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Post by mancraider on Aug 28, 2024 14:52:33 GMT -5
Not that I'll be going but only playing perth in Oz?
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freek
Oasis Roadie
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Post by freek on Aug 28, 2024 15:37:26 GMT -5
Record sales is not album sales .. it’s total sales and oasis are past the 100 million mark … wonderwall alone is double figures .. they are a huge singles bands old Jeff may have got carried away but they’ve shifted more than many think .. their hits and big albums were big in America Wonderwall is really big in the US, probably 3M digital sales, the albums add up to 8,5M according to Chartmasters.org. A bit of singles and other digital sales make a US total of around 15M I think. Streams are hardly records, though they count towards certifications.
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Post by Parka Flames on Aug 29, 2024 6:07:05 GMT -5
The social media aspect will be quite important in the USA imo.
I can only speak as a British person who wasn't around for the band's heyday. But Oasis have always had, I think, a low-key cool factor in the States, precisely because they are a slightly lesser known act. Their inclusion in various TV shows and films over the years, along with high profile American artists singing their praises - e.g. Tom DeLonge, Anthony Kiedis, Weezer, and recently Kendrick Lamar - has contributed to this.
When American celebrities start gushing about Oasis on social media and on TV over the next few months that will cause a massive surge in popularity for the band and introduce them to a large new audience. Word of mouth on social media - and Oasis songs being used in TikToks - will do even more. The music's not all; the highly meme-able clips of the Gallaghers in interviews over the last 30 years also lend themselves well to the modern social media format.
This tech stuff didn't exist in the 90s and Oasis had to rely on the record label and willing media companies to promote them. I genuinely think we are heading for a revival in popularity to rival 1996-1998.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 29, 2024 6:38:43 GMT -5
The social media aspect will be quite important in the USA imo. I can only speak as a British person who wasn't around for the band's heyday. But Oasis have always had, I think, a low-key cool factor in the States, precisely because they are a slightly lesser known act. Their inclusion in various TV shows and films over the years, along with high profile American artists singing their praises - e.g. Tom DeLonge, Anthony Kiedis, Weezer, and recently Kendrick Lamar - has contributed to this. When American celebrities start gushing about Oasis on social media and on TV over the next few months that will cause a massive surge in popularity for the band and introduce them to a large new audience. Word of mouth on social media - and Oasis songs being used in TikToks - will do even more. The music's not all; the highly meme-able clips of the Gallaghers in interviews over the last 30 years also lend themselves well to the modern social media format. This tech stuff didn't exist in the 90s and Oasis had to rely on the record label and willing media companies to promote them. I genuinely think we are heading for a revival in popularity to rival 1996-1998. I'm actually shocked and also proud at the USA media coverage of Oasis getting back together. It feels like 1996 again when people out and about discussed Oasis. Hopefully USA dates get announced within a month to capitalize on this momentum plus they will need the 365 days or so to sell these football stadiums out.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 29, 2024 9:14:38 GMT -5
I like the idea of Oasis getting some local bands to play these USA dates with them.
LA - Weezer
Chicago - Smashing Pumpkins
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Post by dadrocker on Aug 29, 2024 9:17:57 GMT -5
I like the idea of Oasis getting some local bands to play these USA dates with them. LA - Weezer Chicago - Smashing Pumpkins I wonder if Metric will be an opener at the Toronto show. They toured with Noel, obviously, and Noel and Emily Haines seemed to get on pretty well.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 29, 2024 9:23:09 GMT -5
I like the idea of Oasis getting some local bands to play these USA dates with them. LA - Weezer Chicago - Smashing Pumpkins I wonder if Metric will be an opener at the Toronto show. They toured with Noel, obviously, and Noel and Emily Haines seemed to get on pretty well. Do they move the needle for sales? Not sure how big they are in Toronto and Canada. Not sure who is the biggest rock band currently.
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Post by dadrocker on Aug 29, 2024 9:47:30 GMT -5
I wonder if Metric will be an opener at the Toronto show. They toured with Noel, obviously, and Noel and Emily Haines seemed to get on pretty well. Do they move the needle for sales? Not sure how big they are in Toronto and Canada. Not sure who is the biggest rock band currently. No idea, but they are Canadian so I'm assuming that could only help in Canada.
