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Post by supersonic1983 on Dec 5, 2008 22:08:34 GMT -5
Morrissey is the only thing people can't get round with the smiths I find. Me however, I think his lyrics are brilliant and people who think they are depressing are usually missing the point. I'd agree with that sentiment. I think Morrissey is the chief reason people distance themselves from The Smiths. There are aspects of his personality - his intellect, his demeanour, his candour - that make him seem inaccessible; but, as you rightly point out, the biggest problem lies in misinterpretation of his lyrics, where the majority of people mistake wit and sarcasm for melancholy. And to answer your question: his solo albums (with the exception of You Are The Quarry) certainly don't match up to The Smiths in terms of consistent quality, but there are a handful of tunes that, for me, rank alongside The Smiths' best work. The man's a fucking God around these parts.  |
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Post by PolskaBro1824 on Dec 5, 2008 23:09:10 GMT -5
I agree, I hate Morrissey's voice. I kind of agree. I wouldn't say hate, but it sort of gets annoying. Don't get me wrong, I am definitely a fan of the band, but I always wonder what they would have been like if his voice was a bit wider in range. He is a brilliant songwriter and Marr is one of the all time greats. Take him (Marr) out of the equation and I would not even listen to them I don't think. Perhaps why I have never listened to a single Morrissey solo album. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Dec 5, 2008 23:33:10 GMT -5
Perhaps why I have never listened to a single Morrissey solo album. You should try. Starting with You Are The Quarry. |
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Post by gavincampbell on Dec 6, 2008 8:07:34 GMT -5
i think morrissey is a tosser if it wasnt for johnny marr we would never heard of stephen
anyways musically very good but morrisseys vocals suck the thing with the smiths,stone roses etc are put on this pedestal by fans some famous some not.theyre not GREAT but they were the band of the time(s)
take the beatles also put on a pedestal cause they were the first to have appeal.there are many bands musically and lyrically better(doesnt take much to beat ob-la-de-oh-bla-da does it)from the 60s forgetting the popular ones(ah la the who(who in my opinon are the best of the 60s)kinks,small faces)beatles are very poor indeed.
but to say the smiths are rubbish well maybe check out some covers of them instead of watching 5 mins of a documentary then hear the band with possibly better singer.
i honestly read this post as "cause noel says he likes the smiths i should do and dont please help"so decided share the fact YOU have a choice and others here should maybe respect that instead of the customery "are you serious/joking/mad" comments
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Post by bobbyp on Dec 7, 2008 0:47:48 GMT -5
Personally I think the verve are the most under rated band of recent times... You may think that is an odd statement, due to success of urban hymns. But I think the real verve were from 92-95. Listening to "a storm in heaven" and the "verve ep" is a breath of fresh air every time.... nothing to do with the topic... but fuck it. haha.
The smiths, if you like them or not, as with every aspect of music is down to your own opinion. Noel has his... you can have yours.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Dec 7, 2008 13:15:57 GMT -5
But I think the real verve were from 92-95. This is true. A Storm In Heaven is my favourite Verve album. |
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Post by Here Comes The Sun King on Jan 15, 2015 12:02:21 GMT -5
I'm sorry but anyone who says the smiths are a horrible band is wrong.
Morrisseys lyrics are beautiful. Not depressing or stupid, beautiful, nothing less. Listen to i know its over and tell me he isn't the greatest songwriter of all time.
Johnny marr's guitar playing is simply outstanding, every song, no exception his guitar work is brilliant.
Suffer little children
That joke isn't funny anymore
How soon is now?
Those 3 songs match anything oasis did to me.
Oasis
The Beatles
The Smiths.
Are the 3 best bands of all time. No debate (pink Floyd came close).
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Post by LlAM on Jan 15, 2015 12:18:29 GMT -5
Hand in glove
Rubber ring
There is a light that never goes out
Daze train
Are all great tracks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 12:23:17 GMT -5
I had pretty much the same opinion. Thought There Is A Light was fantastic but that was it. Then I heard What Difference Does It Make? and the riff had me hooked. Marr is something special.
