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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 10, 2024 10:30:18 GMT -5
WEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLL
Need a little time to woke up woke up
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 10, 2024 10:31:45 GMT -5
Dunno what’s more tedious, Noel bemoaning stuff being woke or the usual few bedwetters complaining about Noel calling stuff woke.
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 10, 2024 12:31:07 GMT -5
Most people who use it don't know what it means. It pretty much represents anything that they don't like now. Antiwar? Woke. Anti-racism? Woke. Not transphobic? Woke. Not anti-immigrant? Woke. Not a Tory? Woke. So, basically: Woke (adjective): umbrella term used by people to bitch and moan about today's society, its advancements and evolution. The term is particularly appreciated by conservatives, homophobes, racists, xenophobes, transphobes, conspiracy theorists, assholes who miss the days they could grab a woman's ass without consequence and old farts who refuse to understand the world they live in. Bang on mate. There’s not a single one of you lot subscribed to one-sided politics that have uttered a single substantive argument. When you’re willing to have a real discussion, let me know. Until then, maybe try to understand the origin of the term and how far off-course it’s gone. Puppets…
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Post by Sadie on Jul 10, 2024 12:33:58 GMT -5
There’s not a single one of you lot subscribed to one-sided politics that have uttered a single substantive argument. When you’re willing to have a real discussion, let me know. Until then, maybe try to understand the origin of the term and how far off-course it’s gone. Puppets… I'm fully aware of the origin of the term and how off-course it's gone, this is what everyone's pointing out. It's lost all meaning it once had and has now morphed into a lazy, umbrella term for anything even mildly progressive (to the extent that the amount of people who actually know the original meaning is tiny compared to those who don't)
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 10, 2024 12:37:21 GMT -5
There’s not a single one of you lot subscribed to one-sided politics that have uttered a single substantive argument. When you’re willing to have a real discussion, let me know. Until then, maybe try to understand the origin of the term and how far off-course it’s gone. Puppets… I'm fully aware of the origin of the term and how off-course it's gone, this is what everyone's pointing out. It's lost all meaning it once had and has now morphed into a lazy, umbrella term for anything even mildly progressive (to the extent that the amount of people who actually know the original meaning is tiny compared to those who don't) Still waiting for a cognizant thought.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 10, 2024 14:37:01 GMT -5
I'm fully aware of the origin of the term and how off-course it's gone, this is what everyone's pointing out. It's lost all meaning it once had and has now morphed into a lazy, umbrella term for anything even mildly progressive (to the extent that the amount of people who actually know the original meaning is tiny compared to those who don't) Still waiting for a cognizant thought. Because ignoring people's questions to bitch about them having not "uttered a single substantive argument" and accuse them of being "subscribed to one-sided politics" and calling them "puppets" while asking for a "cognizant thought" is of high substance. Irony could bite off one of your ass cheeks and you still wouldn't see it. I know the origin of the term. But do you? You've yet to tell us what "woke" means to you, which was what globe asked you. Here, let me help you out. I hope you don't consider Merriam-Webster to be mainstream propaganda www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/woke-meaning-originYou can read a bit on Wikipedia? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WokeI'm sure a lot of the people who use the word in a negative light have a different origin in mind or definition, but facts don't care about feelings right? A definition is a definition, an origin is an origin and a meaning is a meaning.
