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Nov 1, 2007 14:20:14 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 1, 2007 14:20:14 GMT -5
1.) Overmars and Pires were much better than Rosicky, and the Invincible team was still much better than this current crop
2.) Gilberto isnt playing much, is he?
3.) Fergie is still past it. He will never come close to a treble again, and he's not dominating the Prem like he did in the 90s.
So, how was i wrong?
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Arsenal
Nov 1, 2007 15:35:37 GMT -5
Post by feckarse on Nov 1, 2007 15:35:37 GMT -5
Haha, you plank! ;D In my opinion, Gilberto was without doubt our best player last season, he was the engine behind Cesc... The reason he can't get into the team is because of the phenomenal form of Flamini this season.. doesn't change that he's absolute quality... Sadly I think he could be on his way shortly though if he doesn't get a run back in the team . And yeah, Ferguson's a bit shit, innit.
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Nov 1, 2007 16:13:25 GMT -5
Post by daysleeper on Nov 1, 2007 16:13:25 GMT -5
1.) Overmars and Pires were much better than Rosicky, and the Invincible team was still much better than this current crop 2.) Gilberto isnt playing much, is he? 3.) Fergie is still past it. He will never come close to a treble again, and he's not dominating the Prem like he did in the 90s. So, how was i wrong? you wanker! what a tool. no wonder you wind people up so much with your political arguments coz you've just wound me up here and im not even an arsenal fan... why cant you just admit you were largely wrong rather than pick up on 1 or 2 points where its possible you could still be right on? i agree with point 1. however point 2 is stupid - as feck pointed out, Gilberto was possibly the best player last year. He will figure this year - there are more in form players at the moment and you dont fuck too much with a winning team (benitez take note of our good managers do it....) but when things go wrong and experience is needed (ie. champions league knockouts) you'll see Gilberto back point 3 is just garbage of the highest order. cant believe you're still sticking to it when you are clearly, factually wrong
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Nov 1, 2007 17:37:09 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 1, 2007 17:37:09 GMT -5
i agree, Gilberto was amazing last season. He proved me wrong, cos prior seasons i didnt really care for him.
As for alex, winning 1 prem trophy in 3 (or is it 4?) years isnt a good record. For him to prove me wrong, he'll need to win 2 in 3 or something like that. Blackburn won a league title in 1996, does that mean anything?
And yes, i know its been awhile since AW won something too. But he doesnt spend 30mill on one player.
And if AW didnt win anything for another 2 years (5 years in total trophyless) i reckon he would move on. But have no fear, cos we're def winning ATLEAST ONE trophy this season. Oh yes! i can feel it
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Nov 1, 2007 17:52:38 GMT -5
Post by globe on Nov 1, 2007 17:52:38 GMT -5
For him to prove me wrong, he'll need to win 2 in 3 or something like that. Thats right, he's only won 9 titles in England, 5 FA Cups, 2 League Cups, 1 Champions League. 3 titles, 4 Cups, 1 League Cup in Scotland, 2 Cup Winners Cups, produced some of the best young players this country has seen and managed his country in a World Cup. What a diddy, I'm sure he will be doing his up most this season to prove such a football genius like yourself wrong. ps wikipedia is great
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Nov 1, 2007 18:00:29 GMT -5
Post by daysleeper on Nov 1, 2007 18:00:29 GMT -5
As for alex, winning 1 prem trophy in 3 (or is it 4?) years isnt a good record. For him to prove me wrong, he'll need to win 2 in 3 or something like that. Blackburn won a league title in 1996, does that mean anything? either you're on the wind up or thats the most idiotic thing you've ever posted 1 prem trophy in the past 4 years.... but that was last year. So if winning the league at the most recent opportunity and winning it about 10 times over the past 15 years doesnt count as a "good" record then fuck knows what does
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Nov 1, 2007 18:07:19 GMT -5
Post by MG on Nov 1, 2007 18:07:19 GMT -5
ferguson is shit sack him, only 16 goals in the last 4 games I had a nightmare the other night that Arsenal beat United 2-1 it was Helb or Gallas who walked the ball over the line in the 90 minute and back out again and the ref gave it then said no then let the goal stand
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Nov 1, 2007 19:28:04 GMT -5
Post by feckarse on Nov 1, 2007 19:28:04 GMT -5
I put €1 on Arsenal to win 5-2. That's a cool €375 profit I stand to make!
