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Post by cloudburster on Aug 30, 2024 17:55:50 GMT -5
They’ve sold more records than you think in America … Jeff slate of sirious fm stated yesterday they’ve now been declared as selling over 41 million records alone in the states .. the myth they didn’t achieve is exactly that Is that a typo? Do you mean 4.1 million? My quick math was DM sold a million, MG over 3 million and BHN a million. The rest of the catalog sold like 400,000 combined. Morning Glory is 4 × Platinum right? 4 million+ |
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Post by alex75 on Aug 30, 2024 17:59:31 GMT -5
I'm not ready if this is real. Oasis in Toronto and US stadium tour. Found it on twitter yesterday and the dates line up so maybe there's more to be announced. Fingers crossed   The MetLife Stadium is 80,000, no way are they playing there Sure? Why not In 2005 the sell out the Madison garden, now there id the Réunion hype |
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 30, 2024 18:04:38 GMT -5
The MetLife Stadium is 80,000, no way are they playing there Sure? Why not In 2005 the sell out the Madison garden, now there id the Réunion hype Maybe. They've never headlined a stadium in the US. I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Post by marqueemoon on Aug 30, 2024 19:28:46 GMT -5
Sure? Why not In 2005 the sell out the Madison garden, now there id the Réunion hype Maybe. They've never headlined a stadium in the US. I'll believe it when I see it. If you book them… they will come |
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Post by vespa on Aug 30, 2024 19:34:40 GMT -5
Morning glory sold that in 1995/6 within about 6 months over there .. oasis sales are massively outdated look at morning glory in uk, it’s been in charts last 7 years but its sales never seem to shift and other albums off the chart seem to sell more.. the music press don’t want oasis at the forefront .. Jeff slate from Sirius radio stated they’d sold that many units in America , don’t forget unit sales aren’t just albums , wonderwall was a single there .. they can sell out the right tour here if pushed correctly quote author=" cloudburster" source="/post/1761189/thread" timestamp="1725058550"] Is that a typo? Do you mean 4.1 million? My quick math was DM sold a million, MG over 3 million and BHN a million. The rest of the catalog sold like 400,000 combined. Morning Glory is 4 × Platinum right? 4 million+ [/quote] |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Aug 31, 2024 3:59:22 GMT -5
I can't imagine them filling Eden Park once in NZ nevermind twice.
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Post by megyesitomate on Aug 31, 2024 3:59:51 GMT -5
Right, time to save up for some plane tix for New York.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 31, 2024 4:34:17 GMT -5
Someone in management must have strong US connections with the way the US media has responded.
As I said earlier in this thread - management research must (somehow) indicate strong US interest and sales. There’d be no point, otherwise….. I feel like the lads have strong promoters this time.
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Post by forestfan on Aug 31, 2024 11:08:09 GMT -5
I can't imagine them filling Eden Park once in NZ nevermind twice. Oh ye of little faith But I do feel the tour dates there are BS As if no Sydney and Melbourne |
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Post by bhnausnz on Aug 31, 2024 15:16:14 GMT -5
I can't imagine them filling Eden Park once in NZ nevermind twice. To add NZ crowds are all awful bogans who like crap such as the foo fighters. They’ll only know 2 songs. There’ll be a few hardcore fans but they’ll be drowned out by a chorus of, “which one’s Liam?” They never recovered here after the 1998 tour They seem way bigger in Australia these days |
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Post by bolco on Aug 31, 2024 15:32:29 GMT -5
We want more stadiums dates all over the world
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 31, 2024 15:47:45 GMT -5
Morning glory sold that in 1995/6 within about 6 months over there .. oasis sales are massively outdated look at morning glory in uk, it’s been in charts last 7 years but its sales never seem to shift and other albums off the chart seem to sell more.. the music press don’t want oasis at the forefront .. Jeff slate from Sirius radio stated they’d sold that many units in America , don’t forget unit sales aren’t just albums , wonderwall was a single there .. they can sell out the right tour here if pushed correctly quote author=" cloudburster" source="/post/1761189/thread" timestamp="1725058550"] Is that a typo? Do you mean 4.1 million? My quick math was DM sold a million, MG over 3 million and BHN a million. The rest of the catalog sold like 400,000 combined. Morning Glory is 4 × Platinum right? 4 million+ [/quote] Yes i think i once read in some Billboard stats that its toward 4.5M in the US. |
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Post by bolco on Aug 31, 2024 16:07:03 GMT -5
What’s The Story? A Look At Oasis’ Touring History
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What’s The Story? A Look At Oasis’ Touring History
It’s been 15 years since the famous backstage dust-up at Rock en Seine finally shattered the uneasy, contentious relationship between rock’s most famously belligerent brothers, Liam and Noel Gallagher. Oasis, it seemed on that hot August night outside Paris, was forever finished.
