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Post by ToneBender on Apr 23, 2011 8:29:17 GMT -5
If they've already got the record written and they demo the songs during sound checks, who's to say that they can't record the album, mix it and master it in a month?
Any chance we see Jeff or anyone else joining the band for the next record or will it stay a foursome in the studio? I was a bit taken aback that he was in the video for Millionaire, tbh.
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Post by jlzoasis on Apr 23, 2011 9:59:06 GMT -5
Even The Beatles couldn't live up to their previous success which is why they started doing concept albums and really different material, so that fans had to evolve drastically to enjoy the music. If BDI keep releasing status-quo albums and singles then they will never grasp people the way they wish to. I was thinking of making this point here. I don't know about any body else, but if I get 3 or 4 albums that are like DGSS, then I'm going to be pretty disappointed. I would like to see BDI really try to create their own sound. Cause in the end, DGSS sounded like a lower quality version of DBTT (imo). I'd like to see them break away from it. If they keep making status-quo stuff like DGSS, then it's going to be hard for me to be really excited about this band. The same can be said for Noel. When Oasis broke up, I was getting geared up for music that I wouldn't normally hear by Oasis. I want to see both break away from that. I don't think that will happen with BDI, just because Liam's bread and butter will always be retro 60's/50's rock/pop. I hope that it's a bit different for Noel. I agree with you that retro is Liam's bread & butter... thats not going to change, they will not be innovative. Its come to the point where I look at it as a genre like Opera...people still record that and it still sounds like it did a 100 years ago. and people still buy it. BDI are what they are, you like them or you don't. As for Noel, I will be disappointed with a album full of borrowed 60's psychedelic rock....  |
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Post by Marcos on Apr 23, 2011 11:26:14 GMT -5
In all honesty, I tend to believe Liam a lot more than Noel when they speak about their plans. Specially when Liam says "we're not getting any younger", so I believe we'll have the second album sooner than expected.
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Post by oneeye on Apr 23, 2011 11:34:51 GMT -5
I said it before they started recording DGSS, that they should take more time to record tracks. I wish they would take the time out, like a few months to just write. I really do hope that they change their minds a bit. I wouldn't mind til' late 2012, rather than getting an album in early 2012, that might not have their best songs. No fucking way. I'm 30 now and I want the next album before I die. if they have the songs pretty much written - then why not??? That's why we were all annoyed with Oasis for taking too long between albums in the end. |
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Post by oneeye on Apr 23, 2011 11:37:15 GMT -5
In reality though - I reckon 2nd half of 2011 would be a better time line for it's release!
And definitely after the Euro 2012 and of course the Olympics
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Post by spaneli on Apr 23, 2011 12:20:02 GMT -5
I was thinking of making this point here. I don't know about any body else, but if I get 3 or 4 albums that are like DGSS, then I'm going to be pretty disappointed. I would like to see BDI really try to create their own sound. Cause in the end, DGSS sounded like a lower quality version of DBTT (imo). I'd like to see them break away from it. If they keep making status-quo stuff like DGSS, then it's going to be hard for me to be really excited about this band. The same can be said for Noel. When Oasis broke up, I was getting geared up for music that I wouldn't normally hear by Oasis. I want to see both break away from that. I don't think that will happen with BDI, just because Liam's bread and butter will always be retro 60's/50's rock/pop. I hope that it's a bit different for Noel. I agree with you that retro is Liam's bread & butter... thats not going to change, they will not be innovative. Its come to the point where I look at it as a genre like Opera...people still record that and it still sounds like it did a 100 years ago. and people still buy it. BDI are what they are, you like them or you don't. As for Noel, I will be disappointed with a album full of borrowed 60's psychedelic rock.... Large number of people don't want dad rock, but they don't want dry acoustics. They don't want him to do the Oasis sound over again, but they don't want him to do anything too crazy, and they don't want an album full of borrowed psychedelia riffs. I think we're running out of genres. Do people want him to do a Blues or Jazz Fusion album instead?  |
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Post by daysoasis on Apr 23, 2011 13:49:52 GMT -5
Some'o youz don't give enough credit to BE imo!!and i can see why...the album was made right way, so obviuosly- you could only think and apply ideas that are worth that time span.I agree with Spaneli -on that they should really take more time to create and also just as much, it's important for them not to loose their steam(as Jenny was saying)...so they should hit the studios right away, after the tour.
