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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2011 8:35:42 GMT -5
However, there's a strong possibility that this is the most "commercial/marketable" song, and that would be a complete and utter disaster. Hardly. I think we're all expecting a magical version of RM, at the very least. And Noel said he has 4 singles lined up - which speaks well of the album (compare this to DOYS where he stated right off the bat that it wasn't a commercial album). As people have said, you can dislike the song all you want. But your justifications and 'analysis' is what lets you down..... |
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 25, 2011 8:36:45 GMT -5
Me too is loving the different direction he is taking, love the brass.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 8:37:34 GMT -5
I think it's highly evident that BDI and Noel are going in different directions... And I am totally fine with it. Loving this singer/songwriter vibe. Noel wanted more time in the studio a la The Beatles in the 60's, to play around with the music and add to it. LAG wanted none of that, so they are parting ways both physically and musically. I think it is great! |
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Post by heartsick on Jul 25, 2011 8:39:19 GMT -5
I think he could have done better. He has done better and he will do better. Why did he push her into the pool though?
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Post by serdy on Jul 25, 2011 8:39:51 GMT -5
Well, first I think a couple things need to be said. In my opinion, people expecting something that is going to sound like DM or WTSMG are going to be perpetually disappointed, it is likely never to happen, Noel is 44, married with children, and as far as we know, not doing copious amounts of blow. There is going to be negative reactions to this song by some people, no question, but that is fine, it is not wrong to expect something different, but I just hope people can objectively look at the song for what it is.
As for the song, I have listened to it 3 times now, and while it has been on shitty monitor speakers at work, I thought it was actually very good. Great vocals, awesome production and some interesting sounds. It is different, and I love it for that. 8/10. Also, I have read a couple comments about people trying to make assumptions about how the rest of the album will be if this is the first single. We know this is not the only good song, we have heard a couple of the others, I have faith in the Chief after hearing this.
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Post by martinpaul on Jul 25, 2011 8:39:51 GMT -5
First impressions?
Boring, bang average, Noel by numbers.
Sounds EXACTLY like TIOBI (in tempo and flow) but with a choir on top.
It might grow on me but it doesn't grab you it's a safety first solo single and if this is what he has chosen as the flag bearer for his album then the album will be boring and one paced as well.
lgfaver is right, people are wanking over it bevause it's Noel and he can do no wrong. If BI had released this as their first single it would be getting slated by everyone.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jul 25, 2011 8:39:57 GMT -5
It's actually what I expected - nice melody, very slick production, and great session musician playing. It's classic Noel Gallagher in the sense that it's a nicely crafted song. Not one of his recent best - certainly not better than his superb DOYS efforts - but it's a really nice piece. The backing reminds me a lot of Badly Drawn Boy.
BUT... I just have the nagging sense that this isn't what I signed up for. As lgfaver says, I'm only listening to this as it's "Noel Gallagher". But it's not the Noel Gallagher I know and love - the one who wrote D'Yer Know What I Mean, or Fade Away, or even Bag It Up.
I don't know - perhaps it's like my Mum letting The Beatles go when they stopped being a tight Merseybeat outfit and turned into Jimi Hendrix. My Dad, of course, started liking them at exactly that point. Noel is where he is.
So it's a whistful thumbs up from me. It's obviously good, just not good in a way I like anymore. Noel, it's not you - it's me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 8:40:27 GMT -5
song = le nice
video = le crap
album artwork = gaussian blur to the max = le crap
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Post by mrmojorisen on Jul 25, 2011 8:43:20 GMT -5
Its a o.k. return from the man himself but nothing more.
Still cant wait for the album as no doubt it will be getting blasted to death for many months to come and to have our kid out there on the road again soon is only a good thing.
This music scene as we call it is piss poor these days so the more music we get out there either from noel or the beady boys isall good in my eyes.
And if am honest am more buzzing about The Twang's new single "Paradise" that has just been released on a free download today.
A quality tune from the uk's most underated band "In my eyes once again" so dont shoot me bashers...
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 25, 2011 8:43:28 GMT -5
If Beady Eye had made this then you wouldnt be coming out with these comments. I am looking foward to the rest of Noel's album but this song is a dissapointment and in comparison to Beady Eye i think it is better than maybe 3 or 4 songs on DGSS, at a push. i was waiting for this the whole day. bullshit. why should we punish a good song by beady eye just because of beady eye? i don't get it. we are all smart enough to enjoy and appreciate good music. if a noel song from the new album turns out to be shit then we just say it |
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 25, 2011 8:47:30 GMT -5
Like the brass in it, but not excited by the song. Loved TIOBI, but this is boring. I had much more grand expectations. Not gutted though, because I think the soundcheck versions of EOTR and IIHAG were ace.
