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Post by henrod89 on Sept 17, 2008 1:43:13 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the clips, but is it really as different as everyone/Noel is saying?? Is it heavy?
I listened to the IBIA clip (because it's a bonus track) and I didn't find it all that 'different.' I found it like a typical Oasis song but with a different tempo. Hopefully it's not like that. I'm happy with all the optimism but I know people tend to go nuts. Hopefully I could get some opinions . . .
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Post by gavincampbell on Sept 17, 2008 3:37:45 GMT -5
Are you allowed to be such an aggressive a hole? I'm trying to put an end to the pollutive clutter that's turning an otherwise brilliant forum into an unintelligible muddle of crap. It's nothing personal, pal, so take a fucking chill pill, alright? and he is a man utd fan its part of their genetic make up ;D but he is a nice guy along with it tho |
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Post by Rifles on Sept 17, 2008 6:57:01 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the clips, but is it really as different as everyone/Noel is saying?? Is it heavy? I listened to the IBIA clip (because it's a bonus track) and I didn't find it all that 'different.' I found it like a typical Oasis song but with a different tempo. Hopefully it's not like that. I'm happy with all the optimism but I know people tend to go nuts. Hopefully I could get some opinions . . . I Believe In All sounds like a left over from DBTT sessions or something. The rest of the album (sans AGN) doesn't sound anything like that. The first half sounds really big, like BHN with a high I.Q. (Bag It Up, The Turning, Waiting For the Rapture, TSOTL) I'm Outta Time sounds, to me, like a cross between SCYHO, LTBL and a Beatles ballad. I hope it's as good as everyone thinks it will be, but i wasn't too impressed with it. Get Off Your High Horse Lady, we've only heard the end of that and it sounds very interesting. It has a bluesy sort of feel. It doesn't sound like a single or a "WOW" song, but it sounds kind of eccentric I guess i would say. Dunno what to compare it to....it has a little Fade In Out vibe but with way less attitude. First time I heard the clip I visualized a lanky guy trying to walk through jello (weird, i know). To Be Where There's Life is gonna be a hit or miss track for everyone i think. The live version sounds really loud and heavy, but the album version apparently has no guitars and i'm just hoping with the real tracks that the bass and keyboards will fill up the air a little more than they do on the shit quality clips. Ain't Got Nothin' sounds virtually unchanged and still just as CRAP. Throw-away tune in my opinion. I'll take meaning of soul any day over this and I pray we don't get it's cousin on the next record. If these 2 minute Liam crapfests appear on every Oasis record from now on i'm gonna be really sad. The Nature of Reality is the one song that I felt weird giving any sort of rating on because the clip doesn't sound that great, but just as its ending it sounds like it picks up so i'm hesitant to say much about it. There's some really crunchy guitar in there so we'll see. Soldier On immediately hit me. I really really like the vocal melody and the way Liam sings what i've heard so far. Hope it doesn't drag on too long and go nowhere. It sounds like it could've been on SOTSOG. It's got that sort of dark atmosphere about it. Keep in mind these are just thoughts from the clips thus far, but it sounds like they really spent some time on these songs, dropped the feel-good gimmick and just went for loud and sort of introspective. It's a lot different from the last 2 albums. |
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Post by henrod89 on Sept 17, 2008 13:18:11 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the clips, but is it really as different as everyone/Noel is saying?? Is it heavy? I listened to the IBIA clip (because it's a bonus track) and I didn't find it all that 'different.' I found it like a typical Oasis song but with a different tempo. Hopefully it's not like that. I'm happy with all the optimism but I know people tend to go nuts. Hopefully I could get some opinions . . . I Believe In All sounds like a left over from DBTT sessions or something. The rest of the album (sans AGN) doesn't sound anything like that. The first half sounds really big, like BHN with a high I.Q. (Bag It Up, The Turning, Waiting For the Rapture, TSOTL) I'm Outta Time sounds, to me, like a cross between SCYHO, LTBL and a Beatles ballad. I hope it's as good as everyone thinks it will be, but i wasn't too impressed with it. Get Off Your High Horse Lady, we've only heard the end of that and it sounds very interesting. It has a bluesy sort of feel. It doesn't sound like a single or a "WOW" song, but it sounds kind of eccentric I guess i would say. Dunno what to compare it to....it has a little Fade In Out vibe but with way less attitude. First time I heard the clip I visualized a lanky guy trying to walk through jello (weird, i know). To Be Where There's Life is gonna be a hit or miss track for everyone i think. The live version sounds really loud and heavy, but the album version apparently has no guitars and i'm just hoping with the real