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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 10, 2011 13:32:53 GMT -5
Let's not forget how good DGSS is in the initial excitement about HFB. Sure, Noel's album is better altogether, but DGSS has some qualities that HFB lacks - Liam's voice, up-tempo rock songs etc. And a couple of tunes on DGSS aren't worse than the average HFB track.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 13:34:47 GMT -5
too early to tell. I can tell you one thing. I like Rock more than Pop. Noel's album is a straight-up pop(folksy) album.
BDI's album is more alternative rock.
Still, it's too soon to start comparing.
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Post by heathenchemistry02 on Oct 10, 2011 13:39:13 GMT -5
yeah there's just no way...
the only tracks that belong on the beady eye album in quality are:
Dream On, Solidier Boys and Jesus Freaks
Every other song on Noel's album is above what BDI has put out.
Not close, and the poll shows it, what a stupid question to ask
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2011 13:41:47 GMT -5
yeah there's just no way... the only tracks that belong on the beady eye album in quality are: Dream On, Solidier Boys and Jesus Freaks Every other song on Noel's album is above what BDI has put out. Not close, and the poll shows it, what a stupid question to ask You're not to smart yourself. |
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Post by jilliam on Oct 10, 2011 13:54:14 GMT -5
Not fair but, if we must I'll take a rock n roll album over a bluesy/folk album any day. I really like Noels but, there are a few turds in this High Flying Birds lp. I don't understand why its soo hard to publicly admit to many forum members. nothing wrong with that. DGSS and HFB are two different kind of albums to begin with. You really can not compare the two. Noel has a handful of stand out songs and few misses as well. DGSS has the same, handful of kick ass songs, and a few duds. DON'T BELIEVE THE TRUTH, sheeple.
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Post by gdforever on Oct 10, 2011 14:05:54 GMT -5
I think we need to stop using that "An Oasis fan should love both Noel and Liam's projects." That was true in theory before the albums. But now you can be a Noel fan or a BDI fan...separate from from the Oasis fandom
With this album...that's it. People can now legitimately be a Noel Gallagher fan and not particularly rate Liam...or even Oasis. Just like people could like BDI that hadn't liked Oasis or Noel.
They are now truly separate entities. How freaky is that?
For me, I like BDI. I am glad that I have their album in my collection. Not ashamed to have most of it on my iPod (although I have taken B&S, SOTEOTN, and TOAK off as those do shame me). I'll buy their next album...but probably not anything extra and see them if they some to town. Like most of the rest of the band I enjoy. However, I am a Noel fanatic...and now I feel I can justify that opinion even leaving Oasis out of it. I will fly out to see him in Toronto and I will buy special editions and imports and DVD's. I am just plain a bigger fan of Noel...and the beauty of the split and subsequent albums is that now I can be.
Just like jilliam and tomlivesforever are free to be bigger BDI fans.
This isn't Oasis anymore. We've passed through the other side of the tunnel. Welcome to the new world.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2011 14:08:55 GMT -5
Exactly GD, summed it up really nicely. And while its true someone could now like either without liking Oasis, its something the majority of us will always have in common.
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Post by basiloasis1974 on Oct 10, 2011 14:16:47 GMT -5
HFB, but DGSS is still a solid 8/10 and I bet BDI are better live. I will be the judge of that as I see Noel in Manchester on the 26th and BDI in sunny Blackpool on the 11th. Happy dayz!!
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Post by adamtj11 on Oct 10, 2011 14:17:58 GMT -5
isn't even close, NGHFB
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 10, 2011 14:34:21 GMT -5
To be honest I just thank God that for the foreseeable future both will be releasing albums for me to enjoy. Not a "fan boy" of either but these two records have both made my record collection better. Can't wait to see where both go next.
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Post by dearprudence on Oct 10, 2011 15:47:30 GMT -5
its a Ferrari vs Audi poll.... Audi its good car... but lets be serious...
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Post by bwilder on Oct 10, 2011 16:51:10 GMT -5
Honestly, it isn't close. Beady Eye had some okay tunes and Liam's voice is a better rock n roll voice than Noel's but Noel's songwriting abilities overmatch Beady Eye's by miles.
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Post by gobblegobble on Oct 10, 2011 16:54:15 GMT -5
I'm on my 12th listen of Noel's album already. Beady Eye didn't even get 3 from me. I enjoy a few songs from them but most of them sound pretty bland. Noel all the way
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Post by StepOut on Oct 10, 2011 16:56:50 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't think either record is better than the other. They're two different genres in my opinion. Frankly, both records have highs and lows. Crop and cut both and you arguably have THE BEST OASIS RECORD TO DATE.
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Post by StepOut on Oct 10, 2011 16:59:06 GMT -5
If anything, after listening to Noel's record and having spent most of 2011 listening to Beady Eye, I've drawn the conclusion that the brothers Gallagher are not better off on their own rather they need each other. Together they are at the their best. Fragmented, they produce good music but certainly not at the level or velocity of Oasis.