In one word, UNDERWHELMED.
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 25, 2011 8:47:41 GMT -5
BUT... I just have the nagging sense that this isn't what I signed up for. As lgfaver says, I'm only listening to this as it's "Noel Gallagher". But it's not the Noel Gallagher I know and love - the one who wrote D'Yer Know What I Mean, or Fade Away, or even Bag It Up. perhaps this is a good thing. maybe he improved his songwriting a bit and gets a step back from the oasis stuff. this could get him a new crowd. and maybe he finds some new musical talents |
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Post by serdy on Jul 25, 2011 8:48:00 GMT -5
why do you have -19 karma? i think the vid is great. not sure why youre stating it so factually when its amazingly shot and noel looks cool as hell. and it keeps you interested lastly. do you seriously think liam could sing that song?  theres a specific reason songs like tiobi even sunday morning call and others were sung by noel. First off...i have a negative karma because Liam fanboys didn't like it when i criticized BDI(mainly when BTL was released) and now Noel fanboys don't like me cos i tell like it is. Like for instance, when i said i doubted Noel still had it in him to produce masterpieces like Listen Up, DLBIA(and other great early Oasis stuff), etc... well guess who was right? The video is just nonsense imo, is it beautifully shot? sure but it's still nonsense. Second...The initial bit where they show the Cafe's facade and the Noel writing is cool but the rest is ridiculous. Finally, i understand what you're saying about Noel sung songs like TIOBI and others but, i believe liam could've sang this one and it would've improved the song drastically. Kinda like what happened in Lord Don't Slow Me Down. I am not sure why anybody is really talking about the video, who cares? Listen to it without the video if you are so negative towards it. Also, I wish people would stop calling everybody who likes the song a "Noel fanboy." Guess what, it is actually possible to like the song! Now, no question there are fanboys, but don't slag everyone who says they like it (not saying you necessarily are) Lastly, you make a very bold assumption that Noel has no more masterpieces up his sleeve after only hearing one song from the album. I think you, and everyone, should just be patient and hear the album before jumping to conclusions. You may very well be correct, but in the end it is all subjective and personal taste. |
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 25, 2011 8:48:24 GMT -5
In my opinion, people expecting something that is going to sound like DM or WTSMG are going to be perpetually disappointed, it is likely never to happen, Noel is 44, married with children, and as far as we know, not doing copious amounts of blow. This, Noel won't write DLBIA-ish songs anymore, his new blueprint for now is TIOBI/FD/POTQ. |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 25, 2011 8:49:32 GMT -5
I think he could have done better. He has done better and he will do better. Why did he push her into the pool though? she hated her life but she didn't have the courage to change it herself, he gave her a little help and a push, literally. do great things, inspire. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jul 25, 2011 8:49:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that this is worse than 70% of what BDI have released. It's ok and i may not be in love with the song but i can see why others think it's great.
I'll be totally honest, i do think this song is better than some of BDI's stuff but is it better than BDI's best songs? no, to me it isn't.
Then again, this is just one song, not really fair to even start thinking of comparing the 2 acts. let's at least wait until we have NHFB's album in its entirety .
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Post by face on Jul 25, 2011 8:49:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty underwhelmed. I guess I would describe the song as painfully average, especially when this is the song so many of us have been waiting for: the first song of the Noel Gallagher Solo Era. Looking at it through that lens makes that much more disappointing.
The song itself feels like a second-rate TIOBI, minus the hooks. The TV line is dreadful. It just plods along, never going anywhere, never doing anything interesting... kind of like Liam's songwriting actually.
When the most interesting part of your comeback single is a french horn solo, you're in trouble.
4/10
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 25, 2011 8:53:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty underwhelmed. I guess I would describe the song as painfully average, especially when this is the song so many of us have been waiting for: the first song of the Noel Gallagher Solo Era. Looking at it through that lens makes that much more disappointing. The song itself feels like a second-rate TIOBI, minus the hooks. The TV line is dreadful. It just plods along, never going anywhere, never doing anything interesting... kind of like Liam's songwriting actually. When the most interesting part of your comeback single is a french horn solo, you're in trouble. 4/10 the t.v. line is the best thing about the song. and like i said, i know there are people that know what i'm talking about. genius. |
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Post by liamg4e on Jul 25, 2011 8:55:20 GMT -5
4 listens and I'm sorry to say I am very underwhelmed.
