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Post by custodian on Jul 14, 2008 21:17:22 GMT -5
Really can't wait to hear the full thing.
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Post by Robohump on Jul 14, 2008 21:19:13 GMT -5
i totally disagree on bringing in a producer that'll polish their sound. you try to overproduce oasis and you'll get SOTSG and HC. no thanks. no soul in HC. imo Sardy saved the last album. if it was produced by Death In Vegas like originally, it wouldn't have been nearly as good. Not what I'm saying at all.... Owen Morris had Oasis rocking way more than Sardy does, and there were no shit guitar tones etc... and that was with inferior gear to what they use now. I'm up for MORE raw sounding but the specifics come with mic placement, recording method (2" tape vs. Pro Tools), EQ, compression etc. Sardy is an American FM radio style producer who gets some cool sounds, but overall there are just some elements to his work with Oasis that I don't like... Here here. Owen Morris should have never been let go.
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Post by Robohump on Jul 14, 2008 21:20:06 GMT -5
Really can't wait to hear the full thing. Why? It sounds like a cat piss DBTT B-side.
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Post by quellophant on Jul 14, 2008 21:22:57 GMT -5
Not what I'm saying at all.... Owen Morris had Oasis rocking way more than Sardy does, and there were no shit guitar tones etc... and that was with inferior gear to what they use now. I'm up for MORE raw sounding but the specifics come with mic placement, recording method (2" tape vs. Pro Tools), EQ, compression etc. Sardy is an American FM radio style producer who gets some cool sounds, but overall there are just some elements to his work with Oasis that I don't like... Here here. Owen Morris should have never been let go. Just out of interest does anyone know why they started to choose different producers? Most bands, when trying to recapture form bring back the producer they used in their peak. Why haven't we seen this? I really hate what Sardy has made oasis become!
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Post by Bloomfield on Jul 14, 2008 21:23:05 GMT -5
Really can't wait to hear the full thing. Why? It sounds like a cat piss DBTT B-side. Well you can't say that yet... it's just a low bit-rate sample of the last few seconds... Let's wait for the release to love it or hate.
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Post by caats19 on Jul 14, 2008 21:28:59 GMT -5
seconds 3-5 sound like the drum solo from the beatles- the end. just all fast. pretty cool.
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Post by custodian on Jul 14, 2008 21:29:28 GMT -5
Really can't wait to hear the full thing. Why? It sounds like a cat piss DBTT B-side. You're basing this conclusion on 20 seconds of the song.
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Post by Bloomfield on Jul 14, 2008 21:33:27 GMT -5
Here here. Owen Morris should have never been let go. Just out of interest does anyone know why they started to choose different producers? Most bands, when trying to recapture form bring back the producer they used in their peak. Why haven't we seen this? I really hate what Sardy has made oasis become! I have no idea why they went with Sardy... I guess they were under the impression that Jet were cool so they went with their producer. Oasis went away from Owen because SOTSOG was a different time and place for Oasis... and Noel wanted to get away from some of Owen Morris' production habits... (Owen is LOUD and the drugs/randomness were wearing on Noel) but to me Owen is the most important producer in the UK... his production on A Northern Soul is staggering and the pioneering of "Brick Walling" made Oasis sound immense. The "cool" production these days is perfect separation and clarity (see Eno on the latest Coldplay) and I hate it. We'll see what the record sounds like, but they need some natural reverb and everything needs to be a bit less pristine... and doing it all on tape would be nice... I can hear the digital in Sardy's work.
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Jul 14, 2008 21:43:59 GMT -5
ekohc noos pu nepo rae
the riddler Rubbish
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Post by alliwantisthetruth on Jul 15, 2008 0:08:01 GMT -5
check soon open ear - could it be streaming on digoutyoursoul.com?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 15, 2008 0:34:18 GMT -5
Just out of interest does anyone know why they started to choose different producers? Most bands, when trying to recapture form bring back the producer they used in their peak. Why haven't we seen this? I really hate what Sardy has made oasis become! I have no idea why they went with Sardy... I guess they were under the impression that Jet were cool so they went with their producer. Oasis went away from Owen because SOTSOG was a different time and place for Oasis... and Noel wanted to get away from some of Owen Morris' production habits... (Owen is LOUD and the drugs/randomness were wearing on Noel) but to me Owen is the most important producer in the UK... his production on A Northern Soul is staggering and the pioneering of "Brick Walling" made Oasis sound immense. The "cool" production these days is perfect separation and clarity (see Eno on the latest Coldplay) and I hate it. We'll see what the record sounds like, but they need some natural reverb and everything needs to be a bit less pristine... and doing it all on tape would be nice... I can hear the digital in Sardy's work. Sardy made oasis sound fresh again on dbtt, Noel know's he cant do that with himself producing. I'd guess he also doesn't want to go backwards by getting Owen in. I'm really glad i dont listen to records in such a critical way, must take so much fun out of them.
