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Post by drteter on Oct 10, 2011 0:41:20 GMT -5
the only way it'd be anything close to a 9 or a 10 would be IF all the tracks were of the same caliber as EOTR and IIHAG, i mean even the latter isn't a 9 or 10, it's a 8.5 for me. the song isn't exactly perfect. So... clearly the rest of the album isn't up to par with the songs previously mentioned. COuld someone then tell me just how the fuck one could rate this album a 9 or a 10 ? especially with the fillers and the ridiculous crap that is AKA WAL ? gosh, i fucking hate fanboys. I rated it a 9, and don't consider myself a fanboy. I have a bit different taste in music, so we're probably looking for different things from this album. I read another one of your posts that said you were hoping for songs in the vein of Step Out, so there understandably would not be a whole lot that you were looking for on this album. I personally was looking for Noel to try a couple new things and give us a more sophisticated and layered record instrumentally. What A Life is a great example of the experimentation that I was looking for, as I personally think it sounds like Falling Down meets Kasabian, both of which I love. There's no song on this record that I dislike or would skip (at least through the first hours of having the album) and I really like what Noel did with adding strings, choir, and brass to several of the tracks. To summarize, I was looking for Noel to give us a more poppy album that would be a bit of a contrast to both Oasis' last few records and BDI's album. I wouldn't want him to try to out rock 'n roll LAG and Co. because I don't think his voice suits that kind of music. This was just about precisely the record I was looking for, and that's why I rated it very highly. It has nothing to do with being a fanboy. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 0:53:17 GMT -5
the only way it'd be anything close to a 9 or a 10 would be IF all the tracks were of the same caliber as EOTR and IIHAG, i mean even the latter isn't a 9 or 10, it's a 8.5 for me. the song isn't exactly perfect. So... clearly the rest of the album isn't up to par with the songs previously mentioned. COuld someone then tell me just how the fuck one could rate this album a 9 or a 10 ? especially with the fillers and the ridiculous crap that is AKA WAL ? gosh, i fucking hate fanboys. I rated it a 9, and don't consider myself a fanboy. I have a bit different taste in music, so we're probably looking for different things from this album. I read another one of your posts that said you were hoping for songs in the vein of Step Out, so there understandably would not be a whole lot that you were looking for on this album. I personally was looking for Noel to try a couple new things and give us a more sophisticated and layered record instrumentally. What A Life is a great example of the experimentation that I was looking for, as I personally think it sounds like Falling Down meets Kasabian, both of which I love. There's no song on this record that I dislike or would skip (at least through the first hours of having the album) and I really like what Noel did with adding strings, choir, and brass to several of the tracks. To summarize, I was looking for Noel to give us a more poppy album that would be a bit of a contrast to both Oasis' last few records and BDI's album. I wouldn't want him to try to out rock 'n roll LAG and Co. because I don't think his voice suits that kind of music. This was just about precisely the record I was looking for, and that's why I rated it very highly. It has nothing to do with being a fanboy. ok i can respect that... |
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Oct 10, 2011 1:59:10 GMT -5
Everybody's On The Run (10/10) - Should definitely be a single, simple as that. Production, vocals, melody... it's all there. Absolutely perfect to my ears. Dream On (7.5/10) - It's a grower. Chorus wasn't as "catchy" as I hoped it would be, so that was a bit disappointing, but overall, it's a nice listen. If I Had A Gun... (9/10) - This song is perfect in every way, EXCEPT for the production. The production really does kill it's full potential of really being that great, 'Stop Crying Your Heart Out' type of song, if y'know what I mean. It does have one of the best harmonies on the album, though. The Death Of You And Me (8/10) - I'm not all over this song, like most people, but I will always realize that it is a solid tune. Noel's vocals really shine on this track. (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine (9.5/10) - It has improved in every way, but what happened to the groovy bass line from the demo? :/ Some may complain that it's a bit overproduced, and I can totally understand that, but to me anything less would've been underwhelming for such an "epic" sounding song. AKA... What A Life! (7.5/10) - My least favorite song off the album. That's right, I said it. I do like the lyrics, and I admit that it does have a catchy chorus, but it never lifts off. It's definitely the 'Falling Down' of the album, it's easy to get lost in, but you can't help but think how much better it could've been. Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks (8/10) - Talk about exceeding my expectations... I was about to completely disown this song after hearing the lame preview sample. After a good listen though, it's oddly a personal favorite of mine. I love the "On and on we go..." line. I could almost listen to that chorus all day. Kind of ends a bit too soon, though... AKA... Broken Arrow (8.5/10) - Probably the most fun the album gets. Really upbeat and catchy. I really dug the preview clip so it comes to no surprise that I think really highly of this track. Definitely the better AKA song, by the way.  (Stranded On) The Wrong Beach (8/10) - This one kind of gets a bit overshadowed, mainly because of it being the second to last track on the album. Don't get me wrong though, it completely fits on this album. I think it's really groovy and has a nice mellow touch to it that's a nice break from the album's orchestra driven direction. Stop The Clocks (10/10) - It's been a long journey, but oh what a journey it has been... A song with so much anticipation and hype built around it usually leaves it been disappointing and under appreciated, but this is not the case for this track. So much history and memories surround this tune... I almost get a tear just listening to it. If this was Noel's last song he were to ever release, then I would've been perfectly fine with that. Great closer to a fantastic album. |
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Post by jilliam on Oct 10, 2011 2:23:12 GMT -5
solid seven for me. Great album. Nice work Noel. Nothinhg wrong folks with voting what you really feel about this album, if its a 7/8. IMO the fuckin trolls are the diluted ones rating this a fuckin 10/11 when they've not been in possession of this album for more than 24hrs. fuck off!
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Post by NicOasis on Oct 10, 2011 2:33:28 GMT -5
I give it a solid 8.5-haven't gave it a good listen though, soooo...time for my 43 minute evening stroll...
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 2:39:09 GMT -5
solid seven for me. Great album. Nice work Noel. Nothinhg wrong folks with voting what you really feel about this album, if its a 7/8. IMO the fuckin trolls are the diluted ones rating this a fuckin 10/11 when they've not been in possession of this album for more than 24hrs. fuck off! exactly, fanboyism at its finest but what can you do? |
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Post by adamtj11 on Oct 10, 2011 2:39:35 GMT -5
Voted 9.5, it's that good
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 2:43:25 GMT -5
I can't decide whether it should be a 9 or 9.5... the only reason why I'm deducting those points are solely because of the production on some songs, which I felt could be better. Otherwise it is just a wonderful listening experience.
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Post by CFC2013 on Oct 10, 2011 2:44:58 GMT -5
At first, it was a a 9...purely based off the musical qualities, but on the second listen/full listen, with full consideration of story, message, philosophy, attitude, etc...It's a 9.5...slightly edges out BHN in my opinion. BHN will always hold a special place in my heart though.
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Post by I Built The Moon on Oct 10, 2011 3:28:49 GMT -5
Comparing it to previous Oasis albums seems wrong, but then again i guess its fair if you compare it to the albums that Noel wrote entirely:
DM: 9/10
WSMG: 10/10
BHN: 8/10 (Some of my favourite songs on there but too many duds)
SOTSOG: 9/10 (I count it as a Noel album, because Little James doesnt count. I know i'll get lambasted but i adore this album)
NGHFB: 8,5 (Will get better. I wasnt keen on DM after a few listens, but it grew on me. This will be the same)
Now more precisely: EOTR: 10/10 All has been said about this song. Epic, gorgeous, incredible.
Dream on: 8/10 True i expected a slightly stronger chorus. But still oh so catchy. Love the whole vibe.
IIHAG: 9,5 You just have to hear the melody, and the words "excuse if i spoke too soon" to melt...
TDOYAM: 9 THIS has grown on me, and fits so much better within the context of the album. A great song
Record Machine: 9 For 90% of the song, it is better than the demo. But i think the demo packed more of a punch on the "you can't give me a reason, i wont need one to shiiiiiiine" bit. But still a fantastic song.
AKA...WAL: 8/10 Again a grower. Wasnt sure when it came out, but now fits perfectly in the album.
SBJF: 8,5 Great lyrics, and great chorus. A tad to short? or is that picky?
Broken Arrow: 8 Not quite getting the vibe some of you are getting from it. But i need more listens. The lyrics are quite beautiful so itll grow on me i think.
Wrong Beach: 9 I LOVE the opening beat and sound, and the rest is great too. Again dipping into that Importance of being idle vibe. And i have no problem with that. I embrace it
STC: 9 I quite liked the demo but thought it didnt feel right, was a bit cheesy. This blows it out of the water. Heartfelt for most of it, then the explosion at the end made me laugh. Talk about throwing the kitchen sink. LOVE IT.
