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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 18, 2011 7:42:03 GMT -5
16 million? That's a lot more than I knew before  The only ones who actually consume it are the old guys who believe dog meat makes your genitals healthier. Who could have known there were so many old guys with weak genitals in my country. Okay, this poll has really bugged me quite a bit, so I just took a proper listen to the two songs and concluded: TBGO is not near many of the DM&MG classics, but TM is just lacking for me. To be specific, Noel's singing on that song disrupts me from properly feeling the amazing lyrics for some reason. Though I'm not a native English speaker, I can understand pretty much of the spoken lyrics. TM is unfortunately one of the few exceptions. On the other hand, right after the first chorus TBGO gets amazingly better, with "it's not even the end of the day" line touching my heart. And it was a really good choice to let it fade out. So, with a paper-thin gap, I chose TBGO over TM. I clarified myself and I will never return to this thread again. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 18, 2011 11:47:35 GMT -5
Someone should type up the opening of the Getting High book where the Masterplan is being discussed. I would, but I don't have the book with me right now, and I'm too lazy, but that 2 page description or so sums it up wonderfully. MP is a classic.
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 19, 2011 4:50:17 GMT -5
I can't vote this poll as I haven't listened to The Beat Goes On, but personally I really think The Masterplan is one of Noel Gallagher's masterpieces. A song like this will remain for years and years.
I don't agree that the Oasis songs from 1994 - 1998 aren't classics cos many of them are classic. I don't live in nostalgy, but I do believe that many Oasis songs from that era mean a lot to many of us on here, including me.
It's too sad to read some posts on this thread which has nothig to do with this poll.
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Post by songbirdsally on Feb 19, 2011 5:32:40 GMT -5
Someone should type up the opening of the Getting High book where the Masterplan is being discussed. I would, but I don't have the book with me right now, and I'm too lazy, but that 2 page description or so sums it up wonderfully. MP is a classic. I've got too much time on my hands, so here you go  Little introduction: The book starts with Liam entering the room were Noel is eating and saying 'What the fuck do you think you're doing' He claims Noel mixed 'Round Are Way' wrong and ruined the song. Noel is off course furious. The two head back to the studio where producer Owen Morris is mixing. The fight goes on, now about something with Guigsy & Liam in France (does anywone know what they are referring to here?). Argument gets very heated and then: Excerpt: 'Look', Owen interjects, raising his hands like a boxin referee who wants to stop a fight, 'can we please just listen to the mix.' Before either Noel or Liam can say a word, Owen turns back to the desk, pushes a large button and the sound of a gentle acoustic guitar drifts in, its melody counterpointed by soft notes from a shimmering electric guitar. The guitars are joined by some slow swooping orchestral strings which add another melody before Noel's voice enters, plaintitive but strong. This is 'The Masterplan'. He sings, 'Take the time to make some sense/ Of what you want to say/ And cast your words away upon the waves/ And sail them home with aquiesce upon a ship of hope toda/ And as they land upon the shore/ Tell them not to fear no more.'
Now the orchestra gets louder as Noel's voice changers from its gentle mode into one of hopeful determination.
'Say it lound in sing it proud today,' he urges before reaching the contagious chorus line, 'Dance if you wanna dance/ Please brother take a chance,' and a horn section is introduced, adding to the majesty of the music as the song reaches its first climax.
Unexpectedly, a distorbed electric guitar, like John Lennon's on 'I'm Only Sleeping' now butts in, rubbing against the strings, taking us up tho the bridge. Then Noel again urges, 'Say it loud and sing it proud today,' the song dips into its second chorus, propelled by chugging strings.
After the seccond verse, which contains the lines, 'Because everything that's been has passed/ The answer's in the looking glass/ There's four and twenty million doors on life's endless corridor,' the song goes back into its triumphant chorus before reaching its zenith, Noel's electric guitar solo put witch backing vocals, strings, horns, all of them climbing together before an acoustic guitar enter to take us back to earth, back to ground. Its a masterpiece. The song ends with Noel's reverberating guitar sending out silver shivers of notes and chords.
In the studio there is a momentary silence and then Liam stands up, goes over to Noel and says, 'That is as good as any Beatles' song, I'm telling you man, it is. You don't know how fucking good you are.'
Noel looks shyly at the floor, drags on his cigarette.
Liam turns excitedly to Owen and the girl, u huge smile on his lips. Once again the music has healed the Gallagher brothers.
'And it's a B-side,' Liam excitedly exclaims. 'How fucking top is that?'I loved this paragraph as well  Just borrowed the book two days ago from the library, not even finished it yet! Great book! |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 19, 2011 14:22:24 GMT -5
Nice one Sally. One of the best parts of that book. Brilliant way to start it, too.
