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Post by aaronon on Apr 22, 2011 13:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by jlzoasis on Apr 22, 2011 14:15:47 GMT -5
this. is. awesome.
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Post by deasy on Apr 22, 2011 14:17:04 GMT -5
I would still say this time next year at the earliest
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Post by daysoasis on Apr 22, 2011 15:07:09 GMT -5
What kind of quality woud it have!??....as much as i wan't a second album next week, i'd rather them take their time....a good abum is worth waiting for!!
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Post by Silence Dogood on Apr 22, 2011 15:09:30 GMT -5
they'll get it out before Noel ever does his... lol hope im wrong tho...
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Post by danBDI16 on Apr 22, 2011 15:17:38 GMT -5
Into the studio after tour in october/November, record material left from DGSS and new songs written on tour. mixing and mastering and all that...could be feb 2012 at earliest. Would be great
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Post by gaspanic23 on Apr 22, 2011 15:45:05 GMT -5
I remember someone here a while back saying Beady Eye will release their second album before Noel even coughs out his debut single. That might actually happen
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Post by thuperthonic on Apr 22, 2011 15:56:12 GMT -5
If it's true that Noel is just waiting for Beady Eye to wrap up the promotion of their record, then I would imagine Beady Eye will then have to wait out Noel's promotion, no?
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Post by thedon on Apr 22, 2011 16:00:43 GMT -5
At no point did he say they'll have an album out within months. All he meant was that they won't be touring the current album into next year.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 22, 2011 16:04:29 GMT -5
Liam isn't the most reliable source. LOL
Weren't we told during those early PG interviews that they were going to get DGSS out for summer 2010?
No way are they going to release before Noel, though. If Noel hadn't been working yet that is one thing...but he's been working for months.
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Post by craigfairlie on Apr 22, 2011 17:51:41 GMT -5
Soooond!!!
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Post by spaneli on Apr 22, 2011 18:24:13 GMT -5
I said it before they started recording DGSS, that they should take more time to record tracks. I wish they would take the time out, like a few months to just write.
I really do hope that they change their minds a bit. I wouldn't mind til' late 2012, rather than getting an album in early 2012, that might not have their best songs.
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Post by jlzoasis on Apr 22, 2011 20:08:57 GMT -5
Honestly even if Liam is wrong, and say its a year or so..its better then Noel telling us Oasis was going to take five years off. I don't believe that bands need to take there time... the Beatles put out 13 albums in SEVEN years (including a double and non album singles)....the Who 10 albums 11 years... U2 4 albums 5 years...personally I think bands today take way too long .
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Post by spaneli on Apr 22, 2011 21:08:25 GMT -5
Honestly even if Liam is wrong, and say its a year or so..its better then Noel telling us Oasis was going to take five years off. I don't believe that bands need to take there time... the Beatles put out 13 albums in SEVEN years (including a double and non album singles)....the Who 10 albums 11 years... U2 4 albums 5 years...personally I think bands today take way too long . It's hard to compare BDI to those bands. If it were Oasis, I would not welcome them to taking off extended time to do an album, but with BDI I would. There's no fixed time as to when an album should be made, but great bands are able to release a lot of GOOD or GREAT music quickly, because they are great bands. I don't think BDI fall into that category. Where they can release music as quickly as possible and still reasonably expect it to be good or great. I don't think they are that good or that greatly talented. That's not to say that I think they're bad. No, not by any stretch of the imagination. But I don't think that they're good enough, to quickly release really good quality music, consistently. I don't know if they can do that much better than DGSS, which scares me. Because sure DGSS isn't bad, but it's not great. It's a nice listen (imo), but that's really it. Some bands don't need to take extra time to release music, while some do. The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones, U2, and Oasis really didn't/don't need to take 5 years or even 2 years. But BDI are not those bands, and I think that they need a full year to a year and a half. Not just writing on the road, taking some left over songs from Oasis, maybe spending some time in the studio or a little time out of the studio writing, and then do the recording and mixing. I think this band needs more than that. I don't care about quanity, I want quality.
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Post by jlzoasis on Apr 22, 2011 21:23:10 GMT -5
Honestly even if Liam is wrong, and say its a year or so..its better then Noel telling us Oasis was going to take five years off. I don't believe that bands need to take there time... the Beatles put out 13 albums in SEVEN years (including a double and non album singles)....the Who 10 albums 11 years... U2 4 albums 5 years...personally I think bands today take way too long . It's hard to compare BDI to those bands. If it were Oasis, I would not welcome them to taking off extended time to do an album, but with BDI I would. There's no fixed time as to when an album should be made, but great bands are able to release a lot of GOOD or GREAT music quickly, because they are great bands. I don't think BDI fall into that category. Where they can release music as quickly as possible and still reasonably expect it to be good or great. I don't think they are that good or that greatly talented. That's not to say that I think they're bad. No, not by any stretch of the imagination. But I don't think that they're good enough, to quickly release really good quality music, consistently. I don't know if they can do that much better than DGSS, which scares me. Because sure DGSS isn't bad, but it's not great. It's a nice listen once in a while (imo), but that's really it. Some bands don't need to take extra time to release music, while some do. The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones, U2, and Oasis really didn't/don't need to take 5 years or even 2 years. But BDI are not those bands, and I think that they need a full year toa year and a half. Not just writing on the road, taking some left over songs from Oasis, maybe spending some time in the studio or a little time out of the studio writing, and then do the recording and mixing. I think this band needs more than that. I don't care about quanity, I want quality. But The Beatles weren't THE BEATLES when they released their first album or the second ( I am no way comparing BDI to the beatles talent wise) no one knew what the Beatles or the Who would do... There have been plenty of bands with mediocre first albums to go on and do great things....(not that the Beatles or the Who have mediocre first albums, they both could have been flash in the pans is my point.) If your theory is correct why wasn't Be Here Now as fantastic as everyone thought would be ...I mean 1995 Morning Glory...1996 tour, almost break up...Boom what January 1997? In the studio? Also with 4 years off..shouldn't have Giants been more then (in general opinion, not mine) a 7 out of 10? I totally understand what your saying but, BDI seem into it, up for it, strike while the iron is hot. Some bands lose steam...who are we to say that DGSS is all they have got?
