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Post by spaneli on Sept 18, 2011 0:59:36 GMT -5
So apparently by your defintion, I'm clearly a "fanboy". Check. Well glad I'm part of the club now. Clearly the word "fanboy" has become a crutch for you lgfaver. It's your catch all phrase. One that's been used so many times, it's lost meaning. It's the phrase you use when you can't explain why some are against you/you're opinion. That anyone who disagrees with you and defends Noel, is a "fanboy". Well I think that's a defintion that you should change quickly. Because you'll find that the people you can actually have a conversation with will shrink drastically. If it hasn't already. i didn't call you-personally, a fanboy. You know what i think of you, i don't need to say it over and over. If you're insecure about what other people think of you, then i don't know what to tell you. I didn't really think you thought that way. Anyhow, all i am saying is neither of them had something to prove. i mean, i guess you could say Liam had to prove that he could do it on his own, to which i'd reply, so did Noel. and no, i am clearly not the only one using that word, i haven't been posting that much lately but i have been lurking the site and i seen it being posted several times. i know not everyone agrees with me but i also know not everyone disagrees with what i've said either. One day lgfaver, you'll learn that I have a method to my madness. And my insecurities are my securites. And the day you figure out what I just meant by that, is the day you'll figure out me.  |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 18, 2011 1:08:09 GMT -5
i didn't call you-personally, a fanboy. You know what i think of you, i don't need to say it over and over. If you're insecure about what other people think of you, then i don't know what to tell you. I didn't really think you thought that way. Anyhow, all i am saying is neither of them had something to prove. i mean, i guess you could say Liam had to prove that he could do it on his own, to which i'd reply, so did Noel. and no, i am clearly not the only one using that word, i haven't been posting that much lately but i have been lurking the site and i seen it being posted several times. i know not everyone agrees with me but i also know not everyone disagrees with what i've said either. One day lgfaver, you'll learn that I have a method to my madness. And my insecurities are my securites. And the day you figure what I just meant by that, is the day you'll figure out me. one thing i've figured out about you is that grammar isn't one of your fortes  j/k.... peace out Spaneli, or should i say...  Spinelli ;D |
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Post by spaneli on Sept 18, 2011 1:11:54 GMT -5
^ yes. That's where the name comes from. I purposely misspell it for reasons only known by me. I think I've said that numerous times before on here. Edit: And for the record, I look nothing like that in real life. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 18, 2011 1:23:07 GMT -5
lol really? i didn't even know that. btw Recess was the shit. i think it still airs on some random cable channel like @ 3 am or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 7:50:06 GMT -5
sorry is is unreal.. how can oasis fans on an oasis forum complain about Noely G playing oasis songs?!?!?
he is playing his NGHFB material anyways so what is the problem?
Jiliam, your "easy way out" comment is outrageous. did you complain about the DOYS tour because playing Slide Away was the easy way out??
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Post by GIMH on Sept 18, 2011 7:58:26 GMT -5
Disagree that Noel has nothing to prove. He's never had any success without Liam. He has plenty to prove.
EDIT - and yeah I know DLBIA and TIOBI were number one singles, but he's never been on his own properly. I've no doubt he will be a huge success, but he still ahs to go out and do it.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Sept 18, 2011 8:28:06 GMT -5
Disagree that Noel has nothing to prove. He's never had any success without Liam. He has plenty to prove. EDIT - and yeah I know DLBIA and TIOBI were number one singles, but he's never been on his own properly. I've no doubt he will be a huge success, but he still ahs to go out and do it. He's already working towards doing that (although I disagree that Noel has anything to prove). Already bested BDI in the charts once and on his way to doing it again. Already more American airplay than BDI have had. And for those that whine about people comparing the two, Liam dug his own grave by saying BDI's album would be better than Noel's. As for the topic at hand, anyone who's written songs knows that it doesn't matter who plays the song. It's all about the writer. There's a sense of ownership that you won't ever get by simply playing or singing someone else's song a lot. Meaning Noel can do whatever the fuck he want. Wonderwall and Live Forever are as much his songs as The Death Of You And Me and If I Had A Gun... |
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Post by GIMH on Sept 18, 2011 8:33:20 GMT -5
Would Live Forever be regarded as one of the best songs ever had Noel sung it though? I know what you are getting at, but Liam's voice transforms the early Oasis classics.
