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Post by Mr. Sifter on Feb 16, 2011 17:34:14 GMT -5
The Masterplan is a true classic, a masterpiece, is there any Oasis song post-1996 that you would put in front of The Masterplan? I have a hard time coming up with one...
But the comparison to other songs, is really stupid IMO. I really love Go Let It Out for example, and listen to it all the time, sometimes I enjoy it more than Live Forever, many times I enjoy Half The World Away more than The Masterplan, but that doesn't make those two better songs. I don't put one in front of the other.
To me, most of Oasis material lays in my big bag of "goodiness", I can have about 50 Oasis songs that I truly, truly love, and even if the general consensus is that L4E, TM, MG or CS is superior songs to Colombia, Cast No Shadow, My Big Mouth, Gas Panic, TIOBI, Part Of The Queue or TSOTL, I really don't have to care. I just listen to what I like, and don't care about making a fucking list of No. 1s, 2s, 3s and up to TSHB...
I just listen, and right now, three days after the release, tracks like TBGO and TMS gives me more of that "Wow-feeling" than The Masterplan, a track I have listened to for the last 10 years. BE songs are new, and maybe that feeling will fade away, but... Whatever happened to just enjoying music. These last three days just made my big bag of "goodiness" a little bigger.
Right this moment I'm listening to TMS, and it sends that chill down me spine. A few days from now The Masterplan will pop up in the iPhone, and if it catches me in the right moment, It will do the same...
Say it loud, and sing it proud today!!!
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Post by putthisin ® on Feb 16, 2011 19:43:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 20:29:56 GMT -5
The Masterplan. However, I feel many people here would pick a 1994-1997 song over anything Beady Eye/Noel will ever release, regardless of the songs quality. 1994-1996 songs are not all untouchable like some people believe. Yes they are.
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Post by OasisKid99 on Feb 16, 2011 20:59:30 GMT -5
Not every song from 94-96 would beat TBGO for me. If you picked one of the few actual subpar tunes from that era I would vote against them. But for many of us TM was a highlight of and era that was full of great tunes. We aren't picking Hey Now or Digsy's Dinner. We are picking THE MASTERPLAN. Now, now GD. After hearing how Noel carried out that one note at the tail end of the word "Lasagna", during Digsy's Dinner TCT 2010, I think I may have an argument with you here! On a serious note, I don't think I can handle another 7 or 8 months waiting for Noel to release his solo album. Some people on these boards are going completely insane. This thread is a complete farce.
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Post by thuperthonic on Feb 17, 2011 3:02:22 GMT -5
Hmmm 6 votes for the Roller in that one, 6 votes for The Beat Goes On in this one. There are 6 crazy motherfuckers on this forum.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Feb 17, 2011 15:49:16 GMT -5
Hmmm 6 votes for the Roller in that one, 6 votes for The Beat Goes On in this one. There are 6 crazy motherfuckers on this forum. There are some insightful, knowledgeable posters on this board. Unfortunately they are heavily outnumbered by complete fuckwits, who live in a fantasy world where everything is brilliant, but whinge over technicalities like how A Quick Peep doesn't get the credit it deserves for its true artistic brilliance. I think they just thrive on being different in all honesty, and will go to extreme attention seeking lengths to prove it.
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Post by bobbyp on Feb 17, 2011 16:10:38 GMT -5
In 16 years no one will be conducting a poll that asks if a new song is better than The Beat Goes On. However, people will still talk about Oasis 94-96 and brilliant Noel Gallaghers songs were. Masterplan being one of the best. To me that is the best way to answer this question.
I'm enjoying The Beat Goes On at the moment, its a nice song. I've enjoyed The Masterplan since I first heard it. Its an amazing song.
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Post by DCUnited on Feb 17, 2011 20:25:59 GMT -5
cant believe it
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 17, 2011 21:57:26 GMT -5
The Masterplan. However, I feel many people here would pick a 1994-1997 song over anything Beady Eye/Noel will ever release, regardless of the songs quality. 1994-1996 songs are not all untouchable like some people believe. Yes they are. No they aren't. This is a clear case of nostalgia, when somebody claims that Oasis songs from 1994-1997 era can beat anything. Other than that he's just too mad fer Noel. Go marry him. Go ditch your mad-fer-Oasis spirit and try to look objectively. A person can hate TM. I've seen cases of numerous friends who were pissed off with LF or DLBIA. Stop judging different preferences as fuckwits or crazy motherfuckers because that might just turn out to be you.
