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Post by matt on Sept 8, 2024 13:18:31 GMT -5
As guitarists go... Strangeboy > Gem
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Post by matt on Sept 7, 2024 16:58:20 GMT -5
Rule 1 - Dave Sardy doesn't produce it. The Dave Sardy mix of Morning Glory on the Goal soundtrack is awesome. It’s much better than the original mix in my opinion, so you never know. Nope not for me. First of all Liams vocals are too low in the mix. Secondly, it's far too clean. Oasis stood apart from all other rock bands because the music was a cacophony of noise. All that crashing reverb and chaos, and Liam singing like he was fighting it and winning. It's raw, reckless and completely unpolished. Owen Morris's production was ideal for them. I don't think Noel fully understood the uniqueness of that sound and subsequent albums sound so tame in comparison. Case in point, listen to his rockers for High Flying Birds, notably the Chasing Yesterday tracks like Lock All The Doors. Regardless of what people think of the actual tune, the recording is bland beyond belief. Another god awful sounding rocker was Freaky Teeth, how he thought that was suitable to release in its snooze inducing form is beyond me. Just imagine how these would have sounded with the Owen Morris treatment. |
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Post by matt on Sept 7, 2024 16:27:47 GMT -5
To be fair, if it's gonna be the standard of Dig Out Your Soul, I'd be disappointed. Leaving aside Falling Down and Shock, nothing stands out. There's a handful of other good tunes, but never has an Oasis album felt so joyless, unmelodic and heavy legged as that one. Yeah but how much is that associating DOYS with a bad era for Oasis overall? Listened to it yesterday, still love the first half. Real shame they sabotaged it… and that’s the correct word: sabotage. Wasn't a bad era for me. I loved that time andbhave great memories of it on a personal level. It was the first time Oasis released an album as a hard-core fan, and any issues the brothers had I brushed off as the norm for Oasis. It's just rather tuneless and lumbering for the most part. |
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Post by matt on Sept 7, 2024 11:38:59 GMT -5
The one thing I dread about a new Oasis album is the hate it's bound to get with certain people no matter how good it is, if it has 2 meh songs and all the rest bangers like DOYS, people will say what a disappointment it is. Or if Noel sings a song on it, they'll hate that. If Liam contributes one tune, they'll hate that. If the track listing isn't in the exact order they think it should be etc etc It's gonna do my head in. To be fair, if it's gonna be the standard of Dig Out Your Soul, I'd be disappointed. Leaving aside Falling Down and Shock, nothing stands out. There's a handful of other good tunes, but never has an Oasis album felt so joyless, unmelodic and heavy legged as that one. |
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Post by matt on Sept 6, 2024 21:18:35 GMT -5
To Be Where There’s Life Ain’t Got Nothin’ The Nature of Reality Soldier On That has to be the worst run of songs for Oasis. They had the tunes too, and sabotaged an album which had much potential. Hard disagree on Soldier On. One of my favorite Liam-written songs from the Oasis years, and a great album closer. And To Be Where There's Life is just fun. Love the live version too. I like Soldier On too, but by then the damage has been done. Would have been a more effective closer- and looked on with more kindness- if it had epic tracks preceding it. |
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Post by matt on Sept 6, 2024 17:17:53 GMT -5
I've always been baffled by the positive feelings around Don't Believe the Truth.Okay, it sold well, albeit not the frantic 6-9 million-copies reports which emerged over the years. Okay, the tour was the most rollicking of the 2000's era, albeit not with a great deal of competition. Okay, it has "The Importance of Being Idle" on it, but does that make up for the filler still clogging up the arteries of the album like so much Beady-Eye cholesterol? I saw the album had a consistency to it which other post-2000 LPs, but it always stood squarely at the base of my rankings, duking it out with Heathen Chemistry as the band's least inspiring effort. Until now! Going back to this album in my post-reunion Oasis binge, the whole thing has finally clicked. Right from those twinkling guitars which open the first track, there's a crisp sense of freedom to this record; a light-hearted motion to it which sounds (for the firsy time post-'98) like the band are having fun being in Oasis. The cheekily retro flourishes which round out "Lyla" and "Let there be Love", the gorgeous piano break which bursts out of "Love Like a Bomb", the winter-wind harmonicas which make "Mucky Fingers" feel so fresh - even the fleet-footed rhythm which