Not that that means he shouldn't be allowed to play it - I agree he is perfectly entitled to. I just wish he wouldn't sign the Liam tunes because I don't think he does them justice. I know people say this about Liam in the last five years or so, but in all fairness it's not really relevant when Beady Eye aren't playing oasis songs anyway.
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Post by oneeye on Sept 18, 2011 9:04:19 GMT -5
Tunes that Noel can and should do ...
Rockin Chair
Talk Tonight
Don't Go Away
Sad Song
Fade Away
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Sept 18, 2011 14:06:18 GMT -5
Would Live Forever be regarded as one of the best songs ever had Noel sung it though? I know what you are getting at, but Liam's voice transforms the early Oasis classics. Not that that means he shouldn't be allowed to play it - I agree he is perfectly entitled to. I just wish he wouldn't sign the Liam tunes because I don't think he does them justice. I know people say this about Liam in the last five years or so, but in all fairness it's not really relevant when Beady Eye aren't playing oasis songs anyway. It probably wouldn't be regarded as highly, but it's all conjecture. I'm more interested in the now. And people (not you, to be clear) saying he shouldn't do Oasis songs is nonsense. |
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Post by GIMH on Sept 18, 2011 14:15:28 GMT -5
Yeah ultimately I agree that he should play Oasis songs. I'd just personally rather he stuck to the ones he sang on record, or at least ones that became his live like Whatever, She's Electric etc. But then I am dying for Liam to roll out Songbird and I'm Outta Time at the Blackpool gig in November so... |
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Post by jacksonlennon on Sept 19, 2011 0:29:05 GMT -5
As for the topic at hand, anyone who's written songs knows that it doesn't matter who plays the song. It's all about the writer. There's a sense of ownership that you won't ever get by simply playing or singing someone else's song a lot. Meaning Noel can do whatever the fuck he want. Wonderwall and Live Forever are as much his songs as The Death Of You And Me and If I Had A Gun... This, this, this, this & this!! K+ Could not agree more, how does he not have the right to play the songs he crafted? They ain't gonna sound like they do with Liam on them, so why cry? They haven't sounded great live for nearly ten years and Noel definitely won't butcher them - I'd put me car on it. I'm ecstatic about it. Honestly, can't even relate to the otherside of the argument. Bottom line is if Noel Gallagher didn't exist either would the songs. I reckon the live shows are going to be killer, looking forward to the new tunes more than the old ones. Can't wait to hear the arrangements. |
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Post by martinpaul on Sept 19, 2011 6:19:22 GMT -5
yawn This thread is divided into people who are going to the gigs and people who are not. It's very easy for people not going to a gig to say that he shouldn't play Oasis songs. Didn't realise you were a mind reader, the reason I'm not going to any of the gigs is because he is playing Oasis songs. The reason I went to the BE gigs was because they were putting themselves out there, prepared for the criticism of their debut album not standing up to Noel's writing, Liam's voice has gone...... yada yada. BE have/had the balls to live or die in a live environment with their own songs from a debut album. I don't care if DGSS was great/average/shit they had the balls to let it stand alone. Noel doesn't. End of story, all the Noel lovers on here can twist it anyway they like, it's not even a Noel Gallagher show, it's Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds so Noel's new band is playing Oasis songs, it's not a solo acoustic Noel gig it's his new band. It's not Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye is it?? Noel can't have it all ways, he was the main songwriter but he was also the one holding them back by playing the same fucking songs live for 20 years. Now he's playing them with his new band and everyone is saying it's amazing........... Noel might as well sell it as a nostalgia tour and wear Fred Perry polo's with some Stan Smiths on his feet. |