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Post by face on Feb 17, 2011 23:30:07 GMT -5
No they aren't. This is a clear case of nostalgia, when somebody claims that Oasis songs from 1994-1997 era can beat anything. Other than that he's just too mad fer Noel. Go marry him. Go ditch your mad-fer-Oasis spirit and try to look objectively. A person can hate TM. I've seen cases of numerous friends who were pissed off with LF or DLBIA. Stop judging different preferences as fuckwits or crazy motherfuckers because that might just turn out to be you. fuck off weirdo
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 18, 2011 3:30:01 GMT -5
No they aren't. This is a clear case of nostalgia, when somebody claims that Oasis songs from 1994-1997 era can beat anything. Other than that he's just too mad fer Noel. Go marry him. Go ditch your mad-fer-Oasis spirit and try to look objectively. A person can hate TM. I've seen cases of numerous friends who were pissed off with LF or DLBIA. Stop judging different preferences as fuckwits or crazy motherfuckers because that might just turn out to be you. fuck off weirdo yeah.. I'll just ignore you. TBGO should have been compared with IOT tbh. Similar vibe, similar structure, came from a similar era, and coincidentally one of the best songs on the album. I never meant to say that TBGO is better than anything, I just wanted to say I don't like TM and some random guys call me a fucking dimwit Grow up people! p.s. One more thing about nostalgia: the whole "it came from a better era" argument is based on nostalgia if the person actually went through those times.
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Post by BlueJay on Feb 18, 2011 4:36:52 GMT -5
The Masterplan is the peak of Noel's creative output. As perfect a fusion of words and music as their ever was. A song demonstrative of Noel's godlike powers in the mid-nineties - 125,000 people singing along to a discarded b-side at Knebworth Park in 1996.
In contrast The Beat Goes On is a half-baked cover of 'Africa' by Toto, with not nearly as much melodic prowess.
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Feb 18, 2011 4:49:34 GMT -5
In contrast The Beat Goes On is a half-baked cover of 'Africa' by Toto, with not nearly as much melodic prowess. First of all,i couldn't disagree more...secondly,they are equal songs and i adore them both.But i would have loved to hear the '95 liam sing both songs....if noel had written TBGO in the past,it would have been hailed as one of their best songs,if not the best.....if you don't like it,i can't understand hoe you bother with the rest of the album.....
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Post by BlueJay on Feb 18, 2011 4:55:17 GMT -5
In contrast The Beat Goes On is a half-baked cover of 'Africa' by Toto, with not nearly as much melodic prowess. First of all,you are an idiot...secondly,they are equal songs and i adore them both.But i would have loved to hear the '95 liam sing both songs....if noel had written TBGO in the past,it would have been hailed as one of their best songs,if not the best.....if you don't like it,i can't understand hoe you bother with the rest of the album..... Oh, I do like the album. And I enjoy this song as well, but it is not a masterpiece, merely an enjoyable song. Comparing it to The Masterplan is like comparing Liam Gallagher to John Lennon. Both great, but one far exceeds the other by a distance that is not able to be travelled by any machine man has built. Oh, and since when did having an opinion render someone as an idiot. Your -6 Karma record doesn't help your cause either.
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Post by gaspanic23 on Feb 18, 2011 4:59:04 GMT -5
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Feb 18, 2011 5:09:33 GMT -5
First of all,you are an idiot...secondly,they are equal songs and i adore them both.But i would have loved to hear the '95 liam sing both songs....if noel had written TBGO in the past,it would have been hailed as one of their best songs,if not the best.....if you don't like it,i can't understand hoe you bother with the rest of the album..... Oh, I do like the album. And I enjoy this song as well, but it is not a masterpiece, merely an enjoyable song. Comparing it to The Masterplan is like comparing Liam Gallagher to John Lennon. Both great, but one far exceeds the other by a distance that is not able to be travelled by any machine man has built. Oh, and since when did having an opinion render someone as an idiot. Your -6 Karma record doesn't help your cause either. Sorry about that,it was uncalled for,i just love the song so much...the karma thing has to do with my oasis edits,which everyone seems to hate...i still don't understand how this karma thing works....anyway,both are fantastic songs in my opinion....
