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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 12, 2011 12:15:52 GMT -5
I like the song, don't get me wrong (although it really is a slow downed version of It's A Small World After All)
But it's not a classic for me because it lacks dynamics. The style and vibe is similar to RM, but RM is interesting - it builds to an epic ending with a guitar break in there too.
TBGO is just too bland. It has potential, but it just doesn't go anywhere. Once you heard the first verse and chorus, you've heard the entire song.
Still can't believe the few who think it's better than TMP.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 12, 2011 12:18:16 GMT -5
It's missing something as great as that middle 8 in RM...I really love that bit. Was listening to it a few times in a row yesterday.
I do hope it ends up on an album and Noel does it justice.
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Post by Stemot on Mar 12, 2011 12:18:36 GMT -5
Does this really have to be another "opinions" topic?
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Post by gdforever on Mar 12, 2011 12:21:07 GMT -5
Does this really have to be another "opinions" topic? They are all opinion topics unless we are posting a news story, review, interview, or chart position. And even those subsequently turn into opinion threads about the review, interview, or what chart positions even mean. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Mar 12, 2011 12:31:37 GMT -5
The comparison between RM and TBGO isn't a bad one. It is true that Noel's songs have the tendency to develop, while many BDI tunes stay the same from the beginning (FA, BTL, TBGO, Millionaire).
Personally, I loved TBGO when I first heard it...but somehow I don't like it as much now, while most other BDI tunes are growing on me.
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Post by oneeye on Mar 12, 2011 14:53:15 GMT -5
The comparison between RM and TBGO isn't a bad one. It is true that Noel's songs have the tendency to develop, while many BDI tunes stay the same from the beginning (FA, BTL, TBGO, Millionaire). Personally, I loved TBGO when I first heard it...but somehow I don't like it as much now, while most other BDI tunes are growing on me. I know what you mean, Noel's songs have more of a story about them, BDI are very repetitive - both the lyrics and guitars - you want something more from them. |
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Post by webbie on Mar 12, 2011 14:59:43 GMT -5
TBGO WILL be a classic for the live gigs, it's the one that stands out from the rest, the crowd knew this one the most out of all of them and it had that DLBIA feel about it! If u ave only heard it on the album then yeah u don't get this feelin but live it's a different story. I'm sure if u have been the gigs u will agree!
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Post by aaronon on Mar 12, 2011 15:30:26 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what "RM" and "TMP" stand for?
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Post by shoes222 on Mar 12, 2011 15:38:22 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what "RM" and "TMP" stand for? RM = Record Machine TMP = The Masterplan And you call yourself an Oasis fan.  |
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Post by icebreath on Mar 12, 2011 15:39:07 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what "RM" and "TMP" stand for? RM=I wanna live a dream in my Record Machine TMP=The Masterplan |
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Post by gdforever on Mar 12, 2011 15:56:30 GMT -5
I think I usually just write TM for the The Masterplan...
Do people usually write TMP...because that looks weird to me...
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Post by shoes222 on Mar 12, 2011 16:03:24 GMT -5
I've only seen NL4E abbreviate it like that actually, but I still instantly knew what he was referring to. Generally I don't abbreviate that song at all, considering it's basically a one word title.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 12, 2011 16:37:58 GMT -5
I've only seen NL4E abbreviate it like that actually, but I still instantly knew what he was referring to. Generally I don't abbreviate that song at all, considering it's basically a one word title. I knew what he meant. Just didn't remember ever seeing it abbreviated that way |
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Post by BasementGuitarist on Mar 12, 2011 16:56:41 GMT -5
SATFACTSOOM = Sometimes All These Fucking Abbreviations Confuse The Shit Out Of Me  |
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Post by Beadasis on Mar 12, 2011 17:19:06 GMT -5
SATFACTSOOM = Sometimes All These Fucking Abbreviations Confuse The Shit Out Of Me This. I'm able to recognize most of the abbreviations, but pretty frequently I'll come across one I don't even have a clue about. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 12, 2011 17:55:54 GMT -5
Now...I aint saying its a classic...but I personally love it. The only thing I think could be better is the outro but I can live with it. I love it, TMS is slowly moving above it now for me has to be said, but saying that, I think its a journery of a track. Just adore it.
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Post by MacaRonic on Mar 12, 2011 18:05:03 GMT -5
I didn't get the verses in the beginning but now I think the whole song is just fantastic. What else do you people want? Andy's best ever song IMO.
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Post by Rifles on Mar 12, 2011 18:29:42 GMT -5
I agree it's definitely not a classic. I've never been a fan of the song. I guess a lot of fans are dying for another killer ballad like Wonderwall or DLBIA. TBGO is just not there. Put it next to the "classics" and i'll bet you go "yeahhhh, nevermind - that doesn't look right".
