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Post by wildliam on Aug 31, 2024 17:18:12 GMT -5
Could be a good idea to create a section on this forum for ticket exchange? (Always face value) Yes please! Hoping to trade my GA Wembley night one for a seat! Damn if I would knew this, I would bought this seat ticket in my cart that I let to don't buy something I didn't want. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 31, 2024 17:25:19 GMT -5
Let's put it this way: I'm more glad when artists themselves intervene than angry when they don't It's not their job, that's what management and booking agencies are for, and I'm pretty sure 99% of the time they're not even aware of what goes on I'm not sure if they could opt out, some people said other bands did so maybe yes? But then you could argue without dynamic pricing person number 374838 in the queue would have found the gig to be sold out already It's capitalism at its shittiest, but to be honest standard prices already are, I don't think we can go back here id say in this specific instance its not a naive band that doesn't know what's going on im sure both Liams and noels mgt individually and Liam and noel personally are fully up on every part single part of every deal thats being signed for this reunion. That argument off if the 374838 be sold out hold no water as surely the aim is to sell out the gig. The gig sold out so they dont go thats just luck. But if dynamic pricing allows them to get ticket as others can't afford it and if thats ok then surely touting is ok. If a tout doesn't sell that ticket then that person doest go also ? Which is what the whole twickets thing is trying to stop which oasis been massively pushing If you want capitalism you have a back standing at 150 for 1/2 the gig and standing at 350 for the front half. They do front and back sections in different countries. But advertise it like that open and honestly then people can complain or not be able to afford a ticket but they know where they stand vs sat in a queue for hours on end to be given a made up price which they then cant afford I'm not sure mate, I think they're aware of what they're getting but leave the specifics to their people, now if their managements could've stopped this Idk What I meant with the arguement is that THEIR arguement would be "we know someone will buy these even if they're not cheap because the demand is there and there will be someone who's both desperate and has enough money in this long ass queue". I agree it's a terrible rule and ALSO that people should be made aware of it beforehand |
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 17:25:50 GMT -5
Well dynamic pricing is a way of life in the US so frankly if it surprised you, you’re lucky. You try to buy tickets here and TM has the dynamic pricing on the second the tickets go on sale. It’s the reason I’ve never had good seats for Noel in the US they’re 350-500 each. Looked at tickets for Billy Joel and McCartney for parents at stadiums 500$ to get in the door. So I agree it completely sucks but blaming the band for it is out of line imo. Only bands I’ve seen get around it are the cure and Foos. Oasis had a ballot which was an amazing chance to beat the crowd and it was only probably the last 10% of tickets that got jacked up. ——Reminder about 10 days ago Oasis didn’t even exist! I’m sure we’ll see a ton of fan resale over the next year. its not the norm here is the point and having an act and gigs this size doing it is just enabling it to happen more. Obv famously you have to tip in the u.s cos thats people wages which again just enables companies not to pay correct wages where rest of world or lets say in uk we do so a tip is a bonus for got serviice not how someone pays their rent.. I know thats a stretch but its just cos it happens and been accepted for the u.s doesn't mean it should happen in uk and I personally thought oasis would be completely against especially with all the reseller talk but obv not |
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Post by scorpiosonic on Aug 31, 2024 17:26:45 GMT -5
disgrace
it's a strong word but it's the right one, alas
people think the working folk don't have honour and class
but actually chasing material worth is often where it's truly lost
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Post by mad4it1982 on Aug 31, 2024 17:27:10 GMT -5
I'm still in the queue been over 15hrs. Just another 763,976 to go. I think I may have a chance😆 I'm still getting out the car park at Knebworth! Holly hell that was so bad. Took about 3 hrs to walk to the station. |
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Post by shannee on Aug 31, 2024 17:30:34 GMT -5