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 10, 2024 15:18:03 GMT -5
Still waiting for a cognizant thought. Because ignoring people's questions to bitch about them having not "uttered a single substantive argument" and accuse them of being "subscribed to one-sided politics" and calling them "puppets" while asking for a "cognizant thought" is of high substance. Irony could bite off one of your ass cheeks and you still wouldn't see it. I know the origin of the term. But do you? You've yet to tell us what "woke" means to you, which was what globe asked you. Here, let me help you out. I hope you don't consider Merriam-Webster to be mainstream propaganda www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/woke-meaning-originYou can read a bit on Wikipedia? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WokeI'm sure a lot of the people who use the word in a negative light have a different origin in mind or definition, but facts don't care about feelings right? A definition is a definition, an origin is an origin and a meaning is a meaning. Are you “awake,” mate? The term has been completely devalued by partisan radicals that have destroyed the movement by subjugating the individuals who were previously, genuinely oppressed. Do you think black Americans support being COMPLETELY passed-over for the new progressive movement? If so, I’d urge you to do some legitimate research on the topic. You quote Wikipedia as a source? C’mon… The black vote is moving further and further right because they’re being overlooked in favor of supporting the extreme minority. Do you have any understanding of the issues in the U.S. or are you parroting the mainstream narrative? I’d put money on the latter. Modern “woke” has been co-opted by both parties. One says if you don’t support every fucking issue we stand for, you’re a bigot. The other says if you’re woke, you’re devoid of logic. The answer is somewhere in the center, as are most humans when confronted with issues that impact their lives and ability to live freely.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 10, 2024 15:28:14 GMT -5
Because ignoring people's questions to bitch about them having not "uttered a single substantive argument" and accuse them of being "subscribed to one-sided politics" and calling them "puppets" while asking for a "cognizant thought" is of high substance. Irony could bite off one of your ass cheeks and you still wouldn't see it. I know the origin of the term. But do you? You've yet to tell us what "woke" means to you, which was what globe asked you. Here, let me help you out. I hope you don't consider Merriam-Webster to be mainstream propaganda www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/woke-meaning-originYou can read a bit on Wikipedia? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WokeI'm sure a lot of the people who use the word in a negative light have a different origin in mind or definition, but facts don't care about feelings right? A definition is a definition, an origin is an origin and a meaning is a meaning. Are you “awake,” mate? The term has been completely devalued by partisan radicals that have destroyed the movement by subjugating the individuals who were previously, genuinely oppressed. Do you think black Americans support being COMPLETELY passed-over for the new progressive movement? If so, I’d urge you to do some legitimate research on the topic. You quote Wikipedia as a source? C’mon… The black vote is moving further and further right because they’re being overlooked in favor of supporting the extreme minority. Do you have any understanding of the issues in the U.S. or are you parroting the mainstream narrative? I’d put money on the latter. Modern “woke” has been co-opted by both parties. One says if you don’t support every fucking issue we stand for, you’re a bigot. The other says if you’re woke, you’re devoid of logic. The answer is somewhere in the center, as are most humans when confronted with issues that impact their lives and ability to live freely. We were talking about the origin of the word, I gave you several sources to see the origin of the word. What people have made it to be is irrelevant. I gave you facts. Also, you can decide to focus on the Wikipedia and ignore the sources it cites but I also gave you a proper dictionary and you can find countless articles about it online. After that, you do you boo.
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 10, 2024 15:35:34 GMT -5
Are you “awake,” mate? The term has been completely devalued by partisan radicals that have destroyed the movement by subjugating the individuals who were previously, genuinely oppressed. Do you think black Americans support being COMPLETELY passed-over for the new progressive movement? If so, I’d urge you to do some legitimate research on the topic. You quote Wikipedia as a source? C’mon… The black vote is moving further and further right because they’re being overlooked in favor of supporting the extreme minority. Do you have any understanding of the issues in the U.S. or are you parroting the mainstream narrative? I’d put money on the latter. Modern “woke” has been co-opted by both parties. One says if you don’t support every fucking issue we stand for, you’re a bigot. The other says if you’re woke, you’re devoid of logic. The answer is somewhere in the center, as are most humans when confronted with issues that impact their lives and ability to live freely. We were talking about the origin of the word, I gave you several sources to see the origin of the word. What people have made it to be is irrelevant. I gave you facts. Also, you can decide to focus on the Wikipedia and ignore the sources it cites but I also gave you a proper dictionary and you can find countless articles about it online. After that, you do you boo. The point is that the original meaning has been destroyed by fanatics. Are you willing to accept that? My argument is that the original term held significant value and purpose, whereas the current version is a political subjugation that divides the masses.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jul 10, 2024 16:09:15 GMT -5
We were talking about the origin of the word, I gave you several sources to see the origin of the word. What people have made it to be is irrelevant. I gave you facts. Also, you can decide to focus on the Wikipedia and ignore the sources it cites but I also gave you a proper dictionary and you can find countless articles about it online. After that, you do you boo. The point is that the original meaning has been destroyed by fanatics. Are you willing to accept that? My argument is that the original term held significant value and purpose, whereas the current version is a political subjugation that divides the masses. Genuine question - absolutely no subtext to this question. Who do you vote for?