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Post by BlueJay on Feb 18, 2011 5:17:04 GMT -5
Oh, I do like the album. And I enjoy this song as well, but it is not a masterpiece, merely an enjoyable song. Comparing it to The Masterplan is like comparing Liam Gallagher to John Lennon. Both great, but one far exceeds the other by a distance that is not able to be travelled by any machine man has built. Oh, and since when did having an opinion render someone as an idiot. Your -6 Karma record doesn't help your cause either. Sorry about that,it was uncalled for,i just love the song so much...the karma thing has to do with my oasis edits,which everyone seems to hate...i still don't understand how this karma thing works....anyway,both are fantastic songs in my opinion.... No dramas.
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Post by andymorris on Feb 18, 2011 5:31:43 GMT -5
In contrast The Beat Goes On is a half-baked cover of 'Africa' by Toto whaaaaat I love it when people hear songs in other songs. but this one is out of this world. it's got nothing to do, seriously.
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Post by andytr on Feb 18, 2011 5:44:04 GMT -5
im sorry i must be halluciating- i thought i just read the beat goes on vs the masterplan!!!!
are you fucking kidding me??? thats like saying a ferrari vs a ford mondeo!!
dont get me wrong, a new ford mondeo might be good, but a ferrari is in a different league!!
there is absolutely no way you can say a beat goes on is better than the masterplan. the masterplan is a complete classic.
the people who are even contemplating saying tbgo is better (i know its hard to believe lol) are just saying that cos its a new song and they are seeing it thru rose tinted glasses.
can they remember the first time they heard the masterplan??? i know i for one was blown away and could feel goosebumps lol.
i suppose everyone has ther own opinions, but anyone who really thinks the beat goes on is better are WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!
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Post by andytr on Feb 18, 2011 6:24:32 GMT -5
No they aren't. This is a clear case of nostalgia, when somebody claims that Oasis songs from 1994-1997 era can beat anything. Other than that he's just too mad fer Noel. Go marry him. Go ditch your mad-fer-Oasis spirit and try to look objectively. A person can hate TM. I've seen cases of numerous friends who were pissed off with LF or DLBIA. Stop judging different preferences as fuckwits or crazy motherfuckers because that might just turn out to be you. fuck off weirdo couldnt have put it any better myself. lol.
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 18, 2011 6:32:01 GMT -5
couldnt have put it any better myself. lol. Your goosebumps happened to me when I first heard TBGO, but that wasn't the case with TM for me. Please accept that people can have different opinions and go on with your life! It's not like I'm your father! Gosh I'm tired of people swearing without thinking for having different opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2011 6:36:29 GMT -5
No they aren't. This is a clear case of nostalgia, when somebody claims that Oasis songs from 1994-1997 era can beat anything. Other than that he's just too mad fer Noel. Go marry him. Go ditch your mad-fer-Oasis spirit and try to look objectively. A person can hate TM. I've seen cases of numerous friends who were pissed off with LF or DLBIA. Stop judging different preferences as fuckwits or crazy motherfuckers because that might just turn out to be you. Yes they are. Go eat another dog.
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Post by andytr on Feb 18, 2011 6:37:32 GMT -5
couldnt have put it any better myself. lol. Your goosebumps happened to me when I first heard TBGO, but that wasn't the case with TM for me. Please accept that people can have different opinions and go on with your life! It's not like I'm your father! Gosh I'm tired of people swearing without thinking for having different opinions. sorry but after seeing a thread with the title- the beat goes on vs the masterplan, all i could think of was swear words!
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 18, 2011 6:40:09 GMT -5
Your goosebumps happened to me when I first heard TBGO, but that wasn't the case with TM for me. Please accept that people can have different opinions and go on with your life! It's not like I'm your father! Gosh I'm tired of people swearing without thinking for having different opinions. sorry but after seeing a thread with the title- the beat goes on vs the masterplan, all i could think of was swear words! I agree with you on that. I've seen so many threads of this kind recently and tbh they are so meaningless... Yes they are. Go eat another dog. Shut up. Eating dogs are inhumane and illegal as well.
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