Well dynamic pricing is a way of life in the US so frankly if it surprised you, you’re lucky. You try to buy tickets here and TM has the dynamic pricing on the second the tickets go on sale. It’s the reason I’ve never had good seats for Noel in the US they’re 350-500 each. Looked at tickets for Billy Joel and McCartney for parents at stadiums 500$ to get in the door. So I agree it completely sucks but blaming the band for it is out of line imo. Only bands I’ve seen get around it are the cure and Foos. Oasis had a ballot which was an amazing chance to beat the crowd and it was only probably the last 10% of tickets that got jacked up. ——Reminder about 10 days ago Oasis didn’t even exist! I’m sure we’ll see a ton of fan resale over the next year. its not the norm here is the point and having an act and gigs this size doing it is just enabling it to happen more. Obv famously you have to tip in the u.s cos thats people wages which again just enables companies not to pay correct wages where rest of world or lets say in uk we do so a tip is a bonus for got serviice not how someone pays their rent.. I know thats a stretch but its just cos it happens and been accepted for the u.s doesn't mean it should happen in uk and I personally thought oasis would be completely against especially with all the reseller talk but obv not I agree with you and am well aware of the shitty norms we have here in the US. My point is the issue lies with TM becoming a world wide monopoly not the band |
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Post by scorpiosonic on Aug 31, 2024 17:31:56 GMT -5
i'm going to write a song that connects to your heart and is the only melody and lyric you've ever heard that can speak to you this way, and no other man woman or experience on earth will ever compare
and then 20 years later I'm going to rinse you for so much more money, for the pleasure of hearing it again, because i can - and because i know you're attached. i won't say sorry if that sucks for you, as I'll be watching the footy in the executive box, ta-ta
that's the message i feel like I'm getting from noel, 20 years on
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 17:34:53 GMT -5
id say in this specific instance its not a naive band that doesn't know what's going on im sure both Liams and noels mgt individually and Liam and noel personally are fully up on every part single part of every deal thats being signed for this reunion. That argument off if the 374838 be sold out hold no water as surely the aim is to sell out the gig. The gig sold out so they dont go thats just luck. But if dynamic pricing allows them to get ticket as others can't afford it and if thats ok then surely touting is ok. If a tout doesn't sell that ticket then that person doest go also ? Which is what the whole twickets thing is trying to stop which oasis been massively pushing If you want capitalism you have a back standing at 150 for 1/2 the gig and standing at 350 for the front half. They do front and back sections in different countries. But advertise it like that open and honestly then people can complain or not be able to afford a ticket but they know where they stand vs sat in a queue for hours on end to be given a made up price which they then cant afford I'm not sure mate, I think they're aware of what they're getting but leave the specifics to their people, now if their managements could've stopped this Idk What I meant with the arguement is that THEIR arguement would be "we know someone will buy these even if they're not cheap because the demand is there and there will be someone who's both desperate and has enough money in this long ass queue". I agree it's a terrible rule and ALSO that people should be made aware of it beforehand their argument is not an argument at all thats just touting / taking advantage of people |
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Post by NicOasis on Aug 31, 2024 17:35:55 GMT -5
 Don't look back in anger |
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 17:37:04 GMT -5
Don't look back in anger that was the tweet of the day for me epic work  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 31, 2024 17:41:13 GMT -5
I'm not sure mate, I think they're aware of what they're getting but leave the specifics to their people, now if their managements could've stopped this Idk What I meant with the arguement is that THEIR arguement would be "we know someone will buy these even if they're not cheap because the demand is there and there will be someone who's both desperate and has enough money in this long ass queue". I agree it's a terrible rule and ALSO that people should be made aware of it beforehand their argument is not an argument at all thats just touting / taking advantage of people That's capitalism for you  |
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 17:43:08 GMT -5