I say we have'nt seen the best of BE yet!!.They're gonna feel the pressure to make the 2nd album better.Now that LIBERTY is one of the key words in the band.....creative juices will flow-with them knowing that they will see the light of day, in wich turns will hopefully open up the door to wider ideas!!
If any of the three will object to the sound they're doing now it's Andy and as he goes I have a feeling Gem will agree with him.The only one obviuosly that would disagree is Liam.
And in an interview where Andy mentioned about "first album being a hall pass to showcase your influence"...that hints to me Andy has other things in mind for the second release.All they gotta do with lg is sit him down and *try* to convince him that"look we've exhausted this 60's thing and if he's still not on board than they can arrange for just his songs to ramain that way and the two something new...no?
A few dad rock songs in an album, I like that just as long as the rest are diverse!!
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Post by gdforever on Apr 23, 2011 14:09:27 GMT -5
In all honesty, I tend to believe Liam a lot more than Noel when they speak about their plans. Specially when Liam says "we're not getting any younger", so I believe we'll have the second album sooner than expected. But Liam doesn't seem to be very practical. Case in point his assertion is 2009 that DGSS would be out mid 2010. He's not lying. He's just unrealistic about the amount of time things will take. I'd believe Noel about a timeline before I'd believe Liam. I might like Liam's timetable better...but Noels are more reliable. |
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Post by Marcos on Apr 23, 2011 14:30:41 GMT -5
In all honesty, I tend to believe Liam a lot more than Noel when they speak about their plans. Specially when Liam says "we're not getting any younger", so I believe we'll have the second album sooner than expected. But Liam doesn't seem to be very practical. Case in point his assertion is 2009 that DGSS would be out mid 2010. He's not lying. He's just unrealistic about the amount of time things will take. I'd believe Noel about a timeline before I'd believe Liam. I might like Liam's timetable better...but Noels are more reliable. Well, maybe. But I remember that the release of Time Flies postponed the release of DGSS. The album was supposed to be out in late 2010 I think. Liam talks about this in an interview. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 23, 2011 14:56:50 GMT -5
But Liam doesn't seem to be very practical. Case in point his assertion is 2009 that DGSS would be out mid 2010. He's not lying. He's just unrealistic about the amount of time things will take. I'd believe Noel about a timeline before I'd believe Liam. I might like Liam's timetable better...but Noels are more reliable. Well, maybe. But I remember that the release of Time Flies postponed the release of DGSS. The album was supposed to be out in late 2010 I think. Liam talks about this in an interview. Marcos is right, Liam did talk about having to delay DGSS in order to get some "Oasis stuff out the way...", and then a couple of weeks later Time Flies was announced. So Liam's timeline wasn't that far off, tbf. |
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Post by agnhi on Apr 23, 2011 17:05:42 GMT -5
Any chance we see Jeff or anyone else joining the band for the next record or will it stay a foursome in the studio? I was a bit taken aback that he was in the video for Millionaire, tbh. It's not the first time he was in Beady Eye video. And if we think back to Oasis, they had the most random guys hanging around in videos, like the guy who was standing in for Guigsy for a while is in Wonderwall vid. The fact Jeff was in the cover of Millionaire single was more odd... |
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Post by jlzoasis on Apr 23, 2011 17:50:19 GMT -5
I agree with you that retro is Liam's bread & butter... thats not going to change, they will not be innovative. Its come to the point where I look at it as a genre like Opera...people still record that and it still sounds like it did a 100 years ago. and people still buy it. BDI are what they are, you like them or you don't. As for Noel, I will be disappointed with a album full of borrowed 60's psychedelic rock.... Large number of people don't want dad rock, but they don't want dry acoustics. They don't want him to do the Oasis sound over again, but they don't want him to do anything too crazy, and they don't want an album full of borrowed psychedelia riffs. I think we're running out of genres. Do people want him to do a Blues or Jazz Fusion album instead? LOL!! that would probably be the album the critics would love !! |
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Post by Leezy on Apr 23, 2011 18:42:10 GMT -5
Liams just chattin shite, album definitely wont be out til mid next year at the earliest! Fuckin prove me wrong Liam you prat... oh!.. and get a FUCKIN HAIRCUT!!!
