rkidcd
Oasis Roadie
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Post by rkidcd on Mar 13, 2011 20:14:32 GMT -5
It's a list with ors not ands. Thing A or thing B or Thing C...not thing A and thing B and Thing C. I never said any one thing was essential...let alone that a classic song required all of them. I said a song needs something that makes it exceptional. And the list are some of the things other than basic song structure that I think can give a tune that extra boost. A song also doesn't need an amazing chorus to be a classic...but it can be the thing that boosts it to the next level. o................kay, i'll keep that in mind next time I post. maybe? |
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Post by thedon on Mar 13, 2011 21:40:14 GMT -5
If I was king...
The people that abbreviate song titles would be fucking beheaded straight away. Are you really that lazy that you can't type out the full title? Fucking vaginas. Utter, utter fucking vaginas.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 13, 2011 22:05:32 GMT -5
It's a list with ors not ands. Thing A or thing B or Thing C...not thing A and thing B and Thing C. I never said any one thing was essential...let alone that a classic song required all of them. I said a song needs something that makes it exceptional. And the list are some of the things other than basic song structure that I think can give a tune that extra boost. A song also doesn't need an amazing chorus to be a classic...but it can be the thing that boosts it to the next level. o................kay, i'll keep that in mind next time I post. maybe? Maybe just read the post you are replying to...that's all. |
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Post by oasisfanboy on Mar 13, 2011 22:10:44 GMT -5
If I was king... The people that abbreviate song titles would be fucking beheaded straight away. Are you really that lazy that you can't type out the full title? Fucking vaginas. Utter, utter fucking vaginas. STFU! |
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Mar 14, 2011 9:12:58 GMT -5
If I was king... The people that abbreviate song titles would be fucking beheaded straight away. Are you really that lazy that you can't type out the full title? Fucking vaginas. Utter, utter fucking vaginas. STFU! Lolz Noel was adept at writing bridges that really pulled the entire song to another level, and making the verses really strong by trying not to repeat the same melodies over and over. But tbh I don't give a shit about it. Every song is special in its own way, and it doesn't really matter as long as it's more creative than PYMWYMI or LJ. The "and it's not the end of the world, oh no, it's not even the end of the day" line nicely works as a semi-bridge by giving it an amazing variation to the original melody. And that is one of the purest reasons why people so dig this tune. |
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Post by tofufish on Mar 20, 2011 22:16:56 GMT -5
sounds just like keep the dream alive
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Post by spaneli on Mar 20, 2011 22:52:33 GMT -5
The day that the album leaked, I was one of the few people who said that there was nothing special about TBGO and that it went nowhere. Also said it was a song that summed up the album. Because in the end DGSS was an album full of lost potential. I got blasted by some people for saying that.
DGSS is a solid album with solid songs, but there really is not that one slam dunk song. I got that on the first listen. TBGO was good for the first minute, and then got repetitive and just down right sappy. Now to clear things up, I don't think that TBGO is a bad song, before someone blast me again for some how having a vendetta against Liam and Co. All I am saying and all that I have ever said is that "there's nothing really special about TBGO, or any of the songs on DGSS"
A lot of BDI's song do not develop. Their melodies leave a lot to be desired (especially when one plays them to himself on his acoustic). When your melodies fall a bit short, the song is usually destined to fall short. BDI's melodies aren't bad, just not good enough. (and when I say melodies, I mean melodic chord structures.)
For all the crap that Noel takes when it comes to his really bad songs (like ICSAL), I can always take ICSAL and play it to myself on a acoustic and it sounds good. His melodic structures are always spot on. Now, does a good melodic structure guarantee a good song? No, of course not. But it does set you up to success. When you're making songs with less to be desired melodic structures, then you've already started at a dis-advantage.
The story of DGSS was missed potential. A lot of the songs could have been miles better, if they had been developed just a bit more.
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Post by styles on Mar 21, 2011 12:53:01 GMT -5
Anyone else not give a toss about melodic structures?
I know I don't..I could care less about advanced middle 8's and bridges etc..
I hear a song...I like it...or I don't.
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Post by alwaysnow on Mar 21, 2011 13:13:55 GMT -5
Anyone else not give a toss about melodic structures? I know I don't..I could care less about advanced middle 8's and bridges etc.. I hear a song...I like it...or I don't. I completely agree, well said. |
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Post by gdforever on Mar 21, 2011 14:16:44 GMT -5
Anyone else not give a toss about melodic structures? I know I don't..I could care less about advanced middle 8's and bridges etc.. I hear a song...I like it...or I don't. You have no shades of gray in your musical tastes? And that is what we are discussing, shades of gray. I am sure there must be songs that you love as opposed to those you like...and that is basically what is being discussed here. There is nothing wrong with someone listening to the music with a different ear than you yourself do. |
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Post by styles on Mar 22, 2011 10:12:18 GMT -5
Whats the point of trying to pick it apart though? Like the guy said earlier on in the thread, Bob Dylan has wrote some of the greatest songs of all time yet are any of them really that complex? I understand that a lot of you might play music and may be interested in the make-up of a song, but are Beady Eye really the type of band that you want to be doing that to? You know you aren't going to get anything groundbreaking with originality...
BTW I would just like to say that I don't believe the album to be a classic, however it genuinely exceeded my expectations with how good it was.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 22, 2011 10:29:19 GMT -5
Damned by faint praise.
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Post by The Spider And The Fly on Mar 22, 2011 12:07:37 GMT -5
TBGO is no Stairway to Heaven. TBGO is no Ticket to Ride. TBGO is no Satisfaction. So if you wanted to pick a Beady Eye song to get somebody to like their music, People would choose TBGO? Baby Come on. Personally TBGO lyrics are embarrassing.
I would rather listen to Sonny and Cher's song TBGO. This is more of a classic song then BDIs TBGO. Sorry guys.............
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Post by RocketMan on Mar 22, 2011 12:21:32 GMT -5
TBGO is no Stairway to Heaven. TBGO is no Ticket to Ride. TBGO is no Satisfaction. So if you wanted to pick a Beady Eye song to get somebody to like their music, People would choose TBGO? Baby Come on. Personally TBGO lyrics are embarrassing. I would rather listen to Sonny and Cher's song TBGO. This is more of a classic song then BDIs TBGO. Sorry guys............. you're so true. beady eyes tbgo is just awful. i can't stand it |
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Post by shoes222 on Mar 22, 2011 12:28:10 GMT -5
I also am very biased against songs that have the word "song" in them, or allude to the fact that they are singing a song. It just feels campy to me.
So the "someday all the world will sing my song" and "are you singing along" bits make me cringe and automatically rule this one out as a classic, at least for my sensibilities.
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