its not the norm here is the point and having an act and gigs this size doing it is just enabling it to happen more. Obv famously you have to tip in the u.s cos thats people wages which again just enables companies not to pay correct wages where rest of world or lets say in uk we do so a tip is a bonus for got serviice not how someone pays their rent.. I know thats a stretch but its just cos it happens and been accepted for the u.s doesn't mean it should happen in uk and I personally thought oasis would be completely against especially with all the reseller talk but obv not I agree with you and am well aware of the shitty norms we have here in the US. My point is the issue lies with TM becoming a world wide monopoly not the band but they dont do it all over the world as defmaybe00 said doesn't happen in Italy and doesn't happen here that often so cant believe its 100% Ticketmaster made it happen personally but who knows |
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 17:44:53 GMT -5
their argument is not an argument at all thats just touting / taking advantage of people That's capitalism for you well when you put it like that all good in the world. As you were |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 31, 2024 17:57:37 GMT -5
I agree with you and am well aware of the shitty norms we have here in the US. My point is the issue lies with TM becoming a world wide monopoly not the band but they dont do it all over the world as defmaybe00 said doesn't happen in Italy and doesn't happen here that often so cant believe its 100% Ticketmaster made it happen personally but who knows To be fair, Ticketmaster just ain't the *main* thing here, Ticketone is the national seller usually (and they're scammers in their own way, but nevermind) I'm not sure if other services will adopt the same system, I hope not |
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 18:06:46 GMT -5
but they dont do it all over the world as defmaybe00 said doesn't happen in Italy and doesn't happen here that often so cant believe its 100% Ticketmaster made it happen personally but who knows To be fair, Ticketmaster just ain't the *main* thing here, Ticketone is the national seller usually (and they're scammers in their own way, but nevermind) I'm not sure if other services will adopt the same system, I hope not if they do its just capitalism so you'll accept it and justify it making up arguments for 'their' potential opinions on the matter so I wouldn't worry about it |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 31, 2024 18:27:49 GMT -5
To be fair, Ticketmaster just ain't the *main* thing here, Ticketone is the national seller usually (and they're scammers in their own way, but nevermind) I'm not sure if other services will adopt the same system, I hope not if they do its just capitalism so you'll accept it and justify it making up arguments for 'their' potential opinions on the matter so I wouldn't worry about it I don't think I was ever justifying it, I'm sorry if it came out like that, I was just trying to explain the thinking behind it and how it's becoming Ticketmaster standard as the idea's spreading from the US |
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Post by andymorris on Aug 31, 2024 18:31:25 GMT -5
If only Liam and Noel werent that small, i would have considered far Away tickets
But they’re So, So small
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Post by shannee on Aug 31, 2024 18:43:45 GMT -5
I agree with you and am well aware of the shitty norms we have here in the US. My point is the issue lies with TM becoming a world wide monopoly not the band but they dont do it all over the world as defmaybe00 said doesn't happen in Italy and doesn't happen here that often so cant believe its 100% Ticketmaster made it happen personally but who knows It most definitely is TM who jacks up the price and my understanding is they keep that extra profit. They have a whole algorithm built to extort customers. In the US we also pay an additional 20-40% in TM fees. It’s a racket. The only thing to do is get on your government about it. These fucking huge corporations always let the artist take the fall and walk away not giving a shit about our complaints. |
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Post by Sadie on Aug 31, 2024 18:49:58 GMT -5
All I know is that in Italy there's legislation to stop this kind of stuff happening whereas in the US and UK there's nothing, and of course these companies are never gonna act morally if they're not forced to by law
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 18:55:10 GMT -5
if they do its just capitalism so you'll accept it and justify it making up arguments for 'their' potential opinions on the matter so I wouldn't worry about it I don't think I was ever justifying it, I'm sorry if it came out like that, I was just trying to explain the thinking behind it and how it's becoming Ticketmaster standard as the idea's spreading from the US Thanks for girlsplaining the world to me but I did just about understand before hand thats not my point Im just very dissapointed with oasis especially in the last few days pushes twickets so much and being anti touting to allow this to happen. This isnt what id have expected from them whether its forced upon them (which I cant believe for a second they couldn't have dictated any term for this come back tour) and mainly the way it was executed towards end to take advantage of the stragglers wanting tickets. Im sure someone could've said actually mate todays been a shit show they've been in that queue, the whole of social media taking the piss out of how shit show ticket master been.. what what you doing now... dont click that button to rinse them an extra 200 when then get through.. oh mate capitalism |