now seems so familiar from the High Flying Birds is a delight to hear from Oasis on "Part of the Queue". There's little that sounds laboured; the sense of a band struggling under the boulder of their own expectations, which characterises Standing on the Shoulders of Giants and Heathen Chemistry, is not here. Thank God! What stands out to me now is that Don't Believe the Truth is something of a pre-debut. It's the birth-before-the-birth of the more romantic, freewheeling melodic style which Noel would use for his solo career; he's finally found a new way of writing here, a second wind of his own talent which can carries him to perhaps his highest point since the glory years ("I sold my soul for the second time..."). Something else quite magical happens, though, more than Noel just finding his flow; somehow, after a decade as a millionaire, he manages to re-connect with the working-class spirit of his best work. The magic of Oasis, as matt said, was their ability to capture the core, tainted emotions of everyday life and combine them into something euphoric. Noel lost that after Morning Glory (even Be Here Now is noticeably the plainer work of a millionaire in celebration), but somehow, he finds it again here. His tracks for this album have all the heart-aching, sunlight-in-the-rain spirit which made his songs so special in the first place. Combine that with Liam hitting his stride in his own right, and even the other members bringing memorable tunes to the party, and you get the strongest case for Oasis ever being a democracy. Of course, there are issues. "Mucky Fingers" is a touch too slow and a touch too long. "Lyla" needs trimming in the first two choruses, to stop it clubbing you over the head with that hook. "Let there be Love" is in desperate need of a kick in energy. And both "The Meaning of Soul" and "A Bell Will Ring" are, to be kind, natural-born b-sides which should have been booted for stronger material like "Pass Me Down the Wine" or "Who Put the Weight of the World on my Shoulders?". So, this is the version of the album I put together for my own enjoyment:   I must say, one of my favourite tracklist nonsenses I've ever done is adding two interludes of "Can You See it Now??". It fits beautifully, and creates such a cohesive feel when the liberating guitar riff returns for the second interlude, but this time with Noel's vocals calling out over it. "Pass Me Down the Wine" is a perfectly sun-splashed tune, again showing Liam at the peak of his powers, while "Weight of the World" gives the album an emotional weight towards the end. Some people will look out for "Eyeball Tickler", but while I do enjoy that tune, it feels too harsh for such a feel-good record as this - plus, I've had a sudden and inexplicable change of heart on "Mucky Fingers", so that's going nowhere! With these changes, Don't Believe the Truth is consistent, fun, and varied. Overall then, yeah, this album has resurrected from the dead in my estimation. Far from battling for being the worst of Oasis, it's now possibly the post-nineties work to give me the most enjoyment. Despite the flaws, it has the core DNA of what you want from a Gallagher album by 2005; a freshly-inspired guitar-pop record which comes with some attitude, some fun, some hits, and some variety. It's undoubtedly a minor work in their catalogue, but as a slice of later-Oasis, this album will now become my go-to for something outside the masterpieces they made in their prime. Can y'see it now?? I can see it now!! I think having all that being said DBTT ends up right where it always was, it’s a lot better than HC but doesn’t have the sonic highs of SOTSOG or the song highs of SOTSOG and DOYS. There are a ton of flaws with DBTT. Some odd production choices, especially with Liam vocals on songs like Love Like A Bomb, The Meaning of Soul and Keep The Dream Alive. Album had a Frankenstein feels because of the 3-4 times it was recorded and then Noel adding last minute songs to give the album commercial appeal in Lyla and Idle. The sad part is no post 2000 Oasis album is anywhere near their glory days and the amount of filler that made the LPs is shocking especially with rock solid songs being wasted as b-sides when at this point in the Oasis story they needed the best player on the pitch. I’ll give DBTT this distinction, the vibes around the band and reviews were really really strong. It was cool to like Oasis again after an awkward 2000-2002 period of backlash. I think the millennials who missed out on the 90s came of an age that coincided with the album release. So that stuck it to the critics who thought they were just a one off fad. Similar to the Gen Z fans who have come round for this reunion, it suggests that the people and generations will dictate Oasis legacy, not the critics. |
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Post by matt on Sept 6, 2024 16:25:04 GMT -5