I know i gave the whole album a 8,5, and from the individual song review it might seem like it should be higher. But i rate the album as a whole. And as a full piece of work, so far it is a solid 8,5. It'll get better, promise!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 3:40:19 GMT -5
10/10!
As good as any other album ever released!
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Post by Mr. Sifter on Oct 10, 2011 3:44:13 GMT -5
A solid seven from me, the production really drags down the best songs and elivates some of the ok-ish ones (TDOYAM, AKA...WAL for example).
Can't see how people rate this album 10, 9.5 and 9. That's DM and MG (if we're just talking oasis albums) territory for me, and this album definetly doesn't come anywhere close to that... This rests stedily with the likes of DBTT, DOYS, DGSS and SOTSOG, wich all have songs that are 5-8 out of 10. And sure, I don't think this album has any 5:ers, but you can't say that the worst songs are better or as good here, as the worst songs on DM or MG. It's fine if you think this is a fuckin' great album, I really like it, but 9 or 10 / 10 warrants a masterpiece, something that will have people talking about it 20-30 years from now, and this is just not one of those albums. It's a solid effort and makes me long for the AA album, wich probably will be more to my liking.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 3:51:24 GMT -5
A solid seven from me, the production really drags down the best songs and elivates some of the ok-ish ones (TDOYAM, AKA...WAL for example). Can't see how people rate this album 10, 9.5 and 9. That's DM and MG (if we're just talking oasis albums) territory for me, and this album definetly doesn't come anywhere close to that... This rests stedily with the likes of DBTT, DOYS, DGSS and SOTSOG, wich all have songs that are 5-8 out of 10. It's fine if you think this is a fuckin' great album, I really like it, but 9 or 10 / 10 warrants a masterpiece, something that will have people talking about it 20-30 years from now, and this is just not one of those albums. it's futile, can't really talk sense into some of these people(the fanboys). They've been waiting for this for years, and they'd be damned if they're gonna accept and/or acknowledge that the album is anything but a masterpiece(a 9 or a 10). like i said, it's just absurd. then again, that's what fanboyism is all about. |
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 3:54:57 GMT -5
A solid seven from me, the production really drags down the best songs and elivates some of the ok-ish ones (TDOYAM, AKA...WAL for example). Can't see how people rate this album 10, 9.5 and 9. That's DM and MG (if we're just talking oasis albums) territory for me, and this album definetly doesn't come anywhere close to that... This rests stedily with the likes of DBTT, DOYS, DGSS and SOTSOG, wich all have songs that are 5-8 out of 10. And sure, I don't think this album has any 5:ers, but you can't say that the worst songs are better or as good here, as the worst songs on DM or MG. It's fine if you think this is a fuckin' great album, I really like it, but 9 or 10 / 10 warrants a masterpiece, something that will have people talking about it 20-30 years from now, and this is just not one of those albums. It's a solid effort and makes me long for the AA album, wich probably will be more to my liking. For me at least, I genuinely put the quality of these songs on the same tier as DM/WTSMG. I don't equate this album to latter day Oasis at all. To me this album is very very close to a masterpiece. I just have some minor quibbles about instrumentation and questionable arrangements... but it doesn't really detract from the quality of the songs at all, which really shine through. The power of these CHORUSES are stronger than anything on the entire previous decade of Oasis. That's why I'd rank it up there with the early Oasis albums. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 10, 2011 4:03:40 GMT -5
A solid seven from me, the production really drags down the best songs and elivates some of the ok-ish ones (TDOYAM, AKA...WAL for example). Can't see how people rate this album 10, 9.5 and 9. That's DM and MG (if we're just talking oasis albums) territory for me, and this album definetly doesn't come anywhere close to that... This rests stedily with the likes of DBTT, DOYS, DGSS and SOTSOG, wich all have songs that are 5-8 out of 10. And sure, I don't think this album has any 5:ers, but you can't say that the worst songs are better or as good here, as the worst songs on DM or MG. It's fine if you think this is a fuckin' great album, I really like it, but 9 or 10 / 10 warrants a masterpiece, something that will have people talking about it 20-30 years from now, and this is just not one of those albums. It's a solid effort and makes me long for the AA album, wich probably will be more to my liking. I genuinely put the quality of these songs on the same tier as DM/WTSMG. stopped reading there. You're either in denial or you just don't know what you're talking about. The only other possibility is that you actually believe what you're saying and you're just delusional. lol |
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 10, 2011 4:04:50 GMT -5
8/10. just because it feels like it
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Post by paranoidandroid on Oct 10, 2011 4:07:07 GMT -5
8/10 for me at the moment. i need to listen again and also hear the songs live before i make a final decision
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 5:09:01 GMT -5
I genuinely put the quality of these songs on the same tier as DM/WTSMG. stopped reading there. You're either in denial or you just don't know what you're talking about. The only other possibility is that you actually believe what you're saying and you're just delusional. lol For the love of god people are allowed to have opinions. |
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Post by dion on Oct 10, 2011 7:21:18 GMT -5
EOTR - 9.5
Dream On - 8
IIHAG - 9
TDOYAM - 8.5
RM - 8
AKAWAL - 7.5
SBAJF - 7.5
AKABA - 8
SOTWB - 7
STC - 8
Average 8.1, that gets bumped up to an 8.5, might even get higher because it generally takes me a while to let things settle in before I really appreciate it.