tracks that the bass and keyboards will fill up the air a little more than they do on the shit quality clips. Ain't Got Nothin' sounds virtually unchanged and still just as CRAP. Throw-away tune in my opinion. I'll take meaning of soul any day over this and I pray we don't get it's cousin on the next record. If these 2 minute Liam crapfests appear on every Oasis record from now on i'm gonna be really sad. The Nature of Reality is the one song that I felt weird giving any sort of rating on because the clip doesn't sound that great, but just as its ending it sounds like it picks up so i'm hesitant to say much about it. There's some really crunchy guitar in there so we'll see. Soldier On immediately hit me. I really really like the vocal melody and the way Liam sings what i've heard so far. Hope it doesn't drag on too long and go nowhere. It sounds like it could've been on SOTSOG. It's got that sort of dark atmosphere about it. Keep in mind these are just thoughts from the clips thus far, but it sounds like they really spent some time on these songs, dropped the feel-good gimmick and just went for loud and sort of introspective. It's a lot different from the last 2 albums. Thanks for an in-depth response. I was disappointed with IBIA and hoping that it wasn't 'different' in that type of way. It's good to hear that it's not. And yea, I too hope they stop putting those two-minute shit songs that Liam contributes. The only song that he pulled it off somewhat successfully was Songbird. And I think the band just keeps waiting for another one to come. I wouldn't mind if they limited him to only two songs an album. But anyways, I'm looking forward to this album and hopefully DOYS will be well worth the wait . . . |
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 17, 2008 13:21:20 GMT -5
I haven't listened to the clips, but is it really as different as everyone/Noel is saying?? Is it heavy? I listened to the IBIA clip (because it's a bonus track) and I didn't find it all that 'different.' I found it like a typical Oasis song but with a different tempo. Hopefully it's not like that. I'm happy with all the optimism but I know people tend to go nuts. Hopefully I could get some opinions . . . I Believe In All sounds like a left over from DBTT sessions or something. The rest of the album (sans AGN) doesn't sound anything like that. The first half sounds really big, like BHN with a high I.Q. (Bag It Up, The Turning, Waiting For the Rapture, TSOTL) I'm Outta Time sounds, to me, like a cross between SCYHO, LTBL and a Beatles ballad. I hope it's as good as everyone thinks it will be, but i wasn't too impressed with it. Get Off Your High Horse Lady, we've only heard the end of that and it sounds very interesting. It has a bluesy sort of feel. It doesn't sound like a single or a "WOW" song, but it sounds kind of eccentric I guess i would say. Dunno what to compare it to....it has a little Fade In Out vibe but with way less attitude. First time I heard the clip I visualized a lanky guy trying to walk through jello (weird, i know). To Be Where There's Life is gonna be a hit or miss track for everyone i think. The live version sounds really loud and heavy, but the album version apparently has no guitars and i'm just hoping with the real tracks that the bass and keyboards will fill up the air a little more than they do on the shit quality clips. Ain't Got Nothin' sounds virtually unchanged and still just as CRAP. Throw-away tune in my opinion. I'll take meaning of soul any day over this and I pray we don't get it's cousin on the next record. If these 2 minute Liam crapfests appear on every Oasis record from now on i'm gonna be really sad. The Nature of Reality is the one song that I felt weird giving any sort of rating on because the clip doesn't sound that great, but just as its ending it sounds like it picks up so i'm hesitant to say much about it. There's some really crunchy guitar in there so we'll see. Soldier On immediately hit me. I really really like the vocal melody and the way Liam sings what i've heard so far. Hope it doesn't drag on too long and go nowhere. It sounds like it could've been on SOTSOG. It's got that sort of dark atmosphere about it. Keep in mind these are just thoughts from the clips thus far, but it sounds like they really spent some time on these songs, dropped the feel-good gimmick and just went for loud and sort of introspective. It's a lot different from the last 2 albums. To Be Where Theres Life is a hit for me. Love this tune, its great live, but I love what Ive heard of the studio version. I like how it has no guitar, Its different for Oasis. Def gonna be one of my favorite tunes on DOYS |
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Post by Rifles on Sept 17, 2008 13:33:07 GMT -5
See I hope To Be Where There's Life is a real stomper when we get a proper listen. I'm hoping the bass really thumps and we get some cool keyboard effects. I have a feeling I'll really like it if that's the case. The clip sounds really flat, but it's super low quality so i'm holding out hope for it.
Henrod, I figured i'd write a lengthy response rather than just say "no it doesn't sound like the rest". If I had asked the question I'd be hoping for a little more info than that so there you go. It sounds quite good thus far and virtually nothing like post-SOTSOG Oasis.