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Post by gdforever on Apr 23, 2011 19:00:53 GMT -5
But Liam doesn't seem to be very practical. Case in point his assertion is 2009 that DGSS would be out mid 2010. He's not lying. He's just unrealistic about the amount of time things will take. I'd believe Noel about a timeline before I'd believe Liam. I might like Liam's timetable better...but Noels are more reliable. Well, maybe. But I remember that the release of Time Flies postponed the release of DGSS. The album was supposed to be out in late 2010 I think. Liam talks about this in an interview. If Liam has to wait until the end of TF and Noel had to wait until the end of BDI I am sure they'll make them wait until Noel is done a good amount of his promo. Not so much out of respect of Noel as much as the fact that they are only employing one office between them and I think that the office might not be up to doing everything that needs to be done for both the brothers @ the same time. I don't think the release is totally up to Liam so I don't think he actually knows. I DO believe that BDI will be going right back into the studio. Just am not confident that we will GET the album in the timeframe he is suggesting. My point was that Liam talks before he thinks it through and knows for sure. Noel has been denying doing anything. But if he were to surprisingly mention that he was going to have a single out this summer on his DJ stint tomorrow, I would be more confident than I am that we well be getting the next BDI album with a year. |
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Post by Marcos on Apr 23, 2011 20:42:14 GMT -5
Well, maybe. But I remember that the release of Time Flies postponed the release of DGSS. The album was supposed to be out in late 2010 I think. Liam talks about this in an interview. If Liam has to wait until the end of TF and Noel had to wait until the end of BDI I am sure they'll make them wait until Noel is done a good amount of his promo. Not so much out of respect of Noel as much as the fact that they are only employing one office between them and I think that the office might not be up to doing everything that needs to be done for both the brothers @ the same time. I don't think the release is totally up to Liam so I don't think he actually knows. I DO believe that BDI will be going right back into the studio. Just am not confident that we will GET the album in the timeframe he is suggesting. My point was that Liam talks before he thinks it through and knows for sure. Noel has been denying doing anything. But if he were to surprisingly mention that he was going to have a single out this summer on his DJ stint tomorrow, I would be more confident than I am that we well be getting the next BDI album with a year. Oh that's right. I forgot about them having the same office and people working for them. Makes a lot of sense what you said, really. A friend of mine interviewed Andy a couple of months ago to the brazillian Oasis/Beady eye website by telephone (I know it's true because I've listened to the audio file of it) and when asked about a new album he answered: "you (the fans) won't get it instantly but we're gonna start working on it immediatelly (after touring)". He said that focusing they won't be recording the album as soon as the tour is finished. They're gonna make demos and write a few more tunes and then go to the studio. |
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Post by manualex on Apr 23, 2011 21:51:08 GMT -5
Link of that, I would like to hear that interview(not that i dont trust you Marcos)
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Apr 24, 2011 8:05:45 GMT -5
There is no correlation whatsoever between the quality of an album and the time it took to produce.
Noel's better songs were always the ones he wrote in "10 minutes" in the studio anyway. I'm not a musician in any way but I'd imagine you are at your most productive when you're in the right frame of mind, so you're more likely to write 3 good songs in quick succession rather than writing one then taking a break.
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Post by ToneBender on Apr 24, 2011 8:29:57 GMT -5
Any chance we see Jeff or anyone else joining the band for the next record or will it stay a foursome in the studio? I was a bit taken aback that he was in the video for Millionaire, tbh. It's not the first time he was in Beady Eye video. And if we think back to Oasis, they had the most random guys hanging around in videos, like the guy who was standing in for Guigsy for a while is in Wonderwall vid. The fact Jeff was in the cover of Millionaire single was more odd... Well a few thoughts on that... The other videos were more performance videos where it would've seemed really odd to not have a bassist visible! This was a "hanging out as a bunch of guys on a road trip" video which had Jeff in the inner circle. That, and the cover, says a lot to me about his role in the group. What it says, I don't know, but it says something!!  With re: to the Wonderwall video, if I remember correctly, at the time Guigsy was assumed to have quit the band, not taken a break. When Scott quit unexpectedly is when Guigsy got back on board full time and it was explained as a "break for exhaustion" rather than "a break from quitting". I'd personally love to see Jeff join the band. I think a fresh and younger (how old is he? He looks like he's about 22!) perspective in the band would be a good thing. |
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Post by deasy on Apr 24, 2011 13:44:23 GMT -5
Jeff won't be joining the band. He is working on his own stuff all the time. I can't imagine him giving up his own band to play bass for a band whos members are twice his age.