Great read The Escapist! I had a similar transformation of opinion about the album earlier this year. I also think your tracklist is, for what its worth, the best possible version of the album out there. It doesn't change the feel and pacing of the album and only adds to it. If there's any criticism it is the album could do with a bit more emotional weight, so adding Who Put The Weight... on there ticks that box. The album has a lightness of touch to it, and its not lumbered by bland stodgy mid tempo rockers. A lot of that has to do with Liam's songwriting contributions to the album. While I don't think it has the ultimate highs of albums either side of them (love Stop Crying, Shock and Falling Down for example), neither does it plummet the depths like those albums. It is by far the most consistent and enjoyable of the post-90s albums. |
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Post by matt on Sept 6, 2024 15:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Sept 6, 2024 15:12:14 GMT -5
I’ve written on here a few times about this but the songwriting democracy was one of the worst artistic decisions I’ve ever witnessed in any band. In some bands it works a treat but Oasis were never one of those bands. ‘All Songs Written by Noel Gallagher’ that is what made Oasis the biggest band in the world. Then Noel gets lazy decides he only wants to write half an album every three years and lets three other people do the other half! If they had brought truly outstanding songs to the table I’d be all for it. But they were given 5 or 6 songs per album regardless of quality, it was just the done thing by that point. Noel cannot have heard The Nature of Reality, A Bell Will a Ring or Better Man for example and thought, ‘fuck yeah! That has to go on the record!’ Instead it was ‘ah ok well you guys have to have at least one song because of ummm because so what’s your best one? Oh really? Well that’ll do then I suppose’ In short, any new Oasis album has to be Noel written, Liam sung with Noel singing two max Seems he got the bug for singing and being the frontman from Heathen Chemistry onwards. Hard not to think that the solo act was an itch he was dying to scratch going back to 2002. You'd hope that, if Oasis were to make new music, that impulse would have been satisfied and he'd go back to how it was before. Also scrutiny on new Oasis album would be so much greater than anything they've done in years, so you'd hope common sense would prevail. |
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Post by matt on Sept 5, 2024 18:46:08 GMT -5
Okay. Hear me out. The band comes on and play Snakebite as the intro before launching into Hello/Acquiesce Wow, I forgot about this one. Must be years since I last listened to it. Nothing beats Fuckin In The Bushes intro as its become the thing to gee everyone up. But wouldn't it be great for them to revisit this in some capacity. Maybe add lyrics to it. Got the spiky punk edge to it that would fit nicely with Headshrinker, Bring It On Down and Shock of the Lightning. |
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Post by matt on Sept 5, 2024 9:04:37 GMT -5
Absolutely agree with the PR just focusing on Noel and Liam. Just the pair of them together is such a powerful statement, always the focal point, and getting others on board dilutes that effect.
They ARE Oasis, let's not pretend otherwise. Bonehead, as much as I love him and so enthused to hopefully have him back, and whoever your next favourite member is, were always supporting cast members.
A full band photo just wouldn't work. The headlines would be distracted by 'OASIS REUNITE!!!!.... but who the fuck are those guys?'. It would have spoilt the party.
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Post by matt on Sept 4, 2024 18:12:37 GMT -5
What's incredible is the huge leaps Oasis have taken on Spotify.
Over a week ago, they were hovering around U2 at 350 odd on the 'most followed' acts, they are now up to 154, adding approximately 10 million new listeners up to 30 million listeners.
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Post by matt on Sept 4, 2024 17:52:46 GMT -5
 What in the f*ckety f*ck is he wearing? Cancel the reunion and make that 116 charges. Im a City fan of 21yrs and even i dont particularly like that….. He's literally wearing a yoga mat. |
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Post by matt on Sept 4, 2024 17:34:19 GMT -5
What's most impressive is Live Forever being highest up there. Would have bet on it being Wonderwall, the obvious and boring choice, but good going for probably the song that represents Oasis best.
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Post by matt on Sept 4, 2024 17:32:05 GMT -5
What in the f*ckety f*ck is he wearing? Cancel the reunion and make that 116 charges. |
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Post by matt on Sept 4, 2024 14:56:48 GMT -5
Will these two extra show have dynamic pricing? No answers to this is I see.