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Post by spaneli on Apr 22, 2011 21:33:40 GMT -5
I totally understand what your saying but, BDI seem into it, up for it, strike while the iron is hot. Some bands lose steam...who are we to say that DGSS is all they have got? Don't think that DGSS even warmed the iron, or that BDI even have steam to lose tbh. Whether DGSS is their best that they can do, that will probably take about a couple more albums for any of us to find out. But to me, DGSS was a 7/10 or a 7.5/10 (depending on the day that I listen to it), looking at DGSS, their stuff with Oasis, and The Ride/Heavy Stereo music, DGSS might be close to the best that they can do. Idk, I would feel a lot better if they did take a bit more time to do this one, than they took to do DGSS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 21:41:32 GMT -5
It really doesn't matter how long it takes, because the albums they release are not going to EVER move people like the albums that they will forever be compared to. They are working against it, because of their previous successes.
Even The Beatles couldn't live up to their previous success which is why they started doing concept albums and really different material, so that fans had to evolve drastically to enjoy the music. If BDI keep releasing status-quo albums and singles then they will never grasp people the way they wish to.
[Note: Be Here Now was full of fantastic tunes that got embellished too much. The tunes were there, they just got too pissed and stoned to realize the full potential.]
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Post by spaneli on Apr 22, 2011 21:46:42 GMT -5
Even The Beatles couldn't live up to their previous success which is why they started doing concept albums and really different material, so that fans had to evolve drastically to enjoy the music. If BDI keep releasing status-quo albums and singles then they will never grasp people the way they wish to. I was thinking of making this point here. I don't know about any body else, but if I get 3 or 4 albums that are like DGSS, then I'm going to be pretty disappointed. I would like to see BDI really try to create their own sound. Cause in the end, DGSS sounded like a lower quality version of DBTT (imo). I'd like to see them break away from it. If they keep making status-quo stuff like DGSS, then it's going to be hard for me to be really excited about this band. The same can be said for Noel. When Oasis broke up, I was getting geared up for music that I wouldn't normally hear by Oasis. I want to see both break away from that. I don't think that will happen with BDI, just because Liam's bread and butter will always be retro 60's/50's rock/pop. I hope that it's a bit different for Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 21:50:38 GMT -5
Even The Beatles couldn't live up to their previous success which is why they started doing concept albums and really different material, so that fans had to evolve drastically to enjoy the music. If BDI keep releasing status-quo albums and singles then they will never grasp people the way they wish to. I was thinking of making this point here. I don't know about any body else, but if I get 3 or 4 albums that are like DGSS, then I'm going to be pretty disappointed. I would like to see BDI really try to create their own sound. Cause in the end, DGSS sounded like a lower quality version of DBTT (imo). I'd like to see them break away from it. If they keep making status-quo stuff like DGSS, then it's going to be hard for me to be really excited about this band. The same can be said for Noel. When Oasis broke up, I was getting geared up for music that I wouldn't normally hear by Oasis. I want to see both break away from that. I don't think that will happen with BDI, just because Liam's bread and butter will always be retro 60's/50's rock/pop. I hope that it's a bit different for Noel. Well stated. Agree in totality with everything you said. K+
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 21:52:24 GMT -5
I said it before they started recording DGSS, that they should take more time to record tracks. I wish they would take the time out, like a few months to just write. I really do hope that they change their minds a bit. I wouldn't mind til' late 2012, rather than getting an album in early 2012, that might not have their best songs. No fucking way. I'm 30 now and I want the next album before I die.
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Post by spaneli on Apr 22, 2011 21:55:01 GMT -5
I said it before they started recording DGSS, that they should take more time to record tracks. I wish they would take the time out, like a few months to just write. I really do hope that they change their minds a bit. I wouldn't mind til' late 2012, rather than getting an album in early 2012, that might not have their best songs. No fucking way. I'm 30 now and I want the next album before I die. You're not that old, I'm sure you'll make it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 22:02:04 GMT -5
No fucking way. I'm 30 now and I want the next album before I die. You're not that old, I'm sure you'll make it. Ah, you're a sweet old gent to say that. ;D
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Post by Leezy on Apr 23, 2011 6:09:56 GMT -5
Within months? ...No chance! Current tour takes them up to end of August, gonna take them at least another few months to demo/develop any song ideas they've got for the next album, even if they already have it all ready and demoed, then followed by a month or so to find a producer and record it all properly, then at least another few months while its mixed/mastered and artwork and everything gets sorted........ My guess would be the earliest we'll see a new album will be middle of next year.
DG,SS was recorded in June/July 2010, took another 7 months before the album was released!
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Post by BEng on Apr 23, 2011 6:26:00 GMT -5
But they can release a single 6 months prior to the album release, like Oasis did with SMS. Or just a standalone christmas single, as Whatever ;-)
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Apr 23, 2011 6:31:39 GMT -5
I like DGSS as much as BHN now and I would just be happy if they put out something as consistent. Would be really good if it's better but I don't really mind, though I want them to bring the wall of guitars back.. quite a lot.
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