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Post by musicbyday on Sept 20, 2008 21:14:38 GMT -5
I do prefer it to DBTT, my point was that future albums should be all noel written or more realistically 1 from liam and 1 from gem, I do beleive that he has got it in him to write an absolute blinding album that could rival the first two, i just wish someone would tell him, sara maybe? I'm actually pretty sure this is a better album than Definitely Maybe or Morning Glory. I mean sure it'll never been seen that way by music critics because no matter what Oasis does - they'll say it's not as good as those first 2 albums. But I'm saying from a strictly musical interest level - this is in many ways their best album. |
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Post by mape on Sept 20, 2008 22:30:52 GMT -5
Just want to remind those people who are getting upset over reading the negative comments that this is a place to air negative thoughts, so please don't hurl insults at each other.
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Post by desidiosus on Sept 21, 2008 1:18:51 GMT -5
I think it's lame they use five to one by the doors for Waiting for Rapture it sounds exactly the same they didn't even bother to change it a little and it runs through the whole song tsk tsk Noel
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Post by forceofnatureog on Sept 21, 2008 10:06:46 GMT -5
I think it's lame they use five to one by the doors for Waiting for Rapture it sounds exactly the same they didn't even bother to change it a little and it runs through the whole song tsk tsk Noel There's no point in complaining about Oasis jacking other band's parts for their songs, they do it on every album and are totally unapologetic about it. DOYS is 3 songs away from being great. Ain't Got Nothing? Are you fucking kidding me? Out of the 3 new ones that leaked (I Want to Live in a Dream, Stop the Clocks, AGN) in the DBTT demos THIS is the one that we get? Fucking terrible. The Nature of Reality is slow and boring and goes nowhere, same goes for Soldier on which was an awful way to end this album. Better than DBTT, HC and BHN no sweat. Someone needs to smack Noel around for letting his bandmates squash the finale of what should have been their best album since Morning Glory. |
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Post by seanppp on Sept 21, 2008 11:36:22 GMT -5
I haven't listened to any of the new songs (apart from TSOTL and FD) but I find it odd that when they played TBWTL live there was almost unanamous praise for it, and there seems to be unanamous panning of the album version. What happened?
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Post by Rifles on Sept 21, 2008 12:00:45 GMT -5
TBWTL album version is a bit empty in places but I enjoy the hell out of it anyway. I'm Outta Time is not as bad as I originally thought. After a few more listens I like it a bit more, but it doesn't fit with the rest of the tunes. I find Ain't Got Nothin' to be an outcast as well. I've taken those 2 tracks out of my playlist and I even added "Fade In-Out" before High Horse Lady and it all sounds great. All rocking, groovy tunes.
I think Soldier On is cool and actually closes the album well. A lot of people keep bringing up STC and RM but they wouldn't fit the sound of the album at all, in my opinion. If I can thoroughly enjoy an Oasis album by only removing 2 tracks from time to time, that's just as good as DM, MG and SOTSOG for me. All the others require more pruning usually.
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Post by ohasis on Sept 21, 2008 14:25:13 GMT -5
the people that complain about this album are tossers an a re not oasis fans,this is the album weve been waitin to fire back at the critics an sad bloc party twats an radiohead bastards for years,it appears an yet again we want another def maybe,well i think some of this pisses over that albm with ease.an absolute masterpiece by the worlds best band.the only band in the world that could write an album like this is oasis,its innovative,rock,groovy,trancy,bluesy an to tiop it off its the best album ive heard in 13 years,since my songs!! shut up |
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Post by thiefofthenight on Sept 21, 2008 16:34:46 GMT -5
I haven't listened to any of the new songs (apart from TSOTL and FD) but I find it odd that when they played TBWTL live there was almost unanamous praise for it, and there seems to be unanamous panning of the album version. What happened? When they get it right, TBWTL is really good live. The album version is a little flat maybe. I'm sure when the cd comes out and it's full quality, it will sound better. Call it the Mucky Fingers for this album, much better live. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2008 22:38:21 GMT -5
I think it's lame they use five to one by the doors for Waiting for Rapture it sounds exactly the same they didn't even bother to change it a little and it runs through the whole song tsk tsk Noel There's no point in complaining about Oasis jacking other band's parts for their songs, they do it on every album and are totally unapologetic about it. DOYS is 3 songs away from being great. Ain't Got Nothing? Are you fucking kidding me? Out of the 3 new ones that leaked (I Want to Live in a Dream, Stop the Clocks, AGN) in the DBTT demos THIS is the one that we get? Fucking terrible. The Nature of Reality is slow and boring and goes nowhere, same goes for Soldier on which was an awful way to end this album. Better than DBTT, HC and BHN no sweat. Someone needs to smack Noel around for letting his bandmates squash the finale of what should have been their best album since Morning Glory. I would take Solider On or TNOR over Record Machine or Stop The Clocks any day of the week unless they seriously revamped the tunes (ie: everything but the melodies). |
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Post by dj12345 on Sept 21, 2008 23:48:58 GMT -5
althoguh I think the album is very good I think the problem for th album is that the choruses over all isnt reaööy that great. The verses have higher quality through the album.
