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Post by somedaysoon on Oct 18, 2011 1:31:42 GMT -5
Yellow sounds more like a Pavement ripoff to me...
Edit: Apparently, I'm not the only one who's noticed this:
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Post by unkymo on Oct 18, 2011 7:13:15 GMT -5
Oh dear Coldplay, with every album you slide more and more into complete shitness. Have to agree with that! Listened to the new album and its not very good at all. |
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Post by CFC2013 on Oct 18, 2011 11:32:41 GMT -5
Coldplay completely sold out with this album.
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Post by takemethere95 on Oct 18, 2011 11:44:01 GMT -5
I have never listened to an entire Coldplay album (I have trouble staying awake for the 6 or so songs I actually have by them), but some of their tracks (don't kill me here guys) I think reach The Masterplan level. Brilliant on their own. Basically, in that way, they are perfect for a modern audience. Release single, have single bought. Release album, meh. I think the reason for the coldplay hate is from two reasons. Their shit gets played on the radio, while other great bands like The Libertines, Oasis, The Wombats, Hot Hot Heat ect get almost ignored. (Fucking hell play us If I Had a Gun!) The other is the 'radiohead' reason. Basically, when you generalise coldplay fans, they are douches. Because those are the most prominent coldplay fans, whether or not they actually form a majority of any sort. Oh, and Yellow is a fucking great song. If it was on Be Here Now, Oasis would be (semi) Kings. Are you aware that Yellow was directly inspired by All Around The World. Hell, the chord structure is identical. Chris Martin once mentioned that it came from it too. And to clarify, Oasis are Kings! With or without Yellow. Yet, in a recent interview, Noel said he wished he had written Yellow (as well as One by U2). He also saw them live at the Roundhouse during the iTunes Festival.  |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 18, 2011 12:33:55 GMT -5
God, I hate the culture of trying to find similarities in songs. That Pavement song doesn't even have the same chord progression, let alone the same melody. And, to make things worse, the song is nothing special.
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Post by good-rebel on Oct 19, 2011 14:08:39 GMT -5
listen to Yellow, then listen to Princess Of China Sold their souls to the devil for prolonged success |
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Post by matt on Oct 24, 2011 11:58:45 GMT -5
Just listened to the album, and there are smashing songs on it but that's brought down by some awful embarrasing clunkers. Viva La Vida was a brilliant album in my view, only hit being the title track but nonetheless the other songs had a lot of variety and some great dark moody tracks like Cemetries of London. Unfortunately, they don't continue in that vein for this album. The cheese factor is taken to the limit, and despite all those electronic noises, it's incredibly unambitious. Very mainstream and seems to just want to please the masses.
Noel Gallagher said this new stuff sounded a bit like U2's The Unforgettable Fire - a MASSIVE compliment there. Whereas that album is just pure brilliance and very creative, this isn't. Any little sign of creativity in Mylo Xyloto and it's as if Chris Martin has gone 'oh shit, we've gone a bit left field here, I know let's get Rihanna in'. Disappointing.
Unfortunately, Chris Martin seems too preoccupied being rich and famous and hanging out with Jay Z and Beyonce and doesn't want to fade into obscurity. I think this band is brilliant on past record but whereas their old stuff had a lot of soul, this album is just passionless. Get your priorites sorted guys!
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Oct 24, 2011 12:52:45 GMT -5
Good on the them for selling their souls for proglonged success. Try and make as much money as you can surely? I'd say they know their songs are shite, and that they write them with an eye towards radio one. But good luck, It's only natural to make as much money as possible.
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Post by Bellboy on Oct 24, 2011 13:01:46 GMT -5
I quite like Paradise & the Video for it TBF. :-)
I reserve judgement on the full album just now. I am a fan of their earlier stuff.
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Post by matt on Oct 24, 2011 14:36:08 GMT -5
The video for Paradise makes the song bearable (very funny) but listening to it on its own, it's unbearable and the worst song on the record. It's the worst Coldplay song ever. I think Hurts Like Heaven and Charlie Brown are just brilliant and two of their best songs ever, and I love the John Squirish guitars in it - these two songs should of been a template. I want to hear a lot more of Jonny Buckland's guitar and less shitty synths JLS style songs like Paradise.
Saying that, the band do have a sense of humour and are good guys and they certainly look as if they really enjoy themselves live, and I can't fault them for that at all.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 24, 2011 21:15:35 GMT -5
This album is too overproduced, Brian Eno have gone too far with MX, on VLV he did a good job, if you think BHN is overproduced then you should hear MX, in fact MX makes BHN sound like a lo-fi record.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 25, 2011 10:58:31 GMT -5
BHN is not at all overproduced. It's overblown and the songs are too long, but the record sonically does not sound that great. A classic overproduced album would sound very slick and polished. Too glossy. BHN sounds like shit (not the songs, just the way the actual record sounds), so I wouldn't call it overproduced.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 25, 2011 11:28:58 GMT -5
Paradise is annoyingly catchy though. Shit song, but somehow catchy. I don't understand the paradox at play here, but nevermind.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 25, 2011 11:32:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 12:03:20 GMT -5
Have-not heard it yet, but the whole concept seems very pretentious to me. "oh it's inspired by American graffiti but it's about Chinese lovers"
The whole thing seems ridiculous, and the singles ain't impressed me either.
