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Post by caats19 on Dec 27, 2010 17:03:35 GMT -5
not comparing to oasis is pretty stupid. I will say i find the full song much better than the clip.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 17:07:24 GMT -5
All these people saying that if this was released as a single it would be the better than any single released by Oasis in this decade is hard to take seriously. Someone who doesn't respect other peoples opinions is even harder to take seriously. Four Letter Word is easily better than Hindu Times, Lyla, Shock Of The Lightning and She Is Love. Did we hear the same song. Not better than TSOFTL and def not better than Lyla. Its a good song, but I wouldnt say its better than those 2 or "easily" better. lol
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 17:12:08 GMT -5
Lol the 1st 6 pages are all positive and then the haters and comparing people have dominated the last few pages. "The Perfect Song" does not exist people. Enjoy it or hate it for what it is. I like it, its a good,solid rock opener. Really haters?!? Call me a hater if you wish, but I just gave my opinion. I'm sorry if I dont think the song is the greatest song that has come out in my lifetime. I find it to be a lsightly above average song. Just because you give a fair opinion of a song, that doesnt mean you're a "hater". And technically there is no perfect song, but thats no reason to say not critisize a song's short comings. That's like me saying "you're all haters. Shakermaker is the greatest song ever. You guys just want perfection" Its a pretty shit reason to say why you shouldn't judge a song. If a song is amazing, its amzing. If its slightly above average, then its slightly above average. There shouldnt be an arguement saying that no song is perfect so everyone should just ignore what they dont like and shut up.
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Post by bonkers on Dec 27, 2010 17:15:58 GMT -5
i think the song is good but not great
that is all
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Dec 27, 2010 17:18:56 GMT -5
The more I listen to it, the more I love it. Especially the snarl in "Nothing ever lasts... Forever!"
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Post by caats19 on Dec 27, 2010 17:58:12 GMT -5
Lol the 1st 6 pages are all positive and then the haters and comparing people have dominated the last few pages. "The Perfect Song" does not exist people. Enjoy it or hate it for what it is. I like it, its a good,solid rock opener. perfect songs definitely exist in my book (my book being my opinion obv). not sure if i'd say oasis has one for me though. hmm.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 27, 2010 17:58:25 GMT -5
All these people saying that if this was released as a single it would be the better than any single released by Oasis in this decade is hard to take seriously. Someone who doesn't respect other peoples opinions is even harder to take seriously. Four Letter Word is easily better than Hindu Times, Lyla, Shock Of The Lightning and She Is Love. So better than FD, TIOBI, GLIO and IOT? Fair enough if that's truly ur well considered opinion. I only meant that saying things like that make me think that maybe they are caught up in the buzz...not that their overall opinions are invalid. just that they are excited and not necessarily being very objective. I was talking about people being overexcited...not that they were stupid for liking it. wasn't hard to read my meaning if you weren't trying to pull my post apart.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 27, 2010 18:07:34 GMT -5
I like how everyone goes "Don't compare it to Oasis. It's Beady Eye, not Oasis. Besides, it's better than *insert Oasis opening track here*." That's true. It's only not allowed to be compared to Oasis if the Oasis track is better. People have been going on and on about it being better than (insert random post-2000 Oasis song). However what do you wanna bet I'd be kicked 7 ways to Sunday if I tried to compare it to RnRS. "You can't compare BDI to Oasis"
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 18:08:31 GMT -5
Lol the 1st 6 pages are all positive and then the haters and comparing people have dominated the last few pages. "The Perfect Song" does not exist people. Enjoy it or hate it for what it is. I like it, its a good,solid rock opener. perfect songs definitely exist in my book (my book being my opinion obv). not sure if i'd say oasis has one for me though. hmm. There are some songs that are perfect. I think Oasis did make a couple of perfect songs, DLBIA stands out the most to me. But in my book there might be 5-7 tracks all time that I would say were perfect. (not talking about Oasis having 5-7, but 5-7 when looking at all of music/artists.)