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Post by baresolid on Sept 22, 2008 9:33:06 GMT -5
I don't think it's fair to compare a shit band like Bloc Party to Radiohead, that's just ridiculous.
Radiohead and Oasis are the two best bands in this country right now.
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Post by Smige on Sept 22, 2008 11:07:48 GMT -5
Bloc Party are good
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Post by njoasisnyc on Sept 22, 2008 13:13:58 GMT -5
just heard the album.. woulda been a good experimental album say 11 years ago.. not 3 years after a decent come back album towards the end of their career.. this album marks the end of oasis.. they basically pursosely killed themselves off.. nothing note worthy on this album. i am bored with it after one listen, prolly will never even listen to it again.
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Post by thelostchord on Sept 22, 2008 15:04:41 GMT -5
Some tracks should be longer
Ain't Got Nothin' and Nature of Reality aren't too good.
End the album with Record Machine.
Can't complain besides that, however.
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Post by Soldier Ron on Sept 22, 2008 15:38:32 GMT -5
He always says that Standing on The Shoulder of Giants came out during a very uninspired time. If he writes songs like Who Feels Love when he's uninspired, then bugger me. I think Noel's played SOTSOG down, like he did with BHN because it received the worst reviews of the band's career up to that point and was also the lowest selling CD (and I think it still is). Critics were going to put the boot into SOTSOG no matter what because of the politics associated with the BHN release and reviews, i.e. that Ignition made journalist sign confidentiailty agreements and contracts before they could listen to tapes of BHN and also the public mood was turning against the media ubiquity of the Gallaghers in the 90s. It gave the papers the excuse they'd been looking for to hammer the album. Noel put more of his soul into the lyrics of openly personal songs like Gas Panic & Roll It Over than any other song in the Oasis canon, exposed himself on the record and was met by a massive slagging off from all sides. I think Noel took the reviews to heart, was genuinely hurt by them and subsequently claimed he was 'uninspired'. I'm not saying SOTSOG was perfect, there's a bit of crap on there - like pretty much every other album that's ever been released come to think of it, but it's not bad enough to be rated 45th in the list of 50 worst albums as those fucks in Q mag rated it a couple years back. |
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Post by jesper on Sept 22, 2008 18:01:27 GMT -5
i agree that part two of the album is quite poor. They should have made it a double album if they wanted to put material like GOYHHL, TNOR, AGN, TBWTL on it. Think i will rarely get past falling down.. The first half is exellent.. I'm sure Andy and Gem has better songs written than these two(i love their songs on DBTT), so i blame it on the entire band, but as it is you do wish Noel had written more songs on doys. I'm disappointet that the
y haven't succeeded in making a real masterpiece, but again just a collection of songs; some great others very poor.
