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Post by oasisserbia on Jul 11, 2016 7:49:47 GMT -5
The bashing of this album never really took place until Noel come out and said he didn't think much to it. I remember so many reviews saying how surprisingly impressive the album was at the time. It's amazing how much "opinion" can change. It's almost like some of you are told what you can like. I was 19, just discovered Oasis few months before DGSS and my ,,mad fer it'' level was at 11/10. I know much more about music now. But i still think it's ok. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 7:53:20 GMT -5
Just had a listen to this track for the first time in ages...
Pretty forgettable really. There are definitely worse tunes, but we should not make a habit of lowering are bar to the least common denominator. We all know that Liam compares every song to The Beatles, and Lennon in particular, this track is not on par with either really. I'd argue it falls somewhere in the middle of Beady Eye tunes even.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 11, 2016 13:26:25 GMT -5
The bashing of this album never really took place until Noel come out and said he didn't think much to it. I remember so many reviews saying how surprisingly impressive the album was at the time. It's amazing how much "opinion" can change. It's almost like some of you are told what you can like. Oh dear. It's almost like you have some strange kind of bitterness inside which comes through many of your posts. What did Noel say about DGSS? I can't remember, to be honest. Maybe guigsysEstring can! I think he said that he still hadn't listened to it (from the July 2011 press conference), and then there's this quote from 2012 ( source): Not even the most hardcore Beady Eye defenders can disagree on that, I believe... Personally speaking, I liked some DGSS tracks after the release hype (but even then I totally despised utter crap tracks like Standing On... and The Beat Goes On). It was the first post-Oasis release and many of us were overly excited... time has given its answer and I guess it's not a good one. I genuinely think that DGSS is the weakest album ever released by a Gallagher (Rory Gallagher included  ). It's just so dull! BE on the other hand was properly enjoyable, in spite of a couple of duds. I gotta go now, I'm off to get the fiver that Noel hands me every time I bad-mouth Beady Eye on a internet forum  It's funny because you sound alot more angry than I do. I was just pointing out that when it come out the reaction was very different to how it was after HFB came out. Which also went from being a great noel album to medicore dad rock in alot of people's eyes. Something I also can't understand (so it isn't just me defending liam) I think DGSS is a pretty good album. All I do is compare it to the rest of the indie bands I listen to and if a band came out with four letter word, the roller, morning son and millionaire they'd definitely be enough to keep me very interested. I agree there's poor stuff on there but as far back as the shoe gazing bands I listen to there is countless indie bands with that problem that I still love. In my opinion the media decided to shit on it because it was Liam Gallagher. Now some might say he's made his bed etc etc but it doesn't make it right to me. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 11, 2016 13:28:44 GMT -5
The bashing of this album never really took place until Noel come out and said he didn't think much to it. I remember so many reviews saying how surprisingly impressive the album was at the time. It's amazing how much "opinion" can change. It's almost like some of you are told what you can like. Tbf, there are a lot of BHN lovers around here, while we all know Noel hates this album. That's because Noel hates the period because he looked fat and was going through loads of shit in his personal life. He just detaches himself from it entirely. Real fans know it's the last time he truly had the magic to effortlessly write anthemic masterpieces. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 11, 2016 13:33:55 GMT -5
The bashing of this album never really took place until Noel come out and said he didn't think much to it. I remember so many reviews saying how surprisingly impressive the album was at the time. It's amazing how much "opinion" can change. It's almost like some of you are told what you can like. I wasn't particularly enamored with it to start with TBH, although I am a fan of the second LP and have no idea what Noel thinks of that one  The 'impressive' reviews came from the press rather than individual fans IIRC, and these are the same people who routinely used to hand Robbie Williams four stars no matter which album it was whilst hedging their bets so..... Anyway that aside few new faces at Freemans Wharf this season already and Arsenal rejected by JV, so how do you rate your chances?  I think if you look at this forum when the album came out, or even quote alot of the early posts in this thread then it's clear it had alot of love from fans. I'll never say it was a great album because it wasn't. But at the same time I think with music if you truly don't want to like something when you go into listening to it then 9/10 you won't. Some people wanted Beady Eye to be shit. I actually think the media were impressed bensure they all assumed he couldn't do it without Noel. When I listen to Ashcroft and Marr's solo stuff I really think In comparison their albums in their entirety are not something Liam couldn't better (all be it with some guidance). And I think we are set for another great year at the KP. Let's hope it's more of a what's the story than a second coming;) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 13:48:15 GMT -5
Tbf, there are a lot of BHN lovers around here, while we all know Noel hates this album. That's because Noel hates the period because he looked fat and was going through loads of shit in his personal life. He just detaches himself from it entirely. Real fans know it's the last time he truly had the magic to effortlessly write anthemic masterpieces. I do agree with all your post here. However, I think people do not listen to Noel like he was the god we should agree with everything he said. I do not hate the music Beady Eye, for the most part. It's just that their songwriting was extremly lazy. It lacked of melodies, of good production (especially DGSS). I have nothing against Liam, or Gem, or Andy (which is one of the songwriter of one of my fav band ever: Ride ), it's just that Beady Eye songs are extremly lazy imo. Some of them are even awful (The Beat Goes, their "Good Night" ; For Anyone ; Bring The Light ; Wigwam ; Shine a Light). It's not even a comparison with Noel's solo albums, which are far from being masterpieces, but just an opinion of Beady music. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 11, 2016 14:36:58 GMT -5
I am able to decide for myself what I like and dislike, thank you very much.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jul 13, 2016 12:06:36 GMT -5
I have fun listening to some dgss tunes and really enjoy BE.