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Post by basiloasis1974 on Apr 25, 2011 0:26:16 GMT -5
Good thread. Enjoyed reading that. I'm just glad were gunna get the 2nd album by the end of 2012. That'll do nicely for me. Better than waiting 24 to 30 months for each Oasis album.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Apr 25, 2011 1:48:01 GMT -5
Noel and Liam always say this sort of stuff - the new album will be recorded and out soon - and it's two years before we hear anything new.
Hope I'm wrong but I'm guessing early 2013 for the new Beady Eye album.
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 25, 2011 4:40:00 GMT -5
He doesn't really say 'within months', but I think we can definitely expect it sooner then we could expect an Oasis album, cause that was the main thing Liam was complaining about in Oasis. + He wants to prove they're different from Oasis. I do think though they'll have to wait until Noels promo is finished. So my guess for the timeplan would be: first Noel announcements & single late this summer, album by the end of 2011 (november). Beady Eye will probably start demoiing by then (after their tour) en recording early 2012 with maybe (hopefully) a first single for summer 2012 I don't think they should necessarily take more time for the album. They gotta do what they want to do. And if they are 'on fire' and have tunes ready for the second album, why not? |
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Post by danBDI16 on Apr 25, 2011 5:26:20 GMT -5
According to MSN India ( I know!  ) 'London, April 25 (IANS) Singer Liam Gallagher is planning to release a second album with his new band Beady Eye by the end of this year, since the rocker doesn't want the group to become complacent with their success like they did in Oasis' news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5137713 believe it when i see it! |
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Post by alwaysnow on Apr 25, 2011 11:21:31 GMT -5
It would be great news if Jeff was to join the band, but it's very, very unlikely.
If Beady Eye could get a few tunes that sound close to his work with The Black Marquee, I'd be extremely pleased. They should nick them ;D
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Post by spaneli on Apr 25, 2011 11:51:47 GMT -5
There is no correlation whatsoever between the quality of an album and the time it took to produce. Noel's better songs were always the ones he wrote in "10 minutes" in the studio anyway. I'm not a musician in any way but I'd imagine you are at your most productive when you're in the right frame of mind, so you're more likely to write 3 good songs in quick succession rather than writing one then taking a break. Yes, there is no correlation of how long you work in the STUDIO on an album and how good it will be. But one thing that is proven is that you need plenty of time before you go into the studio to write. I said that a year and half ago, that it was not good enough for BDI to just take old demos and try to do everything in the studio. And I hold with that opinion. It takes time to write an album. With Noel writing songs in the studio, that's been a MYTH. Noel rarely writes anything in the studio. If you did a list of songs that Noel has actually written in the studio, the list would be pretty short, and it would not include his best songs. Supersonic rarely happens. If you actually go back and look at Oasis albums, there's 1 album that we can say had more than 2 songs written in studio and that's DOYS. If we are to believe Noel, no song on WTSMG was written out of studio. He even says that "he took them to the back of the tour bus and played them the whole album." DM- I think there were 2, maybe only 1, that was actually written in the studio and that's Supersonic, with Slide Away being a maybe. Because apparently Slide Away started as just a page a lyrics, then it turned into a vocal, and then Noel built the chords around it. So even Slide Away was technically not written in the studio. No Noel song from DBTT was written in the studio. I don't think that Noel has ever said that any part of SOTSOG was written while in studio. Same with HC. Even Noel says that he almost always demos before he goes in. So this myth that Noel just writes shit in studio at a drop of a hat and its always some of his best work, is a flat out lie. Guarantee you, if you look at any great songwriter and their work, you'll almost never find a songwriter than consistently goes into the studio and just writes the most brilliant stuff. If it were that easy then believe me, Noel would have written all his stuff in the studio. It takes time to write a good album. When most artists say that there is no correlation of how long it takes to make an album to how good it is, they're usually talking about how long you stay in the studio to make an album. But just about every songwriter knows, that it takes more than a couple of months to write a good album. Even if you have multiple songwriters working on an album. |
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