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Post by chapix on Sept 22, 2008 21:05:11 GMT -5
i agree that part two of the album is quite poor. They should have made it a double album if they wanted to put material like GOYHHL, TNOR, AGN, TBWTL on it. Think i will rarely get past falling down.. The first half is exellent.. I'm sure Andy and Gem has better songs written than these two(i love their songs on DBTT), so i blame it on the entire band, but as it is you do wish Noel had written more songs on doys. I'm disappointet that the y haven't succeeded in making a real masterpiece, but again just a collection of songs; some great others very poor. couldnt agree more with you . loved a bell will ring , and turn up the sun but i think noel should write all oasis songs . |
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Post by akanakin on Sept 22, 2008 21:34:51 GMT -5
First of all, I really like this album. A lot. Oasis seems like one of those bands to me that just can't produce a bad song, and nothing is filler (except for a few songs on Giants that I won't mention).
However, I see people saying this album pisses all over Viva La Vida and Radiohead in general. Sure, it is much better than Viva La Vida, but In Rainbows is one of my favorite albums of all time... top 5, maybe even top 3. (Don't worry, Definitely Maybe and Be Here Now are both up there somewhere). In Rainbows was a perfect album, and literally has not a second on it where I am not captivated.
Dig Out Your Soul has a couple snoozers, like The Nature of Reality and Waiting for the Rapture. But other than that, it's about an 8.5/10 or 9/10. The other 9 songs are good, but none of them are an eargasm to me like D'You Know What I Mean or Supersonic. Closest that gets to that is probably Soldier On.
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Post by mariaszm on Sept 22, 2008 21:46:46 GMT -5
all the album is great. i love it..
but TNOR..mm don't like it too much.. boring?.. sounds bad? don't know... but I don't really love it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 23:37:47 GMT -5
I'm not saying SOTSOG was perfect, there's a bit of crap on there - like pretty much every other album that's ever been released come to think of it, but it's not bad enough to be rated 45th in the list of 50 worst albums as those fucks in Q mag rated it a couple years back. Well said. For the record, I believe Q rated SotSoG a 4/5 and said that it would of been a 5/5 if it had Let's All Make Believe, if I remeber correctly. That just shows how fickle those magazines are. |
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Post by letsmakebelieve on Sept 23, 2008 5:34:46 GMT -5
OK let me start this post by saying that I am a diehard fan of every Oasis song and album (sure there are some songs that I like more than others, but I would never classify one of their songs as "rubbish" - I like them all), but as always, I would alter a few things. So after rating DOYS as a 9.25/10 album, here is what I'd do to make it better:
1. BIU - perfect the way it is
2. TT - likewise as BIU
3. WFTR - could be longer...seems because it is mid-tempo, it starts to slowly end right as I am "getting into it"
4. TSOTL - perfect the way it is
5. IOT - agreeing with several on this forum, could use a second verse, making the song about 30 seconds longer
6. GOYHHL - fine the way it is
7. FD - see previous track
8. TBWTL - see previous two tracks
9. IBIA - I would've added this here because it is a faster number and it would kickstart things again, but at the same time, isn't a pulsating rock song
10. AGN - I like this song quite a bit, but at 2:14, it does all it needs to do...no need to make it longer
11. TNOR - the guitar solo in this song does it for me...should go on about another 15 seconds or so
12. SO - love the haunting melody...they could have done so much more with this song and ended it after the 6-minute mark. It would have made it quite epic.
...about one minute of silence...
13. (hidden track) STC - OK let's get a polished, finished version of this song out there so we can all have piece of mind and put this song to bed. We've been hearing about it for ages, not to mention that Noel named a 2-CD compilation after it. It wouldn't be the official ending to DYOS...more like a snifter of cognac after sex :-)
All this, not to mention none of us have heard BWTB yet. Perhaps that might've fit on the album as well???
I love Oasis. I just guess that I miss the days when they put out albums that extended over 50 minutes long. Especially now, considering they put out a new album every three years. Cheers though - DOYS is terrific!