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Post by Elias on Sept 17, 2008 14:18:35 GMT -5
At the moment I'm thinking I wouldn't at all mind hearing a full album of Next Tribe covering Oasis songs.
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Post by AbbeyR0ad on Sept 19, 2008 4:43:32 GMT -5
bump
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Post by dearprudence on Sept 19, 2008 9:31:36 GMT -5
On behalf of everyone who's sick and fucking tired of seeing a brand new thread created by every Tom, Dick and Harry with a pair of ears and the ability to process thoughts - regardless of how inane, obscure and/or pointless they are - I present to you: the Official Dig Out Your Soul Musings thread. Now post them here or DIE!   ;D |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Sept 19, 2008 21:31:19 GMT -5
Just thought I'd bump and sticky this again now the album's out. ;D
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Post by BagItUp11 on Sept 20, 2008 0:42:58 GMT -5
Mates,fellow oasis fans,there is no greater and passionate fan than i, who understands that no single artist over the last 30 years has the incredible, jaw dropping, and down right brilliant catalog that Sir Noel Gallagher has displayed for us over the last 14years.The bands 1st 4 albums, including a B-Sides album in 'The Masterplan', which, by the way may be the best of them all!, were down right other-worldy, not to mention the post 2000 B-Side catalog that the genius has provided for our undeserving ears. However, i am one who, no matter how much love and affection i have for the man, and the band, cannot sit here and lie about this new album. How is it possible, that the greatest lyricist, musician, vocalist, and mind of our age, who undoubtedly still has many captivating,tear flowing, heart wrenching and simply heavenly songs in his reserves,(Stop The Clocks, IWLIADream)that he can literally bring himself down to such a level. His lyrics on this album, and i never thought i would say this, are liam like!, possibly, no probably, even worse. It is almost as if he indeed did "Dig Out His Soul', and sold it to the devil himself, and this is all he could come up with after doing so. I will never take for granted what he has delivered to my heart, my mind, and my life with his awe-inspiring words, his spellbinding guitar riffs, or his angelic voice, but ladies..gents i leave you with, not an opinion, but a sad, sad truth.
Dig Out Your Soul= SHIT!
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Post by thuperthonic on Sept 20, 2008 1:23:07 GMT -5
^^ the downside of it being so easy to copy and paste.
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Post by mrsifta on Sept 20, 2008 4:50:36 GMT -5
i have listened to this album 5 times now since last night. on first listen i thought the 2nd half clearly wasnt as good as the first half of the album...in particularly i didnt get TNOR for whatever reason. i have now slept on it and have just listened to the entire album again and i now love TNOR...its normal for me at the beginning of absorbing a new album to dismiss a few then they just hit me...this is oasis most complete album in 10 years...its funny as i am sure everyone who is nit picking at songs saying they are SHIT are the definately maybe. whats the story die hards most probably..take this album for what it is........a great piece of work...i have a mate who couldnt care less for oasis and now wants to listen to it for a second time and says its the best slbum he heard for a long time as its so different.....which is exactly the point...embrace this new sound instead of dismissing it...
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Sept 20, 2008 5:16:16 GMT -5
parts of it are massively underwhelming...is it a grower? god i hope so...
bag it up - hahaha, this is supposed to be on par with supersonic?? the first few chords are promising and then it get's tedious. it'sclearly written as an opener and it's nothing more. the white stripes mashed up with pretty things. sorry then, i prefer "icky thump". great album btw. check it out if you havent already
the turning - now this is more of the raw rocker i expected...with a piano!!! funnily enough i prefer the verse over the chorus. OMG a guitar solo in an oasis song again.
waiting for the rapture - i get it, noel. you love BRMC. so do i. but leave those songs to liam in the future. best thing about it is that it's short.
shock of the lightning - zak (almost) rescues a mediocre piece of music
i'm outta time - liam's best song so far? yes. and that's saying something considering GGTIA, Sb and BOADC.
get off your high horse lady - nicked directly from the white album. very different for oasis. liking the vocals.
falling down - gets better with every listen. . such a sweet vocal. again a very "different" sounding song
to be where there's life - better than columbia. and that's about it really.
ain't got nothin' - phhht...
nature of reality - again an attempt at garage rock..what can i say...the instrumental is nice on the first listen. i have all ride albums and i'm wondering how andy came up with such a lame vocal.
soldier on - a tough one...okay, it's not a great song but it's a damn good closer. i like how liam tried to sing something different this time. the psychedelic feel reminds me of BOADC (which shouldve closed HC)
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Post by supersonic1983 on Sept 20, 2008 5:25:32 GMT -5
Wow, tough crowd.  |
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Post by chapix on Sept 20, 2008 8:36:18 GMT -5
waiting for the rapture , amazing , is winning the prize.
