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Post by bluemagpie on Sept 13, 2011 15:05:55 GMT -5
I'd like to nominate Morning Glory (he's done it electric a few times) and The Turning alt. 4#
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Sept 13, 2011 15:13:16 GMT -5
I don't mind Noel's efforts at singing Slide Away, but really he should leave it alone. One of the all-time great vocals in all of music and he can't come close to touching it. Same could be said for Liam.
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Post by Underneath the sky on Sept 13, 2011 15:19:11 GMT -5
I'm all for Slide Away and Don't Go Away, they both suit Noel's voice when he does them semi-acoustic. Hope we hear Rockin' Chair too.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 13, 2011 15:30:46 GMT -5
I hope to hear a lot more songs from the 2000s, WDIAGW like the Later... version, Idlers dream, SIOL, GP,WPTWOLWOMS, WFTR etc.... He focuses to much on the classic era during solo shows, obviously he should do the majority from this period but i would like to hear more then Importance the being Idle
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 15:37:41 GMT -5
ii want to hear him play Live Forever, when I went to see Oasis they didnt play the fucker!
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Post by space75gr on Sept 13, 2011 15:43:28 GMT -5
"Singing Stop the Clocks I struggle with that - and I won't be singing it live (...) It doesn't sound as good as the rest" imo, STC sounds amazing in that demo version.shame he s not going to play it.
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Post by alliwantisthetruth on Sept 13, 2011 16:21:58 GMT -5
I hope to hear a lot more songs from the 2000s, WDIAGW like the Later... version, Idlers dream, SIOL, GP,WPTWOLWOMS, WFTR etc.... He focuses to much on the classic era during solo shows, obviously he should do the majority from this period but i would like to hear more then Importance the being Idle I completely agree. Depending on the band hes got all of the above songs could be great. I hope he throws in a few "oddballs" like Full on, mucky fingers, LDSMD, force of nature, Magic pie....now that would awesome,
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Sept 13, 2011 23:22:47 GMT -5
20 bucks says he does "what a life(acoustic) instead of album version. I'm very sold on this.
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Post by idledreamer on Sept 14, 2011 3:44:39 GMT -5
TBH the only Liam songs I'd be in favour of are Wonderwall (only because he's sang it so many times before) and Whatever (ditto). I realise I'm a minority here. i would pay an extra $100 for my ticket if it meant i didn't have to hear that song again. i'm serious.
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Post by martinpaul on Sept 14, 2011 7:15:08 GMT -5
I realise I'm in the minority here but Noel isn't in Oasis anymore so imo he shouldn't be playing any Oasis songs. He should tour the album add in the b sides maybe a couple of covers and he has 15/16 songs that are new and are his solo project. Noel can't seem to let go, I realise he wrote the songs and they are his to play but jesus every Oasis tour became boring because it was the same songs off DM and MG all the time plus some new tunes.
It's almost as if he is scared to live or die by his new tunes alone, advertising the fact he is playing Oasis songs guarantees fans will come to hear those even if they aren't bothered by the new stuff.
It's just plain wrong imo, music is about the here and now, it should be fresh, exciting, invigorating, he has written a new album, new b sides and while I personally don't think some are very good others will and do so play those and see how they stand up in isolation.
There are many criticisms of Liam and BE but living in the past by playing Oasis songs and being scared to fail aren't 2 of them.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 14, 2011 7:42:22 GMT -5
I realise I'm in the minority here but Noel isn't in Oasis anymore so imo he shouldn't be playing any Oasis songs. He should tour the album add in the b sides maybe a couple of covers and he has 15/16 songs that are new and are his solo project. Noel can't seem to let go, I realise he wrote the songs and they are his to play but jesus every Oasis tour became boring because it was the same songs off DM and MG all the time plus some new tunes. But this time it's different. It's going to be many new songs (more than Oasis ever played since 1995) and I can't imagine a crowd being bored by Live Forever or The Masterplan. The problem with the latest Oasis shows was that they played the best 2-4 songs off each album, so many good album tracks never got played live. As long as Noel doesn't avoid HFB album tracks in favor of Oasis songs, we shouldn't complain. (Also it will definitely boost sales if people know some Oasis classics are being played.)
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Post by pototo on Sept 14, 2011 8:59:06 GMT -5
Don't look back in anger Step out The masterplan Little by little The importance of being idle
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 14, 2011 11:17:19 GMT -5
What's all this jabbering that Noel hasn't done DGA or SA justice? While I prefer the electric versions myself, Noel does very well on both acoustically - especially on Slide Away, which he packs with emotion and the "take me theres" are amazing.