But the Gallaghers, with the passage of time, have come to some kind of understanding and made enough peace to announce what is now a 17-show stadium tour of the U.K. and Ireland for 2025 with plans allegedly in the works for a longer tour that will take them around the world.
The Oasis reunion shows will be promoted globally by Arthur Fogel and Denis Desmond for Live Nation, and UK promoter SJM Concert’s Managing Director Simon Moran. As chairman of Live Nation Global Touring, Fogel has helmed many global blockbusters, including serving as Live Nation’s worldwide promoter for U2, Madonna, Beyonce and Lady Gaga, among others. Fogel also helmed the hugely successful Police reunion tour for Live Nation in 2007—2008 that grossed $352 million from 140 shows, according to Pollstar Boxoffice reports.
In many ways, the routing parallels Oasis’ last proper tour in 2009, which squeezed in headlining shows around festival appearances. They’ll again play Heaton Park in their hometown of Manchester where, in 2009, the first night of a three-night stand at Heaton Park — the largest municipal park in Europe — was delayed multiple times due to electrical problems and eventually declared a free show. Those shows drew 70,000 each night, according to contemporaneous local news reports. Manchester’s night mayor announced the capacity for the 2025 run will be 80,000.
That capacity matches with the most recent reported total for an Oasis show in the Pollstar Boxoffice: 80,241 tickets for a gross of $8.12 million at Slane Castle in Dublin June 20, 2009. Oasis led a bill that included The Prodigy, Kasabian, Glasvegas and The Blizzards.
Shows at Murrayfield in Edinburgh, Principality Stadium in Cardiff (then known as Millennium Stadium) and a run at Wembley Stadium were not reported. All are included with Heaton Park on the latest routing, as is Croke Park in Dublin.
Those looking for hints at the potential for success outside the UK and Ireland can look to an early set of South American shows in 2009. Though largely in arenas — many of which were under 10,000-cap — the band did play a few stadiums. Oasis drew 36,216 to Estadio Monumental — better known as River Plate Stadium — in Buenos Aires, Argentina, May 3, 2009, grossing $1.4 million. That followed an April 30 show at the National Stadium in Lima, Peru, which grossed $1.6 million on 41,729 tickets, according to Pollstar Boxoffice reports.
The band toured the U.S. arenas the year before, selling out Madison Square Garden for a $777,050 gross on 15,200 tickets.
It’s most successful American tour was likely 2005’s “Don’t Believe The Truth Tour,” which included a 19,900-ticket sellout at the Xfinity Center in Mansfield, Massachusetts — that’s the highest-reported ticket total for an American Oasis show — on June 24, grossing $502,942; that’s a now-quaint average price of $26. The band had a near sell-out of the Hollywood Bowl that year as well, grossing $846,688 on 16,574 tickets; that’s the band highest reported gross stateside.
All told, Oasis has sold 959,791 tickets on 105 headline reports submitted to the Pollstar Boxoffice (noting, of course, the stadium shows from 2009 went unreported), grossing more than $46 million.