But DGSS is a bit too vintage right now. But my taste changed too in certain aspects.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 13, 2016 12:52:02 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Jul 13, 2016 13:03:54 GMT -5
Disappointing - this needs to be in a much bigger font. Fuck it, we'll need a billboard. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 13, 2016 13:12:15 GMT -5
Disappointing - this needs to be in a much bigger font. Fuck it, we'll need a billboard. THIS
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 14:22:30 GMT -5
I like this song.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 13, 2016 14:51:48 GMT -5
Tbf he hasn't been doing it fifteen times in every single thread every single day for the past six months. I listened to TBGO the other day and it's not as bad as I remembered. Yeah, it's extremely cliched and cringeworthy, but it's far from the epitome of awful. That title belongs to Kill for a Dream or Standing on the Edge of the Noize. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 15:11:20 GMT -5
Tbf he hasn't been doing it fifteen times in every single thread every single day for the past six months. I listened to TBGO the other day and it's not as bad as I remembered. Yeah, it's extremely cliched and cringeworthy, but it's far from the epitome of awful. That title belongs to Kill for a Dream or Standing on the Edge of the Noize. And Wigwam ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 15:30:40 GMT -5
Tbf he hasn't been doing it fifteen times in every single thread every single day for the past six months. I listened to TBGO the other day and it's not as bad as I remembered. Yeah, it's extremely cliched and cringeworthy, but it's far from the epitome of awful. That title belongs to Kill for a Dream or Standing on the Edge of the Noize. I'm sorry, it was meant to be a joke, but now I read it isn't funny at all. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 13, 2016 17:19:12 GMT -5
Tbf he hasn't been doing it fifteen times in every single thread every single day for the past six months. I listened to TBGO the other day and it's not as bad as I remembered. Yeah, it's extremely cliched and cringeworthy, but it's far from the epitome of awful. That title belongs to Kill for a Dream or Standing on the Edge of the Noize. I couldn't agree more. As bad of a song that "The Beat Goes On Is", "Kill For A Dream" is fucking dreadful. DGSS really did contain some brutal songs. I forgot about "Standing On The Edge of Noize". Cool title. EMBARASSMENT of a song. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 17:42:31 GMT -5
Tbf he hasn't been doing it fifteen times in every single thread every single day for the past six months. I listened to TBGO the other day and it's not as bad as I remembered. Yeah, it's extremely cliched and cringeworthy, but it's far from the epitome of awful. That title belongs to Kill for a Dream or Standing on the Edge of the Noize. I couldn't agree more. As bad of a song that "The Beat Goes On Is", "Kill For A Dream" is fucking dreadful. DGSS really did contain some brutal songs. I forgot about "Standing On The Edge of Noize". Cool title. EMBARASSMENT of a song. correct me if i'm wrong but didn't that one almost end up on dig out your soul? can you imagine that one and ain't got nothin' on the same fucking album. or worse yet, on the same album and back-to-back.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 17:58:56 GMT -5
I don't give a fuck about lyrics. Liam sounds great in DGSS and the band is rocking more than NGHFB.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 13, 2016 18:19:10 GMT -5
I don't give a fuck about lyrics. Liam sounds great in DGSS and the band is rocking more than NGHFB. Well one is a "rock" band and the other is a solo artist. Big difference. To be a rock and not to roll......................... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 18:20:19 GMT -5
The problem is the melodies. They're inexistant for the most part on DGSS.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 13, 2016 18:23:22 GMT -5
Everything goes down hill fast after track 6-7 on DGSS.
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Post by Manualex on Jul 13, 2016 20:26:21 GMT -5
Everything goes down hill fast after track 6-7 on DGSS. way too many 6+minutes on the second half. They are nice but it's way too late to Save from SOTEON, BTL, B&S and other less than good moments on the álbum. |
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Post by glider on Jul 13, 2016 22:18:22 GMT -5
Everything goes down hill fast after track 6-7 on DGSS. The album right at the start is a downhill slope. Dated 60s rock with cliche lyrics and titles. |
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jul 14, 2016 5:12:48 GMT -5
Oh dear. It's almost like you have some strange kind of bitterness inside which comes through many of your posts. What did Noel say about DGSS? I can't remember, to be honest. Maybe guigsysEstring can! I think he said that he still hadn't listened to it (from the July 2011 press conference), and then there's this quote from 2012 ( source): Not even the most hardcore Beady Eye defenders can disagree on that, I believe... Personally speaking, I liked some DGSS tracks after the release hype (but even then I totally despised utter crap tracks like Standing On... and The Beat Goes On). It was the first post-Oasis release and many of us were overly excited... time has given its answer and I guess it's not a good one. I genuinely think that DGSS is the weakest album ever released by a Gallagher (Rory Gallagher included ). It's just so dull! BE on the other hand was properly enjoyable, in spite of a couple of duds. I gotta go now, I'm off to get the fiver that Noel hands me every time I bad-mouth Beady Eye on a internet forum This was a NME magazine interview from July 2011 His take on Wonderwall at the Olympics was alright as well, saying at one point Beady Eye were great and he was happy "Liam and the lads" did it rather than someone like Keane. In the latter interview he talks about some of his solo songs which would definitely have become Oasis songs if they hadn't split, and with songs from DGSS and Flick of the Finger, etc. having their origins in Oasis then I think it would be fair to say that some of those would have made it into the official Oasis cannon as well. Wonder if Noel was as "shocked" when If I Had A Gun made number 90 or whatever it was. |
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The 'impressive' reviews came from the press rather than individual fans IIRC, and these are the same people who routinely used to hand Robbie Williams four stars no matter which album it was whilst hedging their bets so.....
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