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Post by matt on Sept 4, 2024 14:55:17 GMT -5
100% agree, they are not blameless by far They arent blameless, but I do think theyve gotten a bit too much shit for it. Another act known for working class values who had this issue was Springsteen. And he actually endorsed the damn thing, yet from what i recall noone gave him any criticism at all. Oh he definitely received flak from the fanbase who wouldn't let it lie. I saw him in May a year later and there was no dynamic pricing then. But a fanzine closed down over it. I think that was the first time it was in use, or at least it was a novelty. I thought the bad PR that came of that would have informed Ticketmaster, Ignition and Oasis. Apparently not, they were fully aware of what would happen which is why I don't expect any answers to this. |
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Post by matt on Sept 3, 2024 14:36:35 GMT -5
If Ignition and the band were smart, they'd film a documentary about the reunion. Or provide other forms of content. They did it for Lord Don't Slow Me Down, no reason if they're getting on okay.
They are primed to give more content. The audience is clearly there. You wonder how much this 'brat' iconography is benefiting them and the younger images of Noel and Liam doing the rounds because here are the original authentic brats, not some corporate contrived image (*cough* Charlie XCX *cough*). So their popularity ain't some U2 gimmick of trying to force relevance down your throat when popularity is waning, the market is there.
But somehow I suspect that Marcus Russell and co are happy to just take the money and run rather than bolster the legacy for future generations. This is Ignition, the most backward case study in popular music management in history.
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Post by matt on Sept 3, 2024 13:18:42 GMT -5
Nick McCabe. A waste of talent seemingly doing nothing at the moment.
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Post by matt on Sept 3, 2024 13:16:39 GMT -5
A little bump of this post. What do people on This forum think of James Hargreaves Guitar channel ?, Personally I really enjoy alot of his history of bands (I have been watching a few this week, the one on Oasis before Noel was very interesting) and album theories. I have also been catching up with the Oasis Podcast too, good stuff. His theories are nonsense. Noels lyrics don't open themselves up to interpretation and there's no need to pseudo-intellectualise them. His knowledge of the band however is second to none, I'll give him respect for that and he quite clearly builds his audience from that knowledge. He's certainly no grifter when it comes to this. For the love of God though, don't listen to his own music. |
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Post by matt on Sept 3, 2024 10:36:06 GMT -5
F*ck Marcus Russell.
F*ck Ticketmaster.
And f*ck the Gallaghers for staying silent.
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Post by matt on Sept 2, 2024 17:20:49 GMT -5
They make origin stories of everything these days. What next? The Making of Tupperware, starring Cate Blanchett? |
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Post by matt on Sept 2, 2024 15:12:18 GMT -5
Yeah, so this ain't going away. And nor should it. So let us hardcore fans have the final say. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74jdxle935oJust wanted to start a new thread to hear others opinions clearly on this. Because it is quite frankly damaging the reputation of the band. What should have been a victory lap and securing the band's legacy for future generations is turning into a quite shameful greedy money making exercise. The Gallaghers need to say something, and their greedy incompetent management spearheaded by, once again, Marcus Russell (for more self serving, greedy accounts of Ignition, read The Creation Records Story by David Cavanagh). The choice is to boost your legacy or boost your already bank balance that regardless would have looked very healthy without this nonsense (they quite simply could have had both if it weren't for 'dynamic pricing'). Do the rock n roll thing and come out against it for once. |
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Post by matt on Sept 2, 2024 10:19:41 GMT -5
Liam is in France with his family. Noel said in the last Matt Morgan´s Podcast he was going to travel to the south of france shortly.... Maybe ALL the family is spending some vacation together?!? Apparently Noel is joining Liam, Peggy, Debbie and Buttons in the South of France. One big happy family until Liam leaves big skidmarks on the toilet before Noel uses it. Reunion cancelled. |
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Post by matt on Sept 2, 2024 8:43:42 GMT -5
It is quite likely that Mark Coyle still has drawers full of pre-1996 Oasis cassettes. Rough demos, soundchecks, whatever. Just give us a couple of hidden gems. I don’t think there’ll be demos for the morning glory tracks but there might be hotel room recordings or sound checks of Noel with an acoustic. But failing that I would love Noel’s guide tracks. He played and sang the whole album on acoustic guitar first. Give us that! Give us Noel and Coyles House music recordings. |
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