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Post by soldieroff on Sept 20, 2008 9:05:36 GMT -5
the inital listen.....favourite song is the turning
closely followed by I'm outta time and falling down
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Sept 20, 2008 9:19:06 GMT -5
I can't help feeling a bit let down by Soldier On (sorry Liam). It's a cool tune, but doesn't lend an epic end to an epic album. It's doesn't feel psychedelic at all.
A better ending? Record Machine, sung by Liam. It may be too much of a flag waver for this album, but since when has that stopped them before? It does feel a bit Oasis by the numbers, but that's not such a bad thing after the adventures that came before....
Thoughts?
PS - The rest of the album kicks ass and some of you are VERY hard to please. I'd like to hear your nominations for great albums.
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Post by caats19 on Sept 20, 2008 9:47:08 GMT -5
really dig Soldier On. great closer i think. lots of people here are obsessed with choruses but i think it doesn't really need one. "soldier on" just sounds cool when liam sings it. great album capper IMO
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Post by smn620 on Sept 20, 2008 10:27:08 GMT -5
Downloaded it pretty late last night and listened to the tracks alone a few times and a couple of them underwhelmed me. I messed with the volume this morning and burned it onto disc and I've played it all the way through 4-5 times now and I'm sold.
I actually prefer Bag It Up to The Turning I think. The Turning's verses could've been a little heavier mixed while Bag It Up is just proper rock n' roll and Liam's voice is insanely good on the first couple of lines. Both really good tracks though and Bag It Up is probably the best opening track since D'You Know What I Mean? I think.
I didn't really "get" Waiting For The Rapture till this morning but after a few listens it's one of my favourite tracks. Should probably be the third single after I'm Outta Time in fact. It's as if Noel took the potential that Mucky Fingers and Full On had, threw them into the mixing pot and came out with that. Love the Doors knock-off guitar at the start.
Shock Of The Lightning is a perfect first single, not much else to say. Loved it from the moment I heard it on the radio. The chorus (or non-chorus as some would argue) is brilliant.
I'm Outta Time is my favourite track by far. The best Oasis ballad since Stop Crying Your Heart Out and perhaps Wonderwall even. For my money it's the second album in a row where Liam's had the best track, too (last time out was Love Like A Bomb). Weird how his ballad tracks seem to be better than his rockier ones! But yeah, amazing song and it definitely could be a big radio hit.
Last night I didn't like High Horse or The Nature Of Reality at all, but I've definitely warmed to the former. The thumping beat is great and Noel's vocals, while weird, are pretty great. Bizarre track that wouldn't have seemed at home on any other Oasis album. Nature Of Reality's melody is nothing special, but the questioning lyrics fit with the rest of the album and the guitar riff is pretty dope.
To Be Where There's Life is pretty Beatle-ish although I prefer the live guitar version I think. The bass and the hypnotic ish that it has going on is really cool though. Again, it's not a stand-out track but it fits with what the album's trying to do.
Ain't Got Nothin I never had a problem with from the demo version. Just a short, vicious bit of rock. I'm glad it got on the album if only because I remember the articles about it like, five years or so ago!
I don't get the complaining about Soldier On, either. Very Kasabian-ish I thought. And to the person who thought Record Machine should've closed the album over this, no way. The whole album has the hypnotic druggy feel going on and Record Machine just doesn't fit that style at all.
Overall I'm really impressed. There's nothing that I'd say is Oasis-by-the-numbers outside of maybe TSOTL, and even that's not exactly Little By Little or Lyla, is it? It's not a flawless record but then how many flawless records even exist? Even Definitely Maybe has its problems (a bit too one-dimensional and would've benefited from the inclusion of Whatever...) but I'd still consider that a phenomenal album.
DOYS is cohesive throughout, it's heavier and it's a clear step forward from DBTT. It's also good in the fact that after DBTT, which is a great record in its own right, they haven't made an attempt to "get back" to DM or WTSMG, like they did with Heathen Chemistry after SOTSOG didn't make the impact it might've done. Hopefully this means the band are comfortable with their status as legends at this point and will make the records they want to make, rather than whatever they think the fans want to hear, if you know what I mean. If I'm rating it I'd give it a solid 8.5/10. To put that into perspective...
WTSMG - 10/10
DM - 9/10
DOYS - 8.5/10
BHN - 8.5/10
DBTT - 8/10
HC - 7.5/10
SOTSOG - 7/10
All of the albums have their own merits and strong points, so yeah.