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Post by safajy on Sept 23, 2008 12:18:35 GMT -5
The album is utter crap ,iexpected so much more it sounds fucking hippy,as to those thats say its a grower ,that means first time u heard it it was pretty crap otherwise ud b praising it from the high heavens ,the brutal honest truth is that bhn was the last great album the band done and please will people stop kidding themselves on the first 5 tracks r good ,think of the first 5 songs on some other albums e.g...def maybe
1. Rock 'n' roll star
2. Shakermaker
3. Live forever
4. Up in the sky
5. Columbia
morning glory
1. Hello
2. Roll with it
3. Wonderwall
4. Don't look back in anger
5. Hey now
bhn
1. Do you know what I mean?
2. My big mouth
3. Magic pie
4. Stand by me
5. I hope, I think, I know
the masterplan
1. Acquiesce
2. Underneath the sky
3. Talk tonight
4. Going nowhere
5. Fade away
THE ALBUM IS PISH!!!
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Post by chapix on Sept 23, 2008 15:31:49 GMT -5
The album is utter crap ,iexpected so much more it sounds fucking hippy,as to those thats say its a grower ,that means first time u heard it it was pretty crap otherwise ud b praising it from the high heavens ,the brutal honest truth is that bhn was the last great album the band done and please will people stop kidding themselves on the first 5 tracks r good ,think of the first 5 songs on some other albums e.g...def maybe 1. Rock 'n' roll star 2. Shakermaker 3. Live forever 4. Up in the sky 5. Columbia morning glory 1. Hello 2. Roll with it 3. Wonderwall 4. Don't look back in anger 5. Hey now bhn 1. Do you know what I mean? 2. My big mouth 3. Magic pie 4. Stand by me 5. I hope, I think, I know the masterplan 1. Acquiesce 2. Underneath the sky 3. Talk tonight 4. Going nowhere 5. Fade away THE ALBUM IS PISH!!! i got to agree with you in some points , the album does sound very hippie and very beatle , and that is frustrating , i aint saying is crap , cos doesnt sound bad and tunes are not shite , but still , theres a lack of identity. it is great that it sounds different from previous . but as someone said before its just a collection of new great tunes and not the incredible solid , original , own sound they ve got in their 2 firsts ones. |
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Post by caimanque on Sept 23, 2008 20:01:13 GMT -5
The album is utter crap ,iexpected so much more it sounds fucking hippy,as to those thats say its a grower ,that means first time u heard it it was pretty crap otherwise ud b praising it from the high heavens ,the brutal honest truth is that bhn was the last great album the band done and please will people stop kidding themselves on the first 5 tracks r good ,think of the first 5 songs on some other albums e.g...def maybe 1. Rock 'n' roll star 2. Shakermaker 3. Live forever 4. Up in the sky 5. Columbia morning glory 1. Hello 2. Roll with it 3. Wonderwall 4. Don't look back in anger 5. Hey now bhn 1. Do you know what I mean? 2. My big mouth 3. Magic pie 4. Stand by me 5. I hope, I think, I know the masterplan 1. Acquiesce 2. Underneath the sky 3. Talk tonight 4. Going nowhere 5. Fade away THE ALBUM IS PISH!!! Why u are here then? |
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Post by dhamon on Sept 23, 2008 20:23:43 GMT -5
The album is utter crap ,iexpected so much more it sounds fucking hippy,as to those thats say its a grower ,that means first time u heard it it was pretty crap otherwise ud b praising it from the high heavens ,the brutal honest truth is that bhn was the last great album the band done and please will people stop kidding themselves on the first 5 tracks r good ,think of the first 5 songs on some other albums e.g...def maybe 1. Rock 'n' roll star 2. Shakermaker 3. Live forever 4. Up in the sky 5. Columbia morning glory 1. Hello 2. Roll with it 3. Wonderwall 4. Don't look back in anger 5. Hey now bhn 1. Do you know what I mean? 2. My big mouth 3. Magic pie 4. Stand by me 5. I hope, I think, I know the masterplan 1. Acquiesce 2. Underneath the sky 3. Talk tonight 4. Going nowhere 5. Fade away THE ALBUM IS PISH!!! For me, when I say its a grower, that means that it went from my 3rd favorite Oasis CD to my #1 favorite. It has smashed my very high expectations. I can't wait to hear the B-sides and acoustic radio appearances and alternate takes on songs. I love the direction the band is going. Noel is getting his second wind, songwriting wise. |
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