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Post by BlueJay on Feb 19, 2011 21:32:14 GMT -5
In the studio there is a momentary silence and then Liam stands up, goes over to Noel and says, 'That is as good as any Beatles' song, I'm telling you man, it is. You don't know how fucking good you are.' Noel looks shyly at the floor, drags on his cigarette. Liam turns excitedly to Owen and the girl, u huge smile on his lips. Once again the music has healed the Gallagher brothers. 'And it's a B-side,' Liam excitedly exclaims. 'How fucking top is that?' [/i] [/quote] beautiful, just beautiful.  |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 19, 2011 21:48:10 GMT -5
Someone should type up the opening of the Getting High book where the Masterplan is being discussed. I would, but I don't have the book with me right now, and I'm too lazy, but that 2 page description or so sums it up wonderfully. MP is a classic. I've got too much time on my hands, so here you go Little introduction: The book starts with Liam entering the room were Noel is eating and saying 'What the fuck do you think you're doing' He claims Noel mixed 'Round Are Way' wrong and ruined the song. Noel is off course furious. The two head back to the studio where producer Owen Morris is mixing. The fight goes on, now about something with Guigsy & Liam in France (does anywone know what they are referring to here?). Argument gets very heated and then: Excerpt: 'Look', Owen interjects, raising his hands like a boxin referee who wants to stop a fight, 'can we please just listen to the mix.' Before either Noel or Liam can say a word, Owen turns back to the desk, pushes a large button and the sound of a gentle acoustic guitar drifts in, its melody counterpointed by soft notes from a shimmering electric guitar. The guitars are joined by some slow swooping orchestral strings which add another melody before Noel's voice enters, plaintitive but strong. This is 'The Masterplan'. He sings, 'Take the time to make some sense/ Of what you want to say/ And cast your words away upon the waves/ And sail them home with aquiesce upon a ship of hope toda/ And as they land upon the shore/ Tell them not to fear no more.'
Now the orchestra gets louder as Noel's voice changers from its gentle mode into one of hopeful determination.
'Say it lound in sing it proud today,' he urges before reaching the contagious chorus line, 'Dance if you wanna dance/ Please brother take a chance,' and a horn section is introduced, adding to the majesty of the music as the song reaches its first climax.
Unexpectedly, a distorbed electric guitar, like John Lennon's on 'I'm Only Sleeping' now butts in, rubbing against the strings, taking us up tho the bridge. Then Noel again urges, 'Say it loud and sing it proud today,' the song dips into its second chorus, propelled by chugging strings.
After the seccond verse, which contains the lines, 'Because everything that's been has passed/ The answer's in the looking glass/ There's four and twenty million doors on life's endless corridor,' the song goes back into its triumphant chorus before reaching its zenith, Noel's electric guitar solo put witch backing vocals, strings, horns, all of them climbing together before an acoustic guitar enter to take us back to earth, back to ground. Its a masterpiece. The song ends with Noel's reverberating guitar sending out silver shivers of notes and chords.
In the studio there is a momentary silence and then Liam stands up, goes over to Noel and says, 'That is as good as any Beatles' song, I'm telling you man, it is. You don't know how fucking good you are.'
Noel looks shyly at the floor, drags on his cigarette.
Liam turns excitedly to Owen and the girl, u huge smile on his lips. Once again the music has healed the Gallagher brothers.
'And it's a B-side,' Liam excitedly exclaims. 'How fucking top is that?'I loved this paragraph as well Just borrowed the book two days ago from the library, not even finished it yet! Great book! I've never read that book...looks like I am going to have to. What a great passage. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Feb 20, 2011 3:27:16 GMT -5
In the studio there is a momentary silence and then Liam stands up, goes over to Noel and says, 'That is as good as any Beatles' song, I'm telling you man, it is. You don't know how fucking good you are.' Noel looks shyly at the floor, drags on his cigarette. Liam turns excitedly to Owen and the girl, u huge smile on his lips. Once again the music has healed the Gallagher brothers. 'And it's a B-side,' Liam excitedly exclaims. 'How fucking top is that?' [/i] [/quote] beautiful, just beautiful. [/quote] That's what I love about Liam. Saying this even if Noel was accusing him of something only 5min earlier, fair play! Aways wears his heart on his sleeve |
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Post by paranoidandroid on Feb 21, 2011 4:02:57 GMT -5
As much as i love The Beat Goes on it would take much more than that to even put a dent in greatness that is The masterplan
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 21, 2011 11:14:14 GMT -5
That passage is amazing. I still don't get how anyone would vote The Beat Goes On, but to each his own.
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 28, 2011 21:06:13 GMT -5
lolz I should have been born earlier.
I'll retract what I have said before about not returning to this thread and clarify myself.. again.
It's completely preposterous to say that nostalgia is the sole reason for The Masterplan's status as a classic. It's just that the 1994-1997 era is a true legend and it is impossible for an Oasis fan to not get affected by it; see how you guys are marveling at that old story. I don't get it, I don't really mind, but I felt like I had to point out at least once.
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 5, 2011 17:26:44 GMT -5
CAN NOT COMPARE!!!!
The Masterplan is....a masterplan of a song. OK so atm I am digging TBGO..also I think asking this in a year or something after the inital reaction to the song dies down
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Mar 16, 2011 14:52:04 GMT -5
Well I guess it's a proven fact that this thread is absurd.
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 17, 2011 15:08:15 GMT -5
Can't believe 12 people on this forum voted TBGO
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Post by glider on Nov 25, 2019 11:11:03 GMT -5
Great poll thread LlAM. Was re-listening to this album for the first time in five years and thought the same myself. /s |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 16, 2020 17:32:57 GMT -5
That's a easy one The Masterplan hands down. The Beat Goes On doesn't even come close.
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Post by matt on Sept 16, 2020 18:27:08 GMT -5
This poll and the admiration for The Beat Goes On that follows in the thread was also made at a time when Jimmy Saville was a national treasure and much loved by the British public.
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