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Post by caats19 on Dec 27, 2010 18:10:09 GMT -5
perfect songs definitely exist in my book (my book being my opinion obv). not sure if i'd say oasis has one for me though. hmm. There are some songs that are perfect. I think Oasis did make a couple of perfect songs, DLBIA stands out the most to me. But in my book there might be 5-7 tracks all time that I would say were perfect. (not talking about Oasis having 5-7, but 5-7 when looking at all of music/artists.) yah, the one i was thinking about for Oasis is DLBIA. But even that doesn't stand next to like Wouldn't It Be Nice for me.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 27, 2010 18:10:42 GMT -5
I think it's a wise move to produce his vocals as close to the live experience as possible. At least on some of these initial releases. I don't mind a live vocal being rougher than the studio version.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 18:11:06 GMT -5
I like how everyone goes "Don't compare it to Oasis. It's Beady Eye, not Oasis. Besides, it's better than *insert Oasis opening track here*." That's true. It's only not allowed to be compared to Oasis if the Oasis track is better. People have been going on and on about it being better than (insert random post-2000 Oasis song). However what do you wanna bet I'd be kicked 7 ways to Sunday if I tried to compare it to RnRS. "You can't compare BDI to Oasis" ahahaha true, someone said that FLW was better than She Is Love. Like really?!? I think 99.9999999% of songs that Oasis did were better than She Is Love. But yeah, there's a lot of double talk. Dont compare it to Oasis, and oh by the way I think its better than Lyla. (still dont get how its better than Lyla. lol
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Post by Rolo on Dec 27, 2010 18:12:16 GMT -5
Stop fucking comparing it to other songs and just enjoy the song for what it is, a fantastic rocking song and album opener, I ain't arsed if it's better than one song or worse than another, I'm enjoying it a lot, that's all that matters.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 18:14:26 GMT -5
There are some songs that are perfect. I think Oasis did make a couple of perfect songs, DLBIA stands out the most to me. But in my book there might be 5-7 tracks all time that I would say were perfect. (not talking about Oasis having 5-7, but 5-7 when looking at all of music/artists.) yah, the one i was thinking about for Oasis is DLBIA. But even that doesn't stand next to like Wouldn't It Be Nice for me. ahahahaha Wouldn't It Be Nice is also on my list. ahahaha We need to compare lists. lol But yeah, DLBIA is the one that I would offer up to be amongst the truely great songs of all time. I've got it in a Beatles/Dylan/Rolling Stones playlists along with some other Oasis songs. With every Oasis song that I have on that playlist there is a noticable drop in terms of the quality of the songs except DLBIA. It flows perfectly with all the bests of the Beatles/Dylan/Rolling Stones.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 18:15:37 GMT -5
Stop fucking comparing it to other songs and just enjoy the song for what it is, a fantastic rocking song and album opener, I ain't arsed if it's better than one song or worse than another, I'm enjoying it a lot, that's all that matters. Kinda natural to compare to other songs. Music really is about listening and comparing.
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Post by caats19 on Dec 27, 2010 18:18:54 GMT -5
yah, the one i was thinking about for Oasis is DLBIA. But even that doesn't stand next to like Wouldn't It Be Nice for me. ahahahaha Wouldn't It Be Nice is also on my list. ahahaha We need to compare lists. lol But yeah, DLBIA is the one that I would offer up to be amongst the truely great songs of all time. I've got it in a Beatles/Dylan/Rolling Stones playlists along with some other Oasis songs. With every Oasis song that I have on that playlist there is a noticable drop in terms of the quality of the songs except DLBIA. It flows perfectly with all the bests of the Beatles/Dylan/Rolling Stones. haha that's funny. And yeah, DLBIA's guitar at the very very end is probably one of the best things ever. It really picks it up next to all those great tunes. And funny i used to just really really like Wouldn't it be nice, but then i heard the vocal track without the instruments and i pretty much died. Treat for anybody who hasn't heard it aaanyway back on topic. I have a feeling Four Letter Word will pretty much some up the whole album for me. It's solid. And i think the album will simply be solid.