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Sept 20, 2008 11:04:12 GMT -5
With all due respect, how exactly is Soldier On psychedelic? Simple beat, simple 4/4 piano, two verses. It's over by 2:15 and then repeats "soldier on" ad nauseum.
Don't get me wrong, it's cool. I like it. I just think Record Machine would have been bad-ass. Especially with production keeping in line with the rest of the record.
The lyrics also have a surrealistic feel that corresponds better to rag dolls, lightning, high horses, butterflies, mining a dream, someone tell me I'm dreaming, etc.
It's just a very understated, trance-like ending. IMO.
Hell, Stop The Clocks would've been even better. Keep Soldier On on there and just add STC. 12 songs is VERY reasonable considering the three year wait between albums these days.
Oh well. Doesn't matter.
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Post by smn620 on Sept 20, 2008 11:07:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I could see STC on the end actually. Make the weird part at the end a bit longer and have Liam singing and that would've worked well.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 20, 2008 13:15:07 GMT -5
I own every single Oasis CD, just like everyone else. There are some tracks on every album that I can't listen to ever again because they're a bit dull, stuff like "Up in the Sky", "Bring It on Down", and "Digsy's Dinner" from Definitely Maybe come to mind (I'm not saying they're bad, I love "Digsy's Dinner", but it's one of those filler tracks). The "The Swamp Song" excerpts in (What's the Story) Morning Glory? would have been better off not being included on the CD, being that we're in an age of the MP3 Player, there are probably people like myself who leave it out since they have The Masterplan anyway. To be honest though, I've never liked their instrumentals, it's just basically the band jamming, anyone can do that.
On the other hand, Dig Out Your Soul is very much geared towards a mainstream audience, every track on there is great and they could all be future singles. The critics right now are saying that kids are listening to older music because it sounds better on the new technology, and I for one agree. I'm starting to see less and less people listening to rap and going for stuff by The Beatles, The Clash, Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, and reggae. I think this album will attract a lot of those people that are into that because it does have that groove filling and at the moment that's what everyone wants to be nowadays, the next Beatles (at least in my school, but no one there knows Oasis).
Going back to skipping tracks on the other albums, I just have to listen to the whole album in one go, and I have for the last twenty times I listened (I basically put it on and couldn't sleep because I was dancing to it). I think their first US single should be "Bag It Up," it's very rocky and radio friendly, I love the "more, more, more" bit. "The Turning" will be a classic with a line like "Shake your rag doll baby!" It's very soft at the start and then the chorus comes in, then BOOM. Noel sung songs are always great, "Waiting for the Rapture" is very impressive "I'm tired, come get me off the merry-go-round," the way he sings it is so pleasing. "The Shock of the Lightning" of course is great and flows really well with the album. "I'm Outta Time" I think will be a classic, I could see Liam just sitting there on his on singing the lyrics, I could see it getting a lot of airplay on the radio, it'd be a hit in the US. I actually find "(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady" quite sensual, at least in Noel's voice. I think if it was made into a single, they could use some nice model and have the video be in slow motion.
"Falling Down" is bound to be a huge anthem, I can't wait to see the video they produce for it, it has to be something extreme like Noel standing on a mountain or something, screaming out the lyrics. Just as I thought, the produced version of "To Be Where There's Life" is awesome, really grooving sounds, I'm really glad they decided to add lyrics to it, it'd be just filler if it was just left alone, and the lyrics rock! "Ain't Got Nothin'" is probably the weakest on the album, but it's a lot better produced than in the demo we heard earlier in the year. The rhythm in "The Nature of Reality" is amazing, really rocking, very simple, classic. "Soldier On" ends the album very nicely, very touching in a way.
I say don't skip any of the tracks for those of you who haven't listened yet, listen to it all the way through at least five times before you make up your mind about it. They've made a really, really, really good album this time around. It's going to be huge everywhere and is probably going to blow up the music industry in the US, that's if we keep the sales up. If there's enough hype, it will definitely happen for them this time around.
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Post by Dr. O'boogie on Sept 20, 2008 14:15:46 GMT -5
There are some tracks on every album that I can't listen to ever again because they're a bit dull, stuff like "Up in the Sky", "Bring It on Down" HUH?!?!? Filler? Bring It On Down??!?!?! Wow. Each to their own, I guess. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 20, 2008 14:28:05 GMT -5
This album is mega. The Turning is incredible. The Nature of Relaity is by far the worst song, but the guitar solo is ACE.
With DBTT and DOYS, Oasis have indeed cemented the fact that they are back. As if there were any doubts!
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