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Post by Jailbird on Jan 15, 2015 12:31:34 GMT -5
I had pretty much the same opinion. Thought There Is A Light was fantastic but that was it. Then I heard What Difference Does It Make? and the riff had me hooked. Marr is something special. I didn't get hooked when I heard This Charming Man and There Is A Light, but after hearing What Difference Does It Make? and How Soon Is Now? I bought a compilation album and that absolutely changed my mind about them. Fucking brilliant. Up there with the greats. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 12:34:12 GMT -5
I had pretty much the same opinion. Thought There Is A Light was fantastic but that was it. Then I heard What Difference Does It Make? and the riff had me hooked. Marr is something special. I didn't get hooked when I heard This Charming Man and There Is A Light, but after hearing What Difference Does It Make? and How Soon Is Now? I bought a compilation album and that absolutely changed my mind about them. Fucking brilliant. Up there with the greats. Was it the Sound of The Smiths by any chance? |
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Post by jordan71421 on Jan 15, 2015 12:45:54 GMT -5
The Smiths have become one of my favorite bands ever over this past year. Everything about them is amazing, and they never made a bad album. My favorite song from them changes from time to time, but it usually ends up being the Headmaster Ritual, which I think represents the Smiths the best. To me the Queen is Dead is my favorite album from them, and I especially love Johnny Marr and everything he did in the band, what a genuis
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Post by mimmihopps on Jan 15, 2015 12:47:21 GMT -5
I love The Smiths more than I can tell.
They are one of my 3 life time bands - The Smiths, The Jam and Oasis.
They have had all those B-sides, as great as A-sides and that's one of their charms.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Jan 15, 2015 12:49:54 GMT -5
Nickelback are far better, you're right.
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Post by matt on Jan 15, 2015 13:00:35 GMT -5
Wow, I thought the best song was This Charming Man back in 08 - that said I had only got the new Best Of that had just been released. Wouldn't rank in my top 20 for sure, maybe not even top 30!
For me, they are my favourite band ever which means I think they are the greatest band of all time, I could write a whole book as to why I think so. Certainly, it's definitely not an overstatement in believing them and The Beatles are the most influential bands that have come from Britain.
Everything about them was perfect - literally.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 15, 2015 13:25:40 GMT -5
Was Tim Smith a high flying bird just because oft his name?
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Post by Jailbird on Jan 15, 2015 13:35:52 GMT -5
Was it the Sound of The Smiths by any chance? Yes |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 15, 2015 14:34:33 GMT -5
There is a light that never goes out is one of my most loved (not to be confused with most favourite, which you play to dead) songs ever.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 15, 2015 14:43:31 GMT -5
Mimmi is gonna castrate you. And rightfully so Quoted for truth. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 15, 2015 14:45:55 GMT -5
Reel Around the Fountain was the first Smiths song that I listened to, ever. Still absolutely love that song, one of my favorites of theirs. 15 minutes with Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh, oh I wouldn't say no.... |
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Post by Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh on Jan 15, 2015 14:52:55 GMT -5
Reel Around the Fountain was the first Smiths song that I listened to, ever. Still absolutely love that song, one of my favorites of theirs. 15 minutes with Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh, oh I wouldn't say no.... I'm not gay, I just wanna have a cuddle party with Tom Brady and Urban Meyer. Light petting, a backrub, maybe penetration; who knows, we'll see. Thanks. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 16, 2015 19:04:10 GMT -5
Very unique band. They're one of those bands that it takes time to appriciate because they sound so different to every other "great" band. But once you "get" them, you're hooked.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 16, 2015 20:03:35 GMT -5
Love Marr's guitar on Some Girls are Bigger Than Others....absolutely love the euphoric outro. Marr is a wizard.
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Post by Wolf on Jan 16, 2015 20:52:37 GMT -5
does Noel like them? In the US no one has ever heard of them. I hear Noel refer to them alot as an influence....I watched a VH1 special on British indie rock...They showed clips of them...They were the stupidest band I've ever seen...They were the exact opposite of what Oasis embodies....how are they a influence? I could see how they may of influence Blur....just an opinion. Is this a troll topic? Just because they're unlike Oasis, doesn't mean they can't influence Oasis. The Smiths were in fact a massive influence on Noel's song writing and are one of the greatest bands this country has ever produced. You don't have to like them that's fair enough, but saying they're stupid and horrible just makes you sound fucking childish. |
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Post by Wolf on Jan 16, 2015 20:57:03 GMT -5
Personally I think the verve are the most under rated band of recent times... You may think that is an odd statement, due to success of urban hymns. But I think the real verve were from 92-95. Listening to "a storm in heaven" and the "verve ep" is a breath of fresh air every time.... nothing to do with the topic... but fuck it. haha. The smiths, if you like them or not, as with every aspect of music is down to your own opinion. Noel has his... you can have yours. Rob I'd actually say The Verve are probably the most under rated band of ALL time. Everyone who knows of the verve looks to urban hymns and beyond. They never go back to storm in heaven or northern soul. My GOD, northern soul was a genre defining album. I have the demos from that album too, and even they are just unbelievable pieces of music. |
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