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Post by bwilder on Dec 27, 2010 18:24:25 GMT -5
Sorry, guys. Noel's a MUCH better songwriter than this. Not really digging this. The melody's just okay. I wouldn't buy it if i didnt know who it was.
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Post by bwilder on Dec 27, 2010 18:25:40 GMT -5
The verse melody is good. Chorus is meh...
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Post by Rolo on Dec 27, 2010 18:26:30 GMT -5
Stop fucking comparing it to other songs and just enjoy the song for what it is, a fantastic rocking song and album opener, I ain't arsed if it's better than one song or worse than another, I'm enjoying it a lot, that's all that matters. Kinda natural to compare to other songs. Music really is about listening and comparing. Yeah that's fair enough but a few people are getting a bit carried away with the whole comparing thing, yes of course it's going to be compared to Oasis but what I'm saying is it shouldn't stop you from thinking it's a great song if it isn't better than another, if that was the case, it would be like me saying ''Well, I think The Shock Of The Lightning is a brilliant song but it's not as good as Live Forever so it can't be great'', it's pointless. Just enjoy the song for what it is. Know what I mean?
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Post by gdforever on Dec 27, 2010 18:27:08 GMT -5
The verse melody is good. Chorus is meh... I think the lyrics also add a good measure to the song.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 18:27:15 GMT -5
ahahahaha Wouldn't It Be Nice is also on my list. ahahaha We need to compare lists. lol But yeah, DLBIA is the one that I would offer up to be amongst the truely great songs of all time. I've got it in a Beatles/Dylan/Rolling Stones playlists along with some other Oasis songs. With every Oasis song that I have on that playlist there is a noticable drop in terms of the quality of the songs except DLBIA. It flows perfectly with all the bests of the Beatles/Dylan/Rolling Stones. haha that's funny. And yeah, DLBIA's guitar at the very very end is probably one of the best things ever. It really picks it up next to all those great tunes. And funny i used to just really really like Wouldn't it be nice, but then i heard the vocal track without the instruments and i pretty much died. Treat for anybody who hasn't heard it aaanyway back on topic. I have a feeling Four Letter Word will pretty much some up the whole album for me. It's solid. And i think the album will simply be solid. I've heard that one before. I loved it too when I heard it. Nearly creamed myself when I heard. Haromony on that is perfect. And yes, that ending guitar part is what realy makes that song. Especially, when Noel does those very very light kinda falsettos at the end. Those parts put it in a different league.
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Post by dwagon41 on Dec 27, 2010 20:21:12 GMT -5
If we're not allowed to compare it to Oasis songs - what can we compare it against then?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 27, 2010 20:33:56 GMT -5
Besides, don't all music fans compare songs/albums/artists? Maybe I'm the only one here that will always bite when someone brings up a music list, but I doubt it. I love comparing things related to music and ranking and things. Just because someone says "It's not as good as Lyla/TSOTL/Hindu Times" doesn't mean they hate Four Letter Word. It's just a natural thing to do.
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Post by mrjonboyd on Dec 27, 2010 20:33:56 GMT -5
The verse melody is good. Chorus is meh... I think the lyrics also add a good measure to the song. If youre into ABC then they are. Personally im into Oasis (et al) because of the songs not the lyrics. Id much rather rock out to Oasis than Morrissey, but i wouldnt argue the lyrics matter. Its cliched thats all. As you would disparagingly say' LOL'
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Post by BEng on Dec 28, 2010 11:58:17 GMT -5
You should listen to Bring The Light again now. Now that we have a proper BDI song; I can enjoy listening to BTL much more now. I believe everyone was thinking: "Is this their stunning debut; possibly one of the best songs of the album? This is nothing compared to Supersonic" etc... But now it is clear that is was more a statement: "We're not Oasis; we're Beady eye'. Knowing this; and knowing that they'll have some proper songs on the album (FLW is a great example) I can enjoy listening to BTL much more now. It's a fun song; has a great attitude. It's not a great song of course; but it is certainly going to blow us away live
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