Personally, I want a full blown orchestra driven performance of Going Nowhere. That would be an orgasm for my ears. Do it Noel. You know it makes sense.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 14, 2011 12:50:03 GMT -5
Don't look back in anger Step out The masterplan Little by little The importance of being idle I'm gonna go with... 1. Don't Look Back In Anger 2. The Masterplan 3. Half The World Away 4. The Importance of Being Idle 5. Slide Away 6. Wonderwall
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Post by songbirdsally on Sept 14, 2011 12:58:18 GMT -5
I realise I'm in the minority here but Noel isn't in Oasis anymore so imo he shouldn't be playing any Oasis songs. He should tour the album add in the b sides maybe a couple of covers and he has 15/16 songs that are new and are his solo project. Noel can't seem to let go, I realise he wrote the songs and they are his to play but jesus every Oasis tour became boring because it was the same songs off DM and MG all the time plus some new tunes. It's almost as if he is scared to live or die by his new tunes alone, advertising the fact he is playing Oasis songs guarantees fans will come to hear those even if they aren't bothered by the new stuff. It's just plain wrong imo, music is about the here and now, it should be fresh, exciting, invigorating, he has written a new album, new b sides and while I personally don't think some are very good others will and do so play those and see how they stand up in isolation. There are many criticisms of Liam and BE but living in the past by playing Oasis songs and being scared to fail aren't 2 of them. I agree with most of what you said. This thread already is an example of why it's wrong for him to play these Oasis tunes and even 'advertise' with them. People are basicly only discussing about which Oasis tunes they want to hear, and how he should perform them etc. We should be talking about the new material, not the old. That being said, I'm looking forward to hear some Oasis tunes as I've never seen Oasis live. But it's still the 'easy way out' for Noel. I'm convinced he should've done only new material. Or maybe like 1 Oasis song in the encore, but they shouldn't be 1/4 of the setlist and he certainly shouldn't mention he's playing them in every interview. A lot of people will only come for the Oasis songs.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 14, 2011 13:03:02 GMT -5
I realise I'm in the minority here but Noel isn't in Oasis anymore so imo he shouldn't be playing any Oasis songs. He should tour the album add in the b sides maybe a couple of covers and he has 15/16 songs that are new and are his solo project. Noel can't seem to let go, I realise he wrote the songs and they are his to play but jesus every Oasis tour became boring because it was the same songs off DM and MG all the time plus some new tunes. It's almost as if he is scared to live or die by his new tunes alone, advertising the fact he is playing Oasis songs guarantees fans will come to hear those even if they aren't bothered by the new stuff. It's just plain wrong imo, music is about the here and now, it should be fresh, exciting, invigorating, he has written a new album, new b sides and while I personally don't think some are very good others will and do so play those and see how they stand up in isolation. There are many criticisms of Liam and BE but living in the past by playing Oasis songs and being scared to fail aren't 2 of them. I agree with most of what you said. This thread already is an example of why it's wrong for him to play these Oasis tunes and even 'advertise' with them. People are basicly only discussing about which Oasis tunes they want to hear, and how he should perform them etc. We should be talking about the new material, not the old. That being said, I'm looking forward to hear some Oasis tunes as I've never seen Oasis live. But it's still the 'easy way out' for Noel. I'm convinced he should've done only new material. Or maybe like 1 Oasis song in the encore, but they shouldn't be 1/4 of the setlist and he certainly shouldn't mention he's playing them in every interview. A lot of people will only come for the Oasis songs. I think much of it has to do with him being a frontman, and his insecurities about it. I think that he feels like he'll be more comfortable if he has some songs that he knows for sure he can pull off live, and be good at them.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 14, 2011 13:38:35 GMT -5
I realise I'm in the minority here but Noel isn't in Oasis anymore so imo he shouldn't be playing any Oasis songs. He should tour the album add in the b sides maybe a couple of covers and he has 15/16 songs that are new and are his solo project. Noel can't seem to let go, I realise he wrote the songs and they are his to play but jesus every Oasis tour became boring because it was the same songs off DM and MG all the time plus some new tunes. It's almost as if he is scared to live or die by his new tunes alone, advertising the fact he is playing Oasis songs guarantees fans will come to hear those even if they aren't bothered by the new stuff. It's just plain wrong imo, music is about the here and now, it should be fresh, exciting, invigorating, he has written a new album, new b sides and while I personally don't think some are very good others will and do so play those and see how they stand up in isolation. There are many criticisms of Liam and BE but living in the past by playing Oasis songs and being scared to fail aren't 2 of them. I agree with most of what you said. This thread already is an example of why it's wrong for him to play these Oasis tunes and even 'advertise' with them. People are basicly only discussing about which Oasis tunes they want to hear, and how he should perform them etc. We should be talking about the new material, not the old. Well, there are about 50 threads discussing TDOYAM, IIHAG and WAL! here...and 1 about the Oasis songs Noel will play. I don't see what's wrong with Noel playing Oasis songs. And I doubt people would pay 50+ bucks only to see 5 or 6 Oasis songs played live without Liam. It only lures in people who are not sure whether to go or not. As for my list: Don't Look Back In Anger Live Forever The Masterplan Slide Away Wonderwall Cast No Shadow (he used to play it live all the time. still wishful thinking)
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Post by songbirdsally on Sept 14, 2011 13:47:52 GMT -5
I don't see what's wrong with Noel playing Oasis songs. And I doubt people would pay 50+ bucks only to see 5 or 6 Oasis songs played live without Liam. It only lures in people who are not sure whether to go or not. My friends didn't want to go to Beady Eye with me 'cause they wouldn't play Oasis songs. They're going to Noel with me however. And they're not even big music fans or oasis fans. I guess most of them don't know much more than DLBIA, Wonderwall, and Cigs & Alcohol.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 14, 2011 13:58:55 GMT -5
i've been saying it from day #1. I don't like the fact that he's playing Oasis songs. And yes they are Oasis songs. Noel keeps saying he "doesn't see then as Oasis songs" and that they're his songs. And i get what he's trying to say but ... sorry to say this Noel, no one really thinks of "Noel Gallagher" when they hear Live Forever or WW or CS, people think Oasis.