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Post by webbie on Mar 12, 2011 18:55:40 GMT -5
Again ur all goin back to compare to
Oasis, it's a 'beady eye classic' already, sort it out boys!
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Post by bluemagpie on Mar 12, 2011 19:10:40 GMT -5
Classics aren't made in a month, live or not. TBGO may well earn "BDI classic" status, but it's way too early to tell. And of course it's nowhere near the caliber of Oasis classics like The Masterplan, I don't understand why that was up for debate on here in the first place.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 12, 2011 19:56:30 GMT -5
Classics aren't made in a month, live or not. TBGO may well earn "BDI classic" status, but it's way too early to tell. And of course it's nowhere near the caliber of Oasis classics like The Masterplan, I don't understand why that was up for debate on here in the first place. Addressing your point (and Webbie's above): You are making a wrong deduction by saying if it's a BDI classic then it qualifies as a classic song. It doesn't really work like that. I'm sure Justin Bieber has songs that he's proud of that would warrant his fans calling a classic song on the album, but will they stand up to the all time greatest songs? Of course not. Point made. This isn't suppose to be a blight on BDI because I am very proud of what they have done, but if their classics are the likes of TBGO - which almost everyone on here has admitted is far behind Oasis' best work - then that speaks volumes of the quality. DGSS is a very good album, but it's so obviously lacking that extra something. In a way, DGSS is Arsenal: It has the elements, but can't finish it off properly. |
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Post by bluemagpie on Mar 12, 2011 21:56:09 GMT -5
Classics aren't made in a month, live or not. TBGO may well earn "BDI classic" status, but it's way too early to tell. And of course it's nowhere near the caliber of Oasis classics like The Masterplan, I don't understand why that was up for debate on here in the first place. Addressing your point (and Webbie's above): You are making a wrong deduction by saying if it's a BDI classic then it qualifies as a classic song. It doesn't really work like that. I'm sure Justin Bieber has songs that he's proud of that would warrant his fans calling a classic song on the album, but will they stand up to the all time greatest songs? Of course not. Point made. This isn't suppose to be a blight on BDI because I am very proud of what they have done, but if their classics are the likes of TBGO - which almost everyone on here has admitted is far behind Oasis' best work - then that speaks volumes of the quality. DGSS is a very good album, but it's so obviously lacking that extra something. In a way, DGSS is Arsenal: It has the elements, but can't finish it off properly. I actually agree with you, I was referring to how Webbie said it was a BDI classic. Personally, I don't think BDI have the makings of any genuine classics. I enjoy their music and I'll see them live if at all possible, but the fact is they just don't have the songs to be a truly great band. In the month since the album leaked I haven't been inclined to listen to it more than a few times, and that says a lot to me. The best of luck to them, but at the moment the quality of their collective songwriting isn't high enough to really impress me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2011 22:31:27 GMT -5
Nothing on this album is classic, and it will never be classic to anyone other then those heavily invested in the band. That said,
lately I have been listening to the album as follows . . . FLW,WUD,3RC,TBGO,TMS. Thats it. For some reason I have no desire to hear the rest of the album. It doesn't do anything for me.
Seeing as TBGO is still listenable to me, I would say that it is an above average tune, but nothing more. Not stellar or earth shattering. It does drag a bit, and is insanely repetitive, but enjoyable.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 12, 2011 22:44:53 GMT -5
DGSS is an odd one. I find it very enjoyable to listen to. However, there's no real epics on it but there's no real shit tracks on it either. I think a slightly above average rating represents this, then. I think that's fair.
I can only imagine if Noel was involved with TBGO (even though I know he didn't really work in collaboration). He has the ability to turn that song into a monster epic (again, I reference RM).
I hate to say it, and will be bashed by some, that while DGSS is a great effort from LAG it really lacks Noel's songwriting influence.
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Mar 12, 2011 22:50:58 GMT -5
The comparison between RM and TBGO isn't a bad one. It is true that Noel's songs have the tendency to develop, while many BDI tunes stay the same from the beginning (FA, BTL, TBGO, Millionaire). Personally, I loved TBGO when I first heard it...but somehow I don't like it as much now, while most other BDI tunes are growing on me. Exactly the same case for me. My liking for TBGO has slowly declined since the first listen while the others took the opposite direction, even SOTEOTN. I think it would be better if the song builds up like TMS, there's so much potential but they missed it. I don't think neither Noel nor BDI could ever write "classics" again. They need something that makes them even more special than the other ones, things like time and history, which I like to refer to as nostalgia even if it is a very indirect form of it. There are plenty of "really good" songs out there but only a selected few like Wonderwall become classics. As we all know, their big historical moment was the mid 90s and it's pretty much gone now. |
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