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Post by scorpiosonic on Aug 29, 2024 10:17:19 GMT -5
Why can't oasis tour with someone who's actually in their league but with USA appeal
like the chili peppers or u2 or even the killers
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 29, 2024 10:36:00 GMT -5
Why can't oasis tour with someone who's actually in their league but with USA appeal like the chili peppers or u2 or even the killers This is gonna be the Oasis show. Those bands you named are bigger here at the moment. Nobody is gonna outshine Oasis on this USA run. It’s gotta be a band just beneath them I think.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 29, 2024 11:40:00 GMT -5
When the boys do finally hit the states, I only want a giant black tarp with the classic decca style Oasis logo behind them. Thats it.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 29, 2024 11:46:48 GMT -5
Why can't oasis tour with someone who's actually in their league but with USA appeal like the chili peppers or u2 or even the killers Oasis would be a support act to U2 in the states.
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Aug 29, 2024 12:32:27 GMT -5
The social media aspect will be quite important in the USA imo. I can only speak as a British person who wasn't around for the band's heyday. But Oasis have always had, I think, a low-key cool factor in the States, precisely because they are a slightly lesser known act. Their inclusion in various TV shows and films over the years, along with high profile American artists singing their praises - e.g. Tom DeLonge, Anthony Kiedis, Weezer, and recently Kendrick Lamar - has contributed to this. When American celebrities start gushing about Oasis on social media and on TV over the next few months that will cause a massive surge in popularity for the band and introduce them to a large new audience. Word of mouth on social media - and Oasis songs being used in TikToks - will do even more. The music's not all; the highly meme-able clips of the Gallaghers in interviews over the last 30 years also lend themselves well to the modern social media format. This tech stuff didn't exist in the 90s and Oasis had to rely on the record label and willing media companies to promote them. I genuinely think we are heading for a revival in popularity to rival 1996-1998. I'm actually shocked and also proud at the USA media coverage of Oasis getting back together. It feels like 1996 again when people out and about discussed Oasis. Hopefully USA dates get announced within a month to capitalize on this momentum plus they will need the 365 days or so to sell these football stadiums out. I am also shocked and pleasantly surprised at the media coverage here about it.
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Post by capo2ndfret on Aug 29, 2024 13:14:50 GMT -5
I dunno...I'm skeptical they'd embark for North American one week after wrapping UK. And I suppose they'll be looking at the Americas as a whole. Stadiums in Mexico City, Lima, Santiago, Buenos, Rio would be more attractive than arenas in LA/NYC. I def think USA/Canada would be arenas, not stadiums. 2x MSG, Red Rocks & Hollywood Bowl gets them east-to-west. Fly outta LA for Mexico/Peru. I agree with this assessment. Outside of the UK, Oasis are a bonafide stadium band in South America and Mexico but otherwise, they are a 20K arena band in most places, including Europe unless I am mistaken. Possible exception is Japan if they consolodate and only play one or two gigs max. What is more outrageous than the American venues are the australian ones. When has Oasis ever been that popular down under?
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Post by capo2ndfret on Aug 29, 2024 13:24:06 GMT -5
Record sales is not album sales .. it’s total sales and oasis are past the 100 million mark … wonderwall alone is double figures .. they are a huge singles bands old Jeff may have got carried away but they’ve shifted more than many think .. their hits and big albums were big in America Sorry for the double post but chartmasters had their total sales at 65.5 million... there is no way that in 7 years with no band activity they would jump to 100 million... I would like to see your source for that figure, here is mine: chartmasters.org/cspc-oasis-popularity-analysis/
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Post by crownie on Aug 29, 2024 13:27:38 GMT -5
Not that I'll be going but only playing perth in Oz? It's probably the best stadium in Australia now for a band to play. They may have seen the success Coldplay had only doing Perth shows.
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Post by coolprophet on Aug 29, 2024 14:40:25 GMT -5
Why can't oasis tour with someone who's actually in their league but with USA appeal like the chili peppers or u2 or even the killers They would for sure have some bigger band as main support act out of the maybe 2-3 additional acts on the ball. The Killers would be a good pick and definitely possible if it's really stadiums.
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Post by vespa on Aug 29, 2024 15:06:24 GMT -5
Chartmasters talks rubbish. Under Alan McGee alone they sold 65 million records , he’s on record stating it . They have definitely in the last 24 years sold around 40 million records , wonderwall alone has 3 billion streams , they’ve sold over 25 million albums this turn of the century Record sales is not album sales .. it’s total sales and oasis are past the 100 million mark … wonderwall alone is double figures .. they are a huge singles bands old Jeff may have got carried away but they’ve shifted more than many think .. their hits and big albums were big in America Sorry for the double post but chartmasters had their total sales at 65.5 million... there is no way that in 7 years with no band activity they would jump to 100 million... I would like to see your source for that figure, here is mine: chartmasters.org/cspc-oasis-popularity-analysis/
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Post by soupersonic on Aug 29, 2024 15:20:17 GMT -5
When the boys do finally hit the states, I only want a giant black tarp with the classic decca style Oasis logo behind them. Thats it. I think that the best idea would be if they toured with the early definitely maybe/live-demonstration era backdrop, the classic swirl design is my favourite.