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 18:57:53 GMT -5
but they dont do it all over the world as defmaybe00 said doesn't happen in Italy and doesn't happen here that often so cant believe its 100% Ticketmaster made it happen personally but who knows It most definitely is TM who jacks up the price and my understanding is they keep that extra profit. They have a whole algorithm built to extort customers. In the US we also pay an additional 20-40% in TM fees. It’s a racket. The only thing to do is get on your government about it. These fucking huge corporations always let the artist take the fall and walk away not giving a shit about our complaints. so why dont they do it for every gig here even if they raise the price by £2-3 every gig cos of demand, if its what they do they'd do it every single artist on that website but they dont .. why not? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 31, 2024 19:07:12 GMT -5
I don't think I was ever justifying it, I'm sorry if it came out like that, I was just trying to explain the thinking behind it and how it's becoming Ticketmaster standard as the idea's spreading from the US Thanks for girlsplaining the world to me but I did just about understand before hand thats not my point Im just very dissapointed with oasis especially in the last few days pushes twickets so much and being anti touting to allow this to happen. This isnt what id have expected from them whether its forced upon them (which I cant believe for a second they couldn't have dictated any term for this come back tour) and mainly the way it was executed towards end to take advantage of the stragglers wanting tickets. Im sure someone could've said actually mate todays been a shit show they've been in that queue, the whole of social media taking the piss out of how shit show ticket master been.. what what you doing now... dont click that button to rinse them an extra 200 when then get through.. oh mate capitalism Ah man come on if that was girlsplaining, I was just having a normal converstation, I think I've said enough times it's shitty behaviour that exploits both people's emotions and attachment and their wallets (that's what I meant when I said that's capitalism, I wasn’t justifying it I think it ain't working when their putting people in a position where they either choose to live a miserable life or grudgingly accept their ways) I'm just not sure Oasis have anything to do with it when it's something Tickemaster's been implementing for a while, which was my original point |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Aug 31, 2024 19:11:31 GMT -5
It most definitely is TM who jacks up the price and my understanding is they keep that extra profit. They have a whole algorithm built to extort customers. In the US we also pay an additional 20-40% in TM fees. It’s a racket. The only thing to do is get on your government about it. These fucking huge corporations always let the artist take the fall and walk away not giving a shit about our complaints. so why dont they do it for every gig here even if they raise the price by £2-3 every gig cos of demand, if its what they do they'd do it every single artist on that website but they dont .. why not? Because it's rare that the demand's that high I reckon If there's 1 million people in the queue they must've done the maths and realised enough of those will be willing to spend that kind of money If you do it for "normal" artists you may struggle to sell out gigs and if you do it by just 2-3 pounds it may not be worth the risk in terms of backlash and public perception? |
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 31, 2024 19:15:32 GMT -5
so why dont they do it for every gig here even if they raise the price by £2-3 every gig cos of demand, if its what they do they'd do it every single artist on that website but they dont .. why not? Because it's rare that the demand's that high I reckon If there's 1 million people in the queue they must've done the maths and realised enough of those will be willing to spend that kind of money If you do it for "normal" artists you may struggle to sell out gigs and if you do it by just 2-3 pounds it may not be worth the risk in terms of backlash and public perception? so why didnt they raise they prices at the start and make even more money they saw the server load from probs 8.30am and by 9 had those million so why not do it then if its just common practice to do? |
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Post by marqueemoon on Aug 31, 2024 19:18:30 GMT -5
Anyone know if it’s possible to get a notification for specific shows from Twickets?
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