Plus a duet with Rihanna = sell out
P.S I own the 1st 4 albums, so I'm no Anti Coldplay person
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Post by matt on Oct 25, 2011 12:09:01 GMT -5
Not really, because it will sell shitloads which seems to be the full intention for this album. Maybe EMI put a gun to their heads and shouted 'MAINSTREAM OR ELSE!'. The criticism seems to be in agreement that it's a massive backstep from Viva La Vida. Let's be honest, apart from the title track of Viva, that album had no 'hits' and wouldn't of been the big seller it turned out to be but the other songs were much more adventurous, dynamic and interesting. They said they took a step forward creatively for Viva La Vida which they did fair enough (unlike other mainstream bands like The Killers and Kings of Leon who I think the new Coldplay album sums up their efforts too) but they can't bullshit us into thinking this new album is creative at all. It seems like the mission was not to make EMI go bankrupt! Mission accomplished, but making a brilliant album? Mission failed... spectacularly. It's actually the first Coldplay album to not get good reviews by the critics, and hopefully it's a kick up the arse for them. This review sums it up perfectly, great review - it's incredibly balanced also and not typical pathetic Coldplay hatred either. drownedinsound.com/releases/16600/reviews/4143856 |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 25, 2011 14:12:56 GMT -5
^But wouldn't the "Coldplay" brand ensure it would sell well, regardless?
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Post by matt on Oct 25, 2011 15:26:45 GMT -5
^ There will always be a core fanbase to get their albums to number one like Oasis, but the sheer scale of the band would significantly reduce if their albums get shitter. There's some killer tunes on the new album, but just massive duds aswell and at the end of the day people are just not going to buy into it. If this continued with Coldplay I wouldn't be going out to the shops and buying their albums and I'm saying that as a fan of the band, simply because they've sold out and the whole concept of an 'album' doesn't seem to apply with them on this record. They're still much better than the other massive mainstream acts but they're creeping into Kings Of Leon territory.
Interesting to note, here's a quote that echoes Noel Gallagher before Be Here Now for reasons to buy it:
""I think its one of our roundest albums, it's almost a perfect circle of a CD, it costs less than £20 and if you don't like it you can always burn it to get some warmth, so it's a three-pronged reason to buy it."
A bit similar to his 'it's got a different cover' quote. I get the feeling Chris Martin knows it isn't that great.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 15:30:23 GMT -5
The Killer's last album, while a drop in quality, did some them work in some creativity and new sounds. it's unfair to lump them with Kings of Leon who simply added more reverb to their songs.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 17:07:22 GMT -5
jools holland tonight is the first time i have heard any of the new coldplay tunes i liked the first tune but not the second, i'll probably get the album soon.
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Post by matt on Oct 25, 2011 19:02:41 GMT -5
The Killer's last album, while a drop in quality, did some them work in some creativity and new sounds. it's unfair to lump them with Kings of Leon who simply added more reverb to their songs. Yeah fair enough, I agree. I think it's very unfair on Coldplay and The Killers to be put in the same bracket as Kings of Leon. I feel Coldplay are the much more creative band on past effort (and that they do have two classic albums in the bag) but unfortunately for Mylo Xyloto adding loads of synths and ambient effects doesn't mean experimentation. |
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Post by retrolego on Oct 25, 2011 19:16:58 GMT -5
I like there older stuff but not gonna waste my time typing about the new stuff
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 23:27:37 GMT -5
The Killer's last album, while a drop in quality, did some them work in some creativity and new sounds. it's unfair to lump them with Kings of Leon who simply added more reverb to their songs. Yeah fair enough, I agree. I think it's very unfair on Coldplay and The Killers to be put in the same bracket as Kings of Leon. I feel Coldplay are the much more creative band on past effort (and that they do have two classic albums in the bag) but unfortunately for Mylo Xyloto adding loads of synths and ambient effects doesn't mean experimentation. The Killers get too much shit, in my opinion. I think Sam's Town is one of the best albums of the 00s and their other two albums are solid efforts with killer singles. |
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Post by manualex on Oct 25, 2011 23:40:20 GMT -5
Yeah fair enough, I agree. I think it's very unfair on Coldplay and The Killers to be put in the same bracket as Kings of Leon. I feel Coldplay are the much more creative band on past effort (and that they do have two classic albums in the bag) but unfortunately for Mylo Xyloto adding loads of synths and ambient effects doesn't mean experimentation. The Killers get too much shit, in my opinion. I think Sam's Town is one of the best albums of the 00s and their other two albums are solid efforts with killer singles. I think that with the killers were expecting the masterpiece(hot fuss was a track or two of that... Sam's town might have been that one if they didnt hyped it/released bones instead of read my mind as second single, I personaly love this one as a whole, but think that is a bit to much like U2 with Rattle and Hum) with Day & Age they had the chance of doing it right but they picked the wrong song for Sawdust(Imagine if they saved Tranquilize and instead trew Human into it). |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 26, 2011 1:31:50 GMT -5
The Killers get too much shit, in my opinion. I think Sam's Town is one of the best albums of the 00s and their other two albums are solid efforts with killer singles. I think that with the killers were expecting the masterpiece(hot fuss was a track or two of that... Sam's town might have been that one if they didnt hyped it/released bones instead of read my mind as second single, I personaly love this one as a whole, but think that is a bit to much like U2 with Rattle and Hum) with Day & Age they had the chance of doing it right but they picked the wrong song for Sawdust(Imagine if they saved Tranquilize and instead trew Human into it). No offense, but the advice you're giving is just fan talk and makes no sense in a commercial sense. Read My Mind makes more sense as a single and did better than Bones. Human was a fucking massive song and Tranquilize is not at all radio-friendly. Sam's Town > Hot Fuss > Day & Age, by the way. They made a Noelesque decision in leaving Forget About What I Said off Day & Age, by the way. |
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