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Nov 1, 2007 23:35:45 GMT -5
Post by masterplan200 on Nov 1, 2007 23:35:45 GMT -5
Pardon my anti-Arsenal stance but whose big ego said their new stadium had to be named after a sponsor? And if I hear 'I did not see it' from Wenger I'll be owed from him a new TV
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Post by Moorish on Nov 2, 2007 6:09:12 GMT -5
1.) Overmars and Pires were much better than Rosicky, and the Invincible team was still much better than this current crop 2.) Gilberto isnt playing much, is he? 3.) Fergie is still past it. He will never come close to a treble again, and he's not dominating the Prem like he did in the 90s. So, how was i wrong? 1) Agree in basic principle - although Rosicky has been injured a lot, in fairness to him, and is very young. Slightly unfair to compare him to players who were already at the top of their game when they arrived at Arsenal. 2) As pointed out above, and conceded by yourself, Gilberto was superb last season. Being away on international duty early in the season and Flamini's superb form is what's keeping him out of the team, but he will be back. He was great in midweek (only Sheffield Utd, but still, that clearance off the line was top). 3) Stupid point. How many people EVER won the treble? ONLY Fergie. It is fucking hard to do, never mind get close to! The fact is you wrote him off as a "spent force" and he went and won the league. I can't believe I am actually sticking up for Ferguson, I can't stand the red-faced tossbag!
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Nov 2, 2007 18:07:30 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 2, 2007 18:07:30 GMT -5
ok ok, i was wrong about Fergie.
I wrote this for my HS English class senior year (February 2006), and atleast this is proving correct (I titled the paper "Broken Cannon" which is an ace title, innit haha)
The conclusion is all that's needed:
Arsenal Football Club are currently a team in transition. The team possesses great talent along with potential. Their failures this season account for that prospective talent, which is not enough in the toughest, most competitive football league in the world. Should the young players learn from this season and come out with all guns blazing in the 2006/2007 season, the struggle will be deemed well worth it. Arsenal are not a team in decline, but a team waiting to start another era. Time will make the style of the old Arsenal be seen again, transformed into the immaculate Arsenal of new.
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Post by MG on Nov 3, 2007 9:41:08 GMT -5
I had a nightmare the other night that Arsenal beat United 2-1 it was Helb or Gallas who walked the ball over the line in the 90 minute and back out again and the ref gave it then said no then let the goal stand Thats scary ok, it wasn't the winner but a last minute goal by Gallas the bundeled over the line Didn't see the game, just had it on the radio - seems Arsenal were the better side but United took their chances as an away team has to do and were unlucky at the end
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 3, 2007 9:57:51 GMT -5
If Arsenal were the better side, how the hell were United unlucky?
If anything, Arsenal were unlucky. Conceded two VERY soft goals.
Whatever. We are top the league, say we are top the league!
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Nov 3, 2007 10:01:27 GMT -5
Post by MG on Nov 3, 2007 10:01:27 GMT -5
Because they were 2-1 up and conceded in the last min.
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Nov 3, 2007 10:16:57 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2007 10:16:57 GMT -5
If Arsenal were the better side, how the hell were United unlucky? If anything, Arsenal were unlucky. Conceded two VERY soft goals. Whatever. We are top the league, say we are top the league! how does being shit in defence make you unlucky? thought a draw was a fair result, poor game. anderson was a twat and should be kicked out the team till he learns his lesson
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Nov 3, 2007 12:28:20 GMT -5
Post by feckarse on Nov 3, 2007 12:28:20 GMT -5
Arsenal controlled the possession, but United were ruthless whenever they went forward, and defended deeply.
Both sides can consider themselves unlucky in different ways... Conceding a goal two minutes into injury time cannot be considered 'fortunate'.
A draw not really unfair on either team.
EDIT: Ross, poor game? Were you watching the same match?! The first half was quiet for a fair while, but the tempo of the game after the first goal was great! I thoroughly enjoyed the game.
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Nov 3, 2007 15:02:41 GMT -5
Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 3, 2007 15:02:41 GMT -5
That result will do a lot more for Arsenal than it will for United. Before the game I'd have taken the draw, but under those circumstances it's definitely not a point gained.
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Nov 3, 2007 16:55:52 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2007 16:55:52 GMT -5
EDIT: Ross, poor game? Were you watching the same match?! The first half was quiet for a fair while, but the tempo of the game after the first goal was great! I thoroughly enjoyed the game. first half was utter wank (not helped by the whistle happy ref), second was okay nothing special.
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Post by Moorish on Nov 5, 2007 5:35:21 GMT -5
Thought the first half was terrible but the game picked up and opened out significantly in the second. Arsenal had the better of the play but United the better of the chances (though Gallas was desperately unlucky with the own goal; if Rooney had actually connected properly it likely wouldn't have gone in).