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Sept 19, 2011 6:40:17 GMT -5
Didn't realise you were a mind reader, the reason I'm not going to any of the gigs is because he is playing Oasis songs. The reason I went to the BE gigs was because they were putting themselves out there, prepared for the criticism of their debut album not standing up to Noel's writing, Liam's voice has gone...... yada yada. BE have/had the balls to live or die in a live environment with their own songs from a debut album. I don't care if DGSS was great/average/shit they had the balls to let it stand alone. Noel doesn't. End of story, all the Noel lovers on here can twist it anyway they like, it's not even a Noel Gallagher show, it's Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds so Noel's new band is playing Oasis songs, it's not a solo acoustic Noel gig it's his new band. It's not Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye is it?? Noel can't have it all ways, he was the main songwriter but he was also the one holding them back by playing the same fucking songs live for 20 years. Now he's playing them with his new band and everyone is saying it's amazing........... Noel might as well sell it as a nostalgia tour and wear Fred Perry polo's with some Stan Smiths on his feet. You have shit in your head man  |
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Post by headshrinker84 on Sept 19, 2011 8:54:14 GMT -5
yawn This thread is divided into people who are going to the gigs and people who are not. It's very easy for people not going to a gig to say that he shouldn't play Oasis songs. Didn't realise you were a mind reader, the reason I'm not going to any of the gigs is because he is playing Oasis songs. The reason I went to the BE gigs was because they were putting themselves out there, prepared for the criticism of their debut album not standing up to Noel's writing, Liam's voice has gone...... yada yada. BE have/had the balls to live or die in a live environment with their own songs from a debut album. I don't care if DGSS was great/average/shit they had the balls to let it stand alone. Noel doesn't. End of story, all the Noel lovers on here can twist it anyway they like, it's not even a Noel Gallagher show, it's Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds so Noel's new band is playing Oasis songs, it's not a solo acoustic Noel gig it's his new band. It's not Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye is it?? Noel can't have it all ways, he was the main songwriter but he was also the one holding them back by playing the same fucking songs live for 20 years. Now he's playing them with his new band and everyone is saying it's amazing........... Noel might as well sell it as a nostalgia tour and wear Fred Perry polo's with some Stan Smiths on his feet. What a load of tripe. The reason beady eye arent playing oasis songs is because they are a new band, Noel is playing oasis songs and new ones because HE wrote them and its his SOLO career not a band. Every solo artist that was in a band before they went solo played songs from thier previous bands like Weller an mcartney for example. |
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Post by RocketMan on Sept 19, 2011 8:56:12 GMT -5
first post headshrinker84 and the best way to close this thread. everythings been said with that post. nice one !