It's kinda ok, but it hasn't grabbed me, made me excited or even given me a particularly strong opinion either way, which makes this a very different experience to the BDI releases.
The overall impression is of something I have heard before, rather than a new, fresh song from a new, fresh album. The brass section is quite nice, although they are basically just filling in for a guitar solo.
I still have high hopes for the rest of the album because some of the soundcheck songs, IIHAG in particular, sound incredible, but this is just a bit anonymous. If I heard it on the radio and didn't know it was Noel I'm not sure I would pay much attention.
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Post by face on Jul 25, 2011 8:59:18 GMT -5
the t.v. line is the best thing about the song. That line is trite and cliche, not unlike the similarly embarrassing 'Don't Believe the Truth'. |
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Post by Officer Jim Kurring on Jul 25, 2011 9:00:31 GMT -5
the t.v. line is the best thing about the song. That line is trite and cliche, not unlike the similarly embarrassing 'Don't Believe the Truth'. your opinion is not my problem. God bless. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jul 25, 2011 9:03:46 GMT -5
First off...i have a negative karma because Liam fanboys didn't like it when i criticized BDI(mainly when BTL was released) and now Noel fanboys don't like me cos i tell like it is. Like for instance, when i said i doubted Noel still had it in him to produce masterpieces like Listen Up, DLBIA(and other great early Oasis stuff), etc... well guess who was right? The video is just nonsense imo, is it beautifully shot? sure but it's still nonsense. Second...The initial bit where they show the Cafe's facade and the Noel writing is cool but the rest is ridiculous. Finally, i understand what you're saying about Noel sung songs like TIOBI and others but, i believe liam could've sang this one and it would've improved the song drastically. Kinda like what happened in Lord Don't Slow Me Down. I am not sure why anybody is really talking about the video, who cares? Listen to it without the video if you are so negative towards it. Also, I wish people would stop calling everybody who likes the song a "Noel fanboy." Guess what, it is actually possible to like the song! Now, no question there are fanboys, but don't slag everyone who says they like it (not saying you necessarily are) Lastly, you make a very bold assumption that Noel has no more masterpieces up his sleeve after only hearing one song from the album. I think you, and everyone, should just be patient and hear the album before jumping to conclusions. You may very well be correct, but in the end it is all subjective and personal taste. the people i call Noel fanboys are the ones that think anything Noel releases is great(i even read a post that said High Horse Lady was actually very good the other day) and everything BDI related has been middle "pedestrian at best". I am a fans of both brothers so i don't like it when one of them gets slated. it goes both ways. However, when the song is bad, it's bad and i will say it myself. I thought BTL was terrible and it was, some people bashed the shit out of me for saying it but hey i was just speaking my mind. Now all i have said about this track is that it's not Noel's best, it's not as good as some people had said it would and that it's underwhelming/slightly disappointing. All of which is 100% true. But certain people don't like to hearing that , those people are called FANBOYS. Those same people are the ones that like to diminish everything Beady Eye does and always believe "Noel was Oasis" or "the most important part of Oasis" or "the only one with talent", etc, etc.. i mean, just go read the comments on the youtube , it's unbelievable. |
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Post by francis123 on Jul 25, 2011 9:04:17 GMT -5
the t.v. line is the best thing about the song. That line is trite and cliche, not unlike the similarly embarrassing 'Don't Believe the Truth'. and "Definitely Maybe" isnt? |
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Post by face on Jul 25, 2011 9:06:42 GMT -5
and Definitely Maybe isnt? no one claimed definitely maybe was 'genius'. |
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Post by deasy on Jul 25, 2011 9:09:40 GMT -5
the people i call Noel fanboys are the ones that think anything Noel releases is great(i even read a post that said High Horse Lady was actually very good the other day) and everything BDI related has been middle "pedestrian at best". I'm a big fan of High Horse Lady and i'm not a 'fanboy' Oh yes, anybody that likes a track you dont is automatically a fanboy. Gotcha. (And there's plenty of Noel written songs I have a strong dislike for and haven't listened to in years, so don't reply with the "you obviously are a Noel fanboy" rubbish) |
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theres a specific reason songs like tiobi even sunday morning call and others were sung by noel.
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