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Post by blurareshit on Aug 31, 2024 19:42:21 GMT -5
Those looking for hints at the potential for success outside the UK and Ireland can look to an early set of South American shows in 2009. Though largely in arenas — many of which were under 10,000-cap — the band did play a few stadiums. Oasis drew 36,216 to Estadio Monumental — better known as River Plate Stadium — in Buenos Aires, Argentina, May 3, 2009, grossing $1.4 million. That followed an April 30 show at the National Stadium in Lima, Peru, which grossed $1.6 million on 41,729 tickets, according to Pollstar Boxoffice reports. The band toured the U.S. arenas the year before, selling out Madison Square Garden for a $777,050 gross on 15,200 tickets. It’s most successful American tour was likely 2005’s “Don’t Believe The Truth Tour,” which included a 19,900-ticket sellout at the Xfinity Center in Mansfield, Massachusetts — that’s the highest-reported ticket total for an American Oasis show — on June 24, grossing $502,942; that’s a now-quaint average price of $26. The band had a near sell-out of the Hollywood Bowl that year as well, grossing $846,688 on 16,574 tickets; that’s the band highest reported gross stateside. This is pretty telling. I would say Oasis pure drawing power by themselves, regardless, in any US market is probably roughly equivalent to whatever sized crowd they drew in 2005 (which was a bit of an anomaly for them - far more successful than 2002 or 2008). Given that those 4 supposed cities listed (Chicago, NYC, Boston, LA), I'd add the 2005 attendance x current day factors: +40% increase for bonus reunion hype +40% increase for scarcity/diehard fans traveling from around the region +30% increase for fans coming from abroad +30% increase for people who were like Oasis well enough but were swayed to atten by whomever the opener is. +20% increase for new, young fans gained since the split (they exist surely, but nowhere even remotely in the same ballpark as the UK) AKA ~160% 2005 attendance I'll do a 10ish% margin of error, and I'd probably boost NYC by about 5k-6k bc of population size and ease of travel from England and LA about 4k-5k bc of population size/proximity to Asia. And maybe boost Chicago by 4k or so b/c it's the only midwest date and then ding Boston by 1k slightly because of the relative proximity of NYC. My rough estimate the ceiling for Oasis attendance at shows in the US 2025 is: - Chicago (23,000 - 27,000) - New York (32,000 - 39,000) - Boston (27,000 - 33,000) - Los Angeles (31,000 - 37,000) |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 31, 2024 21:59:23 GMT -5
Those looking for hints at the potential for success outside the UK and Ireland can look to an early set of South American shows in 2009. Though largely in arenas — many of which were under 10,000-cap — the band did play a few stadiums. Oasis drew 36,216 to Estadio Monumental — better known as River Plate Stadium — in Buenos Aires, Argentina, May 3, 2009, grossing $1.4 million. That followed an April 30 show at the National Stadium in Lima, Peru, which grossed $1.6 million on 41,729 tickets, according to Pollstar Boxoffice reports. The band toured the U.S. arenas the year before, selling out Madison Square Garden for a $777,050 gross on 15,200 tickets. It’s most successful American tour was likely 2005’s “Don’t Believe The Truth Tour,” which included a 19,900-ticket sellout at the Xfinity Center in Mansfield, Massachusetts — that’s the highest-reported ticket total for an American Oasis show — on June 24, grossing $502,942; that’s a now-quaint average price of $26. The band had a near sell-out of the Hollywood Bowl that year as well, grossing $846,688 on 16,574 tickets; that’s the band highest reported gross stateside. This is pretty telling. I would say Oasis pure drawing power by themselves, regardless, in any US market is probably roughly equivalent to whatever sized crowd they drew in 2005 (which was a bit of an anomaly for them - far more successful than 2002 or 2008). Given that those 4 supposed cities listed (Chicago, NYC, Boston, LA), I'd add the 2005 attendance x current day factors: +40% increase for bonus reunion hype +40% increase for scarcity/diehard fans traveling from around the region +30% increase for fans coming from abroad +30% increase for people who were like Oasis well enough but were swayed to atten by whomever the opener is. +20% increase for new, young fans gained since the split (they exist surely, but nowhere even remotely in the same ballpark as the UK) AKA ~160% 2005 attendance I'll do a 10ish% margin of error, and I'd probably boost NYC by about 5k-6k bc of population size and ease of travel from England and LA about 4k-5k bc of population size/proximity to Asia. And maybe boost Chicago by 4k or so b/c it's the only midwest date and then ding Boston by 1k slightly because of the relative proximity of NYC. My rough estimate the ceiling for Oasis attendance at shows in the US 2025 is: - Chicago (23,000 - 27,000) - New York (32,000 - 39,000) - Boston (27,000 - 33,000) - Los Angeles (31,000 - 37,000) I'd love to see Oasis sell out those 4 footballl stadiums but an arena tour is much much safer, granted much less pay day. We shall see what happens in the next few weeks and 365 days. |
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Post by bolco on Sept 1, 2024 2:40:31 GMT -5
Now the hard decision. Add more UK dates in June or starting the world tour with new dates?