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Post by simmy7 on Aug 30, 2024 1:25:17 GMT -5
The answer to the American support is staring us in the face. Get Damon and Jarvis on the phone!
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Post by ournoel775 on Aug 30, 2024 11:45:03 GMT -5
Seems like they'll wait to announce USA/worldwide dates until after the UK sale matures for a week or more.
I missed the pre-sale sign-up, and suppose the UK sale will be somewhat geofenced against non-EU folk. I'll try for tixs tomorrow morning, but not convinced I'll be successful.
I wanted to convince myself a 4-6 stadium gigs in USA could work, but the stadium gig season ends pretty quickly in September, and I don't foresee the band hightailing it to another global leg after smashing it for a solid 5+ weeks in UK. Not to mention I'm still skeptical a 50,000+ venue would be a full sellout.
Lends itself to maybe arenas in Oct/Nov? Surely they wouldn't build around the Austin City Limits Festival because a festival wouldn't need top pay a "reunion premium" to get their festival sales.
My latest guess: they enjoy 2 weeks off after UK, and then do Japan/South America stadiums late Sept/Oct; leaves N.American arenas for Nov/Dec (NYC, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, LA, Mexico City)
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 30, 2024 11:49:05 GMT -5
Seems like they'll wait to announce USA/worldwide dates until after the UK sale matures for a week or more. I missed the pre-sale sign-up, and suppose the UK sale will be somewhat geofenced against non-EU folk. I'll try for tixs tomorrow morning, but not convinced I'll be successful. I wanted to convince myself a 4-6 stadium gigs in USA could work, but the stadium gig season ends pretty quickly in September, and I don't foresee the band hightailing it to another global leg after smashing it for a solid 5+ weeks in UK. Not to mention I'm still skeptical a 50,000+ venue would be a full sellout. Lends itself to maybe arenas in Oct/Nov? Surely they wouldn't build around the Austin City Limits Festival because a festival wouldn't need top pay a "reunion premium" to get their festival sales. My latest guess: they enjoy 2 weeks off after UK, and then do Japan/South America stadiums late Sept/Oct; leaves N.American arenas for Nov/Dec (NYC, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, LA, Mexico City) The leak that had the correct European dates has the NA gigs starting the week after Dublin. At this stage I see no reason to doubt it. US will be a small number of big gigs.
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Post by dadrocker on Aug 30, 2024 17:14:29 GMT -5
Seems like they'll wait to announce USA/worldwide dates until after the UK sale matures for a week or more. I missed the pre-sale sign-up, and suppose the UK sale will be somewhat geofenced against non-EU folk. I'll try for tixs tomorrow morning, but not convinced I'll be successful. I wanted to convince myself a 4-6 stadium gigs in USA could work, but the stadium gig season ends pretty quickly in September, and I don't foresee the band hightailing it to another global leg after smashing it for a solid 5+ weeks in UK. Not to mention I'm still skeptical a 50,000+ venue would be a full sellout. Lends itself to maybe arenas in Oct/Nov? Surely they wouldn't build around the Austin City Limits Festival because a festival wouldn't need top pay a "reunion premium" to get their festival sales. My latest guess: they enjoy 2 weeks off after UK, and then do Japan/South America stadiums late Sept/Oct; leaves N.American arenas for Nov/Dec (NYC, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, LA, Mexico City) The leak that had the correct European dates has the NA gigs starting the week after Dublin. At this stage I see no reason to doubt it. US will be a small number of big gigs. Don't Believe The Leak
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Post by vespa on Aug 30, 2024 17:39:21 GMT -5
This will be their first worldwide stadium tour because it condense the gigs and travel times which in the past tends to cause problems.. they were playing 5/6 in Brazil when they could play a stadium.. the demand of marketed right will be there and most of the reasons they didn’t ever tour Europe stadium wise was the costs , in Japan they are the biggest international band of the last 40 years they are huge there . This tour will be massive and will finish with Glastonbury and knebworth
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 30, 2024 17:54:07 GMT -5
I'm not ready if this is real. Oasis in Toronto and US stadium tour. Found it on twitter yesterday and the dates line up so maybe there's more to be announced. Fingers crossed The MetLife Stadium is 80,000, no way are they playing there
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