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Post by start at the end on Oct 10, 2011 7:27:50 GMT -5
8.5
To rate ANY LP any higher in the first 24 hrs is all-but impossible in my experience. You simply cannnot gage what the song will be in 2 days, nevermind 2 months.
It's solid though, real solid. An easy shot would be to call it "over-produced" but the fact of the matter is nearly all the songs beg for the "kitchen sink" treatment. It's like calling a White Stripes or Hives LP too "raw".
By far the most unlistenable moment on the whole record is the 157,937 (ok, I think it's 12 or 13) "shout it out for me's" at the end of Dream On.
Although Noel's been a repeat offender of the overly-elongated-outro, this one is right up there with "Hey Now". Makes you wonder how these slip through, but it's difficult to refute the album overall- the songs are simply too strong.
It will make MANY year-end best of lists.
And most righfully so.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 10, 2011 8:12:02 GMT -5
9/10 after the first couple of listens. EOTR, RM, IIHAG, TDOYAM and STC are absolutely brilliant (9-10/10), and Dream On, Wrong Beach & Broken Arrow are about 8/10 for me. WAL and Soldier Boys are the "weakest" somewhere between 7 and 8. As a whole, the album is better than anything Gallagher-related released this century.
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Post by start at the end on Oct 10, 2011 8:20:48 GMT -5
I genuinely put the quality of these songs on the same tier as DM/WTSMG. "stopped reading there." oooohhhhhhhh!!!!! (as I twinkle my fingers in the air). amazing you felt compelled to announce when you "stopped reading" (which is bullshit to begin with as we all know you read the remaining 4 sentences as well). The records is- by 99% of all accounts- an excellent work and therefore it's absurd for you (or anyone else) to question how much it's affected/affecting someone else...and even less so: the fact that they may rank it highly against the IDENTICAL AUTHOR's past work- of which they're almost certainly as familiar with as you are. get a fkn grip. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 8:25:19 GMT -5
Woke up with Broken Arrow ringing in my head, after only two listens last night. I feel perfectly comfortable with my high rating at this point. For me, Noel's heart felt lyrics really elevate this album to places that Oasis albums often failed to go. It's more mature and tender. Also, can we please refrain from the term "fanboy", anyone who uses it sounds like a grade schooler.  |
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Post by mrbrightside727 on Oct 10, 2011 8:35:31 GMT -5
8.5/10 for me as of yet, may move up a little after few weeks with a lot more listens. I gave DGSS 7/10 after the first few listens but now its a 7.5/10.
EOTR, RM - 9.5/10
IIHAG, TWB, STC - 9/10
TDOYAM, SBAJF, AKA... BA - 8.5/10
DO - 8/10
AKA... WAL! - 7/10
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 8:42:21 GMT -5
the only way it'd be anything close to a 9 or a 10 would be IF all the tracks were of the same caliber as EOTR and IIHAG, i mean even the latter isn't a 9 or 10, it's a 8.5 for me. the song isn't exactly perfect. So... clearly the rest of the album isn't up to par with the songs previously mentioned. COuld someone then tell me just how the fuck one could rate this album a 9 or a 10 ? especially with the fillers and the ridiculous crap that is AKA WAL ? gosh, i fucking hate fanboys. says the biggest LG fanboy there is |
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