
First and only post since 2004, and it contains more relevant information than all of truefaith's posts put together. Nice one. you have the nerve to told me this, mister "liam is a twat he missed the unplugged " in every single thread in BDI section. I stand by my position, HFB would not outsell DBTT even in 2005.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 24, 2012 9:34:02 GMT -5
First and only post since 2004, and it contains more relevant information than all of truefaith's posts put together. Nice one. you have the nerve to told me this, mister "liam is a twat he missed the unplugged " in every single thread in BDI section. I stand by my position, HFB would not outsell DBTT even in 2005. That's a completely baseless statement. You have absolutely no facts to support that.
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