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Post by gleiser77 on Oct 10, 2011 17:27:52 GMT -5
If anything, after listening to Noel's record and having spent most of 2011 listening to Beady Eye, I've drawn the conclusion that the brothers Gallagher are not better off on their own rather they need each other. Together they are at the their best. Fragmented, they produce good music but certainly not at the level or velocity of Oasis. I've been a guest of this forum for years, but this post made me create an account. I had to say that you are absolutely correct, sir. I wish DGSS and NGHFB were an Oasis double album. |
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Post by Nicole R. on Oct 10, 2011 17:32:20 GMT -5
I'm not going to vote since I haven't heard the whole HFB album yet (I pre-ordered the album and am planning to wait for it). But as a few other posters said, I like rock 'n' roll better than pop music -- and better than dance music, or jazz, or country, or whatever kind of music has a saw on it.  So I am pretty sure I am going to prefer the classic/alt rock of Beady Eye to anything Noel does with his High Flying Birds. |
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Oct 10, 2011 18:05:09 GMT -5
Guys, I'm getting a psychic reading: Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds will win this one.
Oh, and the press might just praise him a little more than Liam after it comes out too, not just us "fans" who feel the need to compare fucking everything.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 18:55:45 GMT -5
If anything, after listening to Noel's record and having spent most of 2011 listening to Beady Eye, I've drawn the conclusion that the brothers Gallagher are not better off on their own rather they need each other. Together they are at the their best. Fragmented, they produce good music but certainly not at the level or velocity of Oasis. I actually really disagree with this sentiment. If we were talking '90s or early 2000's I would have wholeheartedly agreed with you... but in 2011, I don't think so. Sure, neither Noel or Liam will ever be as big commercially again as Oasis, but there is no way to replicate what Oasis used to be anymore. Liam may need Noel to write the stadium anthems that Beady Eye is currently lacking, but the fact is Noel isn't writing rock 'n roll songs anymore. Liam would NOT be better off having Noel in the band again if writing rock songs isn't Noel's FIRST choice, what he naturally gravitates to. That's partly why the end of Oasis sounded so tired. Beady Eye sounds a lot lighter and carefree without Noel in the band. Similarly, most of us agree that from a pure songwriting perspective, this collection of songs on HFB is the most inspired Noel has ever been in a long time, and it shows in the music. Noel does NOT need Liam for these, because they're not really rock songs. They're good enough on their own. It works out better for everyone that they're separate. |
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Post by dion on Oct 10, 2011 19:03:11 GMT -5
Now I really, really like the Roller and 4LW but EOTR and IIHAG are another level. Also listening to TDOYAM made me dislike Millionaire, which was my favourite song on DGSS. For me Noel''s quality shows, there are no duds on this album, while he doesn't have Liams voice (which adds at least a point to every song on DGSS) it's still a strong vocal performance. Aside from the excess of horns during the RM solo I can't find fault with the production either.
It was a very good start from both, DGSS is a solid 7, NGHFB is an 8.5.
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Post by heltahskeltah85 on Oct 10, 2011 19:20:15 GMT -5
NGHFB! It´s Noel Gallagher`s album y`know, y`know?
Four Letter Word really got me. Some tunes on DGSS are enjoyable, some are not. Just because the songs could be labelled as "rock`n`roll" they`re not good. What song on NGHFB is exactly folksy or country?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 19:23:03 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't think either record is better than the other. They're two different genres in my opinion. Frankly, both records have highs and lows. Crop and cut both and you arguably have THE BEST OASIS RECORD TO DATE. Best Oasis record? Not a chance. Not in a million years. |
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 19:25:06 GMT -5
What song on NGHFB is exactly folksy or country? Yeah I was also having trouble with this description... what exactly about this album sounds like folk? Folk is usually as simple in instrumentation as possible, and this album is not. I barely even hear the blues vibe that some of you are describing it as. |
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Post by cosmos on Oct 10, 2011 19:37:30 GMT -5
HFB is boring, really boring. DGSP has more energy and it is more impressive. Noel´s effort can be recognize but it is disapointing at the end. He made the BHN mistake: overproduced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 19:44:30 GMT -5
What song on NGHFB is exactly folksy or country? Yeah I was also having trouble with this description... what exactly about this album sounds like folk? Folk is usually as simple in instrumentation as possible, and this album is not. I barely even hear the blues vibe that some of you are describing it as. There's a faint blues vibe in Stranded..., but it's only as much as tunes on DOYS had before. I think folk is just an easy way to say "acoustic" which the album obviously is, but it's way too over produced to be a straight folk record. If anyone wants to listen to an actual folk, acoustic, and/or country album check out Ashes and Fire by Ryan Adams. |
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So I am pretty sure I am going to prefer the classic/alt rock of Beady Eye to anything Noel does with his High Flying Birds. 
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