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Post by castnoshadow123 on Jul 15, 2008 1:16:06 GMT -5
You have to be a hardcore fan to like DBTT. It lacks effort and very uninspiring
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2008 1:50:32 GMT -5
Some of you guys are fucking ridiculous.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 15, 2008 2:32:57 GMT -5
It lacks effort and very uninspiring LOL. Its you're opinion if you think it uninspired, but lacks effort?!? WTF?
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Post by Jonny on Jul 15, 2008 10:17:07 GMT -5
It reminds me very much of Won't Get Fooled Again by the Who.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 15, 2008 10:33:29 GMT -5
Some of you guys are fucking ridiculous. Ain't that the truth! Idiots
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jul 15, 2008 10:34:56 GMT -5
Mentalists.
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Post by jasonbourne on Jul 15, 2008 11:19:28 GMT -5
Who the hell would want this clip as their ringtone?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 15, 2008 11:25:29 GMT -5
You have to be a hardcore fan to like DBTT. It lacks effort and very uninspiring You're entitled to your opinion, so if you don't like DBTT, that's fine. But if you do hate it, you're damn wrong of the reasons. Uninspiring? Lacks effort? I dont think so. TIOBI and POTQ are one of Noel's finest efforts. "Every beginning has broken its promise" is one of Noels best ever written lines, ever. Lyla and KTDA alive are typical Oasis, very similar to Roll With It and Stand By Me respectively. LLAB is a lovely spring/summer time tune, and explodes into a nice melody when the piano kicks in MOS is packed with energy and attitude and is a great song to play when you're pissed off. GGTIA is not my fav Liam tune, but the "no one can take us/no can break us" part is fantastic MF and LTBL aren't my fav tunes, and are one of the weakest on DBTT, but they both have great lyrics. I'm not a fan of ABWR though, too preachy. So 3 mediocre songs, and the rest of the album is genius. You may not like it, but def not for the reasons you listed.
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Post by djbrades on Jul 15, 2008 11:43:10 GMT -5
TIOBI and POTQ are one of Noel's finest efforts. "Every beginning has broken its promise" is one of Noels best ever written lines, ever. Can you explain why you like that line so much. I'm curious to see what you think it means. I think the line "I fall down, Heaven won't help me" is great, but maybe that's just cause I believe it.
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Post by caimanque on Jul 15, 2008 13:22:51 GMT -5
It reminds me very much of Won't Get Fooled Again by the Who. I thought that the first time I heard it. Sardy is the best. We're in 2008. No more 90's. I don't want Oasis like a "Rock dad" band.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jul 15, 2008 15:04:13 GMT -5
"Every beginning has broken its promise" is one of Noels best ever written lines, ever. Can you explain why you like that line so much. ;D I've been wondering that too. It's not exactly outstanding.
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Post by Robohump on Jul 15, 2008 15:39:48 GMT -5
You have to be a hardcore fan to like DBTT. It lacks effort and very uninspiring MOS is packed with energy and attitude and is a great song to play when you're pissed off. If you actually believe MOS is a "great song", you are beyond all hope of ever having good taste in music. I could have written that piece of crap song.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jul 15, 2008 16:13:16 GMT -5
TIOBI and POTQ are one of Noel's finest efforts. "Every beginning has broken its promise" is one of Noels best ever written lines, ever. Can you explain why you like that line so much. I'm curious to see what you think it means.I think the line "I fall down, Heaven won't help me" is great, but maybe that's just cause I believe it. It's a good dreary lyric as I think Noel is trying to convey that every new beginning (I'm looking at beginning as a positive word here) like a policy or an ideology in society is never fulfilled to what it proclaims due to human corruption or human faults(it's like also the white light being broken, straying from the path of wisdom)...it's ungodly and hence 'I'm having trouble finding my soul in this town.'
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Post by caats19 on Jul 15, 2008 16:41:01 GMT -5
You have to be a hardcore fan to like DBTT. It lacks effort and very uninspiring disagree there. lots of critics liked it too. i think you have to be hardcore to like HC. piece of crap.
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