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 19, 2011 9:43:04 GMT -5
There is a lot of Noel hating going on in here. Not sure why. Who cares if he plays 4-5 Oasis songs. The man is free to do whatever he wants. I want to hear 12 or 13 new songs and I'd still like to hear older ones. I'm a fan of his songwriting. It would be a shame not to hear some of those tunes again. Way too amazing to sit locked away. As far as Beady Eye not playing Oasis songs? Well they don't have too many stunners to pick from. I'm Outta Time? Songbird? Eyeball Tickler? That doesn't come close to the gems Noel can pick from at any time.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 19, 2011 9:50:33 GMT -5
There is a lot of Noel hating going on in here. Not sure why. Who cares if he plays 4-5 Oasis songs. The man is free to do whatever he wants. I want to hear 12 or 13 new songs and I'd still like to hear older ones. I'm a fan of his songwriting. It would be a shame not to hear some of those tunes again. Way too amazing to sit locked away. As far as Beady Eye not playing Oasis songs? Well they don't have too many stunners to pick from. I'm Outta Time? Songbird? Eyeball Tickler? That doesn't come close to the gems Noel can pick from at any time. It's not hating. It's just some expressing their opinions. There might one or two who just want to dislike everything Noel does, but many in the this thread are just expressing their opinions. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 12:57:26 GMT -5
Didn't realise you were a mind reader, the reason I'm not going to any of the gigs is because he is playing Oasis songs. The reason I went to the BE gigs was because they were putting themselves out there, prepared for the criticism of their debut album not standing up to Noel's writing, Liam's voice has gone...... yada yada. BE have/had the balls to live or die in a live environment with their own songs from a debut album. I don't care if DGSS was great/average/shit they had the balls to let it stand alone. Noel doesn't. End of story, all the Noel lovers on here can twist it anyway they like, it's not even a Noel Gallagher show, it's Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds so Noel's new band is playing Oasis songs, it's not a solo acoustic Noel gig it's his new band. It's not Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye is it?? Noel can't have it all ways, he was the main songwriter but he was also the one holding them back by playing the same fucking songs live for 20 years. Now he's playing them with his new band and everyone is saying it's amazing........... Noel might as well sell it as a nostalgia tour and wear Fred Perry polo's with some Stan Smiths on his feet. daftest post ive ever seen on this forum ever. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 19, 2011 18:58:55 GMT -5
yawn This thread is divided into people who are going to the gigs and people who are not. It's very easy for people not going to a gig to say that he shouldn't play Oasis songs. Didn't realise you were a mind reader, the reason I'm not going to any of the gigs is because he is playing Oasis songs. I still can't tell if you are a troll or not (speaking of which, where is BEU these days?) but that has to be the most stupid reason I have ever heard ever. |
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Post by BlueJay on Sept 19, 2011 21:56:36 GMT -5
martinpaul might just be the dumbest person on this forum, and that's saying something.
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Post by thuperthonic on Sept 19, 2011 22:51:01 GMT -5
Didn't realise you were a mind reader, the reason I'm not going to any of the gigs is because he is playing Oasis songs. The reason I went to the BE gigs was because they were putting themselves out there, prepared for the criticism of their debut album not standing up to Noel's writing, Liam's voice has gone...... yada yada. BE have/had the balls to live or die in a live environment with their own songs from a debut album. I don't care if DGSS was great/average/shit they had the balls to let it stand alone. Noel doesn't. End of story, all the Noel lovers on here can twist it anyway they like, it's not even a Noel Gallagher show, it's Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds so Noel's new band is playing Oasis songs, it's not a solo acoustic Noel gig it's his new band. It's not Liam Gallagher and Beady Eye is it?? Noel can't have it all ways, he was the main songwriter but he was also the one holding them back by playing the same fucking songs live for 20 years. Now he's playing them with his new band and everyone is saying it's amazing........... Noel might as well sell it as a nostalgia tour and wear Fred Perry polo's with some Stan Smiths on his feet. daftest post ive ever seen on this forum ever. That is offensive to NL4E. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 20, 2011 4:13:06 GMT -5
Nah, NL4E is amazing next to the likes of Martinpaul and lgfaver
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 20, 2011 4:31:36 GMT -5
For the record, I've been here for nearly a year now and I still don't see why people are so negative about NL4E. Most of the time he is one of the few who talk sense.
Still, martinpaul, if you're not going to a Noel gig cause he's playing a few Oasis songs in addition to 95% of his solo tunes...do I need to finish that sentence?
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Post by audiothief on Sept 20, 2011 5:24:02 GMT -5
yawn it's Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds so Noel's new band is playing Oasis songs, it's not a solo acoustic Noel gig it's his new band. Just wondered how this is different from Oasis playing things like Don't Look Back In Anger etc once Bonehead/Guigsy/McCarroll left the band. High Flying Birds'll have as many "original" band members playing it now as they did for the last ten years. Not baiting, just curious... |
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