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Post by oasisunited on Sept 1, 2024 7:54:41 GMT -5
This is pretty telling. I would say Oasis pure drawing power by themselves, regardless, in any US market is probably roughly equivalent to whatever sized crowd they drew in 2005 (which was a bit of an anomaly for them - far more successful than 2002 or 2008). Given that those 4 supposed cities listed (Chicago, NYC, Boston, LA), I'd add the 2005 attendance x current day factors: +40% increase for bonus reunion hype +40% increase for scarcity/diehard fans traveling from around the region +30% increase for fans coming from abroad +30% increase for people who were like Oasis well enough but were swayed to atten by whomever the opener is. +20% increase for new, young fans gained since the split (they exist surely, but nowhere even remotely in the same ballpark as the UK) AKA ~160% 2005 attendance I'll do a 10ish% margin of error, and I'd probably boost NYC by about 5k-6k bc of population size and ease of travel from England and LA about 4k-5k bc of population size/proximity to Asia. And maybe boost Chicago by 4k or so b/c it's the only midwest date and then ding Boston by 1k slightly because of the relative proximity of NYC. My rough estimate the ceiling for Oasis attendance at shows in the US 2025 is: - Chicago (23,000 - 27,000) - New York (32,000 - 39,000) - Boston (27,000 - 33,000) - Los Angeles (31,000 - 37,000) I'd love to see Oasis sell out those 4 footballl stadiums but an arena tour is much much safer, granted much less pay day. We shall see what happens in the next few weeks and 365 days. I have a feeling that given the 14 million in the UK that just tried to get tickets that they will have no problem supplementing the 20-30k people in Boston and NYC who will attend with another 20-30k people coming over from the UK and Europe, especially if they only play less than 10 dates total in North America. The hype here in Boston is nothing like I have ever seen and I was around in the 90's. One of the local TV stations just did two segments on yesterday's ticket fiasco during their morning news broadcast. Their promoters are doing a much better job this time around keeping the story alive. Time will tell if it lasts until NA dates are announced and actually go on sale. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 1, 2024 12:13:53 GMT -5
Now the hard decision. Add more UK dates in June or starting the world tour with new dates? Not according to the news pages, there'll be no more UK dates added but that's what the Daily Mirror says so who knows for sure. |
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Post by Sadie on Sept 1, 2024 12:16:34 GMT -5
Now the hard decision. Add more UK dates in June or starting the world tour with new dates? Not according to the news pages, there'll be no more UK dates added but that's what the Daily Mirror says so who knows for sure. Except they've now written another article to say that new UK dates are now being considered to control backlash. They know just as much as the rest of us really, i.e. nothing at all |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 1, 2024 12:41:13 GMT -5
Not according to the news pages, there'll be no more UK dates added but that's what the Daily Mirror says so who knows for sure. Except they've now written another article to say that new UK dates are now being considered to control backlash. They know just as much as the rest of us really, i.e. nothing at all Have they? But I agree with you they know just as much as us which is nothing. |
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Post by Sadie on Sept 1, 2024 12:46:58 GMT -5
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 1, 2024 12:50:49 GMT -5
Well time will tell if that's true or not. |
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Sept 1, 2024 13:57:51 GMT -5
Now the hard decision. Add more UK dates in June or starting the world tour with new dates? It is hard to predict what to do about the schedule, but there are some constraints they'll have to deal with. If it's a stadium tour, there's no chance for a European tour next year unless it's in June, before they start the UK/Ireland leg. And if that's the case, they'll have to hurry, as artists are already scheduling stadium tours. Ed Sheeran is slated to do a big European stadium tour starting in May, so if they are considering touring Continental Europe in 2025, that's something they may have to decide quickly (unless it's an arena tour). Anyway, if it's a stadium tour, then I don't see many dates for Europe. Maybe Madrid (Metropolitano?), Paris (Parc des Princes as Stade de France may be too big?), Amsterdam (Johan Cruyff Arena), maybe two cities in Germany (Berlin-Olympiastadion and one more?) and maybe two gigs in Italy (Milan-San Siro and Roma-Olimpico?). Their last date in Dublin is probably the last weekend before football