Indeed.

If this song is about Noel and Liam wrote it (I think it was Andy) I actually think that when asked, Noel would honestly say it's the best song lyrically that Liam had ever written.

Most discussions on any internet forum are completely pointless, although ridiculous I would argue with as people enjoy talking about things they enjoy... it's all part of the self serving attitude people have

nl4e - So if no-one can productively counter that the song's about Noel then I should shut up? I already told you I thought the song was about Noel, you've completely missed my point. The issue I had with you was the 'I'm going to settle this' attitude as if once you've made your point everyone else should just go 'Okay NL4E has spoken, let not another word be said about it', you know what I mean?

You and SOULDIGGER have a lot in common friend.

I feel differently. Could be vagina, could be pleb, could be anything. Noel doesnt scan.

'Four letter word will he get my meaning noel'. Makes even less sense. Insert vagina for example and it does become meaningful and dismissive. FLW is just a more poetic way of getting the point across.

Anyway we could tie ourselves up in knots over this, it just aint worth it. Fact is its a belter of a tune, and im happy with that. Liams lyrical prowess is not my abiding reason for being into the music. [/quote]

Try some punctuation...it's useful in developing a sentence.

If Noel=four letter word.

"Noel, will he get my meaning?" or"Noel really gets my meaning"

It could vagina...in which case FLW=Vagina=Noel. Meaning FLW refers to Noel.

Considering the fact that the rest of the lyrics are pretty good, and not needlessly bitter, chances are good it's not all based around calling Noel a vagina. I'm disappointed if ur right

At the end of the day a Noel by any other name...is still Noel.

Personally I think the track is just above average, the outro is overlong too me and the vocals are crap.

For me the song is clearly about Noel!
When I first read the title 'Four Letter Word' I was almost sure the word was F**k, but then when I read the whole song I changed my mind, so I wasn't thinking about Noel after reading the lyrics, for those who say we are maybe predisposed to think the song is about Noel.
Obviously the 'Four Letter Word' could be any word, but the lyrics are really clear and you don't need to be Einstein to find out Liam is talking about Noel. I mean, Liam is a simple man and I think his lyrics are long way more clear and easy to guess what they are about than Noels' lyrics, so the most logical thing would be think the song is about Noel and the Oasis end.
For me the 'Four letter word' is a words game with the word 'F**k' and 'Noel' and the song is clearly meaning: 'F**k Noel', because the first thing you think on when someone tells you the four letter word is the word 'F**k' and the first you think when you read the lyrics of the song is that the song is about Noel, so for me the lyrics and the title are clever and effective about the meaning.
Looking at the 'NOthing Ever Last Forever' thing, 'N O E L F'. For me too coincidence to be casuality.
Specially, taking into account, that is Liam who are we talking about and he's obviously capable to make a song about his hatred or whatever for Noel.

Personally I thought that the idea of FLW meaning Noel was a laugh too until I saw lyrics.

I thought it was a reference to LOVE until I heard the song.

No

Hell it could be about Patsy Kensit for all we know.

Patsy is a five letter word and Kensit is a six letter word. I'm sorry.

These few pages of posts have been a great read. I really dig the song and the lyrics regardless of who the target/muse is. While I think Liam is not exactly the most articulate individual in his public persona, I would hardly call him unintelligent.

On that topic, it was interesting listening to the recent interview he did with Matt Pinfield with WRXP in NY. He handled the interview in an entirely different manner than he would if he were in typical "UK Music Mag" interview mode.

Sadly, there seem to be more than a few trolls on here of late that have taken to some pretty rough ad hominem attacks on LG. Claiming to be fans of Oasis ten years ago while hating everything they've done since *insert album here* and then choosing to come on this forum for the sole purpose of negative criticism is truly mind boggling to me.

100 % agree on both of your points. To me Liam has always been a kind of a "holy fool", a Dostoyevskian character. Like in this interview snippt where Noel describes Liam: "He (Liam) was out the other night going: 'This night is like the Passover.' He's going: 'I am you, you are me. This is like the last supper.' The other guy there was going afterwards: 'Fucking hell, this guy is a bit special, isn't he?' I thought: 'Yeah, he is, isn't he?"

So I wouldn't be at all surprised if the lyrics were Liam's. In fact, they sound very much like him.

Otherwise, I'm quite surprised at how many of you see the song as a negative and/or nasty one. I see it as surprisingly loving, understanding - and very wistful. And even if the four-letter-word is THE four-letter-word, in Gallagher context that counts as a loving one:-).