just like people immediately think Elton John when they hear "Tiny Dancer", just like people think Michael Jackson when they hear "Man in the mirror".
I was like, fine whatever... he'll play a couple of Oasis songs, let him play DLBIA and IOBI and maybe one more. He feels the need to play those songs for a reason. Obviously he's not confident enough in his new material, i really don't know...
but now he's making it sound like he's gonna end up playing 5 or 6 Oasis songs. Come on now.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 14, 2011 14:01:51 GMT -5
i've been saying it from day #1. I don't like the fact that he's playing Oasis songs. And yes they are Oasis songs. Noel keeps saying he "doesn't see then as Oasis songs" and that they're his songs. And i get what he's trying to say but ... sorry to say this Noel, no one really thinks of "Noel Gallagher" when they hear Live Forever or WW or CS, people think Oasis. just like people immediately think Elton John when they hear "Tiny Dancer", just like people think Michael Jackson when they hear "Man in the mirror". I was like, fine whatever... he'll play a couple of Oasis songs, let him play DLBIA and IOBI and maybe one more. He feels the need to play those songs for a reason. Obviously he's not confident enough in his new material, i really don't know... but now he's making it sound like he's gonna end up playing 5 or 6 Oasis songs. Come on now. Posted this in another thread: I think it depends on how you look at it. From a fan's perspective, they will always be Oasis songs. But try thinking of it from Noel's perspectives. These are the songs that he wrote. With his feelings, his dreams, his wishes, his ambitions, his loves, and his heartaches. These songs are a part of him, more than anyone else. More than you, more than me, more than Liam, etc. Their his in that sense, and always will be. No matter the name they were made under. So I get what Noel is saying. If Noel had made DLBIA and recorded it say with Blur, idk. Would him recording it with a band make it any less his and anymore theirs, just because he made it under the name of Blur. No. So I get what he's saying when he says, when those songs were with Oasis they were Oasis songs, but now they're mine. The only correction I would make is that his songs always were his and no one else. And I'd say the same thing with Liam. Just because I'm Outta Time was made under the Oasis name doesn't mean it's shared by everyone in the band. IOT is, and will always be a Liam song. His song, with his feelings.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 14, 2011 14:06:45 GMT -5
I think it's completely fair to say that he taking the easy way out. I think that too.
But I also think it's unfair to question whether the songs are his or not. They were his songs, long before they were Oasis' songs. Whether we identify with it under the Oasis name doesn't matter. To him and for him, they will always be his songs and his feelings.
That's what it means to be a songwriter and to write songs. imo
For Oasis fans, they will always be Oasis songs. But for Noel, they will always be his songs. It all depends on whose perspective you're looking from. And I don't think either perspective is wrong.
I just think that saying whether one perspective or the other is wrong, it wrong.
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Post by deasy on Sept 14, 2011 14:19:40 GMT -5
Noel has just as much right to choose to play songs he has written as Liam and co chose not to play songs they had written. They are his songs. He doesn't give a shit what band name they were released under. Paul Weller plays Jam song, Paul McCartney plays Beatles songs, Morrissey sings Smiths songs, Ian Brown sings Stone Roses songs and Noel will sing Oasis songs I would understand the concern about him playing Oasis songs if he had gone and formed another proper band (like if Gorillaz had gone and played Blur songs), but this is him solo and I have no problem with him doing it.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 14, 2011 14:41:37 GMT -5
Noel has just as much right to choose to play songs he has written as Liam and co chose not to play songs they had written. They are his songs. He doesn't give a shit what band name they were released under. Paul Weller plays Jam song, Paul McCartney plays Beatles songs, Morrissey sings Smiths songs, Ian Brown sings Stone Roses songs and Noel will sing Oasis songs I would understand the concern about him playing Oasis songs if he had gone and formed another proper band (like if Gorillaz had gone and played Blur songs), but this is him solo and I have no problem with him doing it. What that? Sounds like a nail being struck on the head by a hammer.
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Post by Cast on Sept 14, 2011 14:45:08 GMT -5
if you write the song then you have the right to play it. simple as that. Sure in some cases like the Gorillaz/blur case that deasy55 brought up it might be a little odd but still the writer has rights if he/she wrote it in my books.
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Post by Shockmaster on Sept 14, 2011 14:46:29 GMT -5
I've got fingers crossed for Mucky Fingers and LDSMD... But they're unlikely
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