season starts again, so there's no chance of a stadium tour of Europe after that. The American dates are realistic, though, as they fit NFL/CFB schedules. September-December '25 would work well for Asia, Australia/New Zealand, and South America. A while ago, there was a Twitter post with some possible dates and venues, which I'm not 100% sure about (2 dates in Rio de Janeiro and no dates in São Paulo hardly makes sense), but it could be a blueprint for what they do after what's already known. A summer tour of Europe (and the UK/Ireland) in 2026 would be impacted by the World Cup, which will run from 11 June to 19 July. They could do a second European leg after that, though, and perhaps two weekends in Knebworth in late August 2026 to close the tour in style. |
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Post by marqueemoon on Sept 1, 2024 14:59:27 GMT -5
Now the hard decision. Add more UK dates in June or starting the world tour with new dates? It is hard to predict what to do about the schedule, but there are some constraints they'll have to deal with. If it's a stadium tour, there's no chance for a European tour next year unless it's in June, before they start the UK/Ireland leg. And if that's the case, they'll have to hurry, as artists are already scheduling stadium tours. Ed Sheeran is slated to do a big European stadium tour starting in May, so if they are considering touring Continental Europe in 2025, that's something they may have to decide quickly (unless it's an arena tour). Anyway, if it's a stadium tour, then I don't see many dates for Europe. Maybe Madrid (Metropolitano?), Paris (Parc des Princes as Stade de France may be too big?), Amsterdam (Johan Cruyff Arena), maybe two cities in Germany (Berlin-Olympiastadion and one more?) and maybe two gigs in Italy (Milan-San Siro and Roma-Olimpico?). Their last date in Dublin is probably the last weekend before football season starts again, so there's no chance of a stadium tour of Europe after that. The American dates are realistic, though, as they fit NFL/CFB schedules. September-December '25 would work well for Asia, Australia/New Zealand, and South America. A while ago, there was a Twitter post with some possible dates and venues, which I'm not 100% sure about (2 dates in Rio de Janeiro and no dates in São Paulo hardly makes sense), but it could be a blueprint for what they do after what's already known. A summer tour of Europe (and the UK/Ireland) in 2026 would be impacted by the World Cup, which will run from 11 June to 19 July. They could do a second European leg after that, though, and perhaps two weekends in Knebworth in late August 2026 to close the tour in style. Here we go, book it! Add in another round of festivals in Asia in 2026 (Fuji Rock has gotta happen considering their legacy with it) and I think you’ve got it. |
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Post by alex75 on Sept 1, 2024 15:07:53 GMT -5
It is hard to predict what to do about the schedule, but there are some constraints they'll have to deal with. If it's a stadium tour, there's no chance for a European tour next year unless it's in June, before they start the UK/Ireland leg. And if that's the case, they'll have to hurry, as artists are already scheduling stadium tours. Ed Sheeran is slated to do a big European stadium tour starting in May, so if they are considering touring Continental Europe in 2025, that's something they may have to decide quickly (unless it's an arena tour). Anyway, if it's a stadium tour, then I don't see many dates for Europe. Maybe Madrid (Metropolitano?), Paris (Parc des Princes as Stade de France may be too big?), Amsterdam (Johan Cruyff Arena), maybe two cities in Germany (Berlin-Olympiastadion and one more?) and maybe two gigs in Italy (Milan-San Siro and Roma-Olimpico?). Their last date in Dublin is probably the last weekend before football season starts again, so there's no chance of a stadium tour of Europe after that. The American dates are realistic, though, as they fit NFL/CFB schedules. September-December '25 would work well for Asia, Australia/New Zealand, and South America. A while ago, there was a Twitter post with some possible dates and venues, which I'm not 100% sure about (2 dates in Rio de Janeiro and no dates in São Paulo hardly makes sense), but it could be a blueprint for what they do after what's already known. A summer tour of Europe (and the UK/Ireland) in 2026 would be impacted by the World Cup, which will run from 11 June to 19 July. They could do a second European leg after that, though, and perhaps two weekends in Knebworth in late August 2026 to close the tour in style. Here we go, book it! Add in another round of festivals in Asia in 2026 (Fuji Rock has gotta happen considering their legacy with it) and I think you’ve got it. I think it's stadiums tour. They don't Need festivals |
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