Can't say I'm unhappy with a point seeing as how on 90 minutes we were losing; thought Ferguson's blustering about the referee afterwards was stupid and showed him up.
I was more miffed after the Liverpool game - we were much the better team in that and should have won.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:48:56 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2008 19:48:56 GMT -5
nice comback today, didn't think you would do it with the slight dip in form it would have been easy for heads to drop.
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Mar 29, 2008 20:10:10 GMT -5
Post by supersonic1983 on Mar 29, 2008 20:10:10 GMT -5
Nice to see Wenger is still making fucking excuses for his players' indiscretions.
'A fraction high', maybe. And about a foot too far to the right, you clown.
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Post by Moorish on Apr 7, 2008 4:44:01 GMT -5
Nice to see Wenger is still making fucking excuses for his players' indiscretions. 'A fraction high', maybe. And about a foot too far to the right, you clown. Wenger has said the red card was warranted. He is merely sticking up for his player (WOW! A manager sticking up fo rhis player!) by saying it was not intentional. Do you think any manager would do otherwise? Did you give Alex McLeish the same stick for not slating Taylor after the Eduardo incident? Jog on.
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Apr 7, 2008 18:32:40 GMT -5
Post by supersonic1983 on Apr 7, 2008 18:32:40 GMT -5
No, I did not, but there's much difference between Diaby's challenge and Taylor's challenge.
Taylor attempted to play the ball, and was beaten simply by the pace of Eduardo. Diaby, on the other hand, made no attempt to play the ball, and instead decided to tackle his opponent's standing leg. Given Arsenal's fucking appalling disciplinary record, I'd suggest there's more to it than unfortunate timing.
Perhaps Arsene Wenger might care to watch the replays in future before he decides to, ahem, 'stick up for his player'.
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Apr 7, 2008 23:03:32 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 7, 2008 23:03:32 GMT -5
It's so frustrating the way we crumbled. To be fair, Man Utd deserve the league. They've been unstoppable. Well, at least Ronaldo has....blimey!
If Chelsea end up as Champions this season, I will NEVER watch the Prem again, bc it will show how meaningless the competition really is -- Chelsea have been shit all season, not even playing well when they win, add to that that they represent everything bad in football - big egos, corrupt owner who tries to manage the team himself, money, etc. I hate Chelsea with a passion. JT, Drogba, Lampard, Cashley are all fuckers. The only player I like on is Joey Cole
However, IF IF IF we beat Man Utd this weekend, we close the gap to 3 pts -- and from there anything could happen.....
AW must regret playing Traore, Hoyte, and Bendnter against Liverpool when he saw Boro hold Utd to a draw. AW wise the fuck up -- you yourself claimed the title challenge wasn't over, yet you rested key players in what was a must win game. WTF ---- We need 5 players for next season:
1.) GK: I don't like Almunia, but it looks like he'll be our #1. We'll still need to buy a GK though for 2nd/3rd choice (depending what AW thinks of Fabianski)
2.) Left Midfielder: Rosicky is always injured, and not good enough when he does play. We DESPERATELY need a goal scoring winger, like Overmars/Pires. Someone with electric pace. Reyes was perfect the few times he was on form. Rosicky, as gifted as he is, is not what we need
3.) Right Midfielder: Hleb has fantastic feet, so keep him, but use him more behind the strikers. Eboue is shit on the right. Like the left hand side, we need a proper winger. Look at Man Utd's success -- all stemming from Ronaldo
4.) Center Defender: Senderos is shaky at best. He's better than Cygan, but not by much. Lacks pace, his passing is also shit, and lacks confidence. We need to buy a stronger back up in this position
5.) Striker: RVP and ADE, cannot carry the team up front by themselves, and seen this season. Walcott is ok, but too young and no where near ready yet. Eduardo is out until mid season, but hasn't looked quality when he had his chances. And Bendnter needs to be sold ASAP, he's a right tosser
Use you're fucking money that you have Wenger, I'm getting sick of this "youth" policy. Where has it gotten us? Trophyless, thats for sure. But also: Traore, Hoyte, Bendnter, Diaby, --- I wouldn't call these "class young players" by any means. We can't rely on just youth. We need to buy quality players for fuck sakes
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Apr 8, 2008 15:48:26 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 8, 2008 15:48:26 GMT -5
That was NEVER a penalty. We got shafted. Over two legs, we were the better team. And lets not forget about the clear penalty we should have had in the first half. Shocking referring in all 3 games, actually. Senderos has proven once again he is pure shit. Sell him right away, AW. He has NEVER looked good enough. Walcott's run though to set up our 2nd was ACE! Breathtaking stuff. Should have resulted in us going through, but for that shocking penalty decision.
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