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 10, 2024 16:26:22 GMT -5
The point is that the original meaning has been destroyed by fanatics. Are you willing to accept that? My argument is that the original term held significant value and purpose, whereas the current version is a political subjugation that divides the masses. Genuine question - absolutely no subtext to this question. Who do you vote for? Didn’t vote for pres in 2016. I supported and donated over $1,000 to Andrew Yang in 2020, but reluctantly ended up voting for Biden. Prob won’t vote this year, but if RFK is on the ballot, I’d vote for him.
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Post by matt on Jul 10, 2024 16:56:30 GMT -5
Noel's unbearable these days. Can't be arsed with him anymore. Miserable Sun reading tosser.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jul 11, 2024 2:14:07 GMT -5
I couldn’t care less about his political leanings. I just think he’s become a more obnoxiously arrogant, angry person with a sharp tongue that no longer speaks with any value. It’s concerning that people hold something against others for their political beliefs. This is exactly what the powers who control us want and it’s shocking that those living in it are either blinded by naïveté or are too consumed with themselves to realize it. For those of us that reside in the U.S., we are living in the most propagandized nation on Earth and our friends in the UK are close behind. The Russians and Chinese are aware that their media is just a state-run propaganda machine, but for some reason we won’t collectively wake the fuck up. There’s endless evidence of atrocities committed behind lies propagated for monetary gain/power and we know it, yet still think one side is better than the other?? Those in power don’t give a single fuck about the common man; they continue to increase their riches while our resources dwindle and all we do is infight. It's less about his specific beliefs (which I'm sure are either terrible or few in number) and more about him parroting right wing lines which he doesn't seem to understand. He's a useful establishment idiot. God bless enlightened souls like you that are not useful idiots for anyone
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Post by carlober on Jul 11, 2024 2:35:21 GMT -5
There’s not a single one of you lot subscribed to one-sided politics that have uttered a single substantive argument. When you’re willing to have a real discussion, let me know. Until then, maybe try to understand the origin of the term and how far off-course it’s gone. Puppets… Come on, spare us this bullshit... It happens all the time. When conspiracy theories supporters feel cornered by some facts, they react with that stupid assertion about puppets and how only they are the bearers of the truth. Pathetic.
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 11, 2024 2:58:24 GMT -5
There’s not a single one of you lot subscribed to one-sided politics that have uttered a single substantive argument. When you’re willing to have a real discussion, let me know. Until then, maybe try to understand the origin of the term and how far off-course it’s gone. Puppets… Come on, spare us this bullshit... It happens all the time. When conspiracy theories supporters feel cornered by some facts, they react with that stupid assertion about puppets and how only they are the bearers of the truth. Pathetic. Hahahaha!!! I take it you’ve never actually read the one-sided, non-factual and demeaning comments made by others in political-related posts/threads? I use a negative term toward people once and Mr. Mod wants to scold me… Hypocritical and devoid of critical thought, per usual.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 11, 2024 6:15:28 GMT -5
It's less about his specific beliefs (which I'm sure are either terrible or few in number) and more about him parroting right wing lines which he doesn't seem to understand. He's a useful establishment idiot. God bless enlightened souls like you that are not useful idiots for anyone I may be, but it isn't for the right wing establishment. You need to get the old man back to the care home so he stops talking bollocks in public.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 11, 2024 7:39:55 GMT -5
We were talking about the origin of the word, I gave you several sources to see the origin of the word. What people have made it to be is irrelevant. I gave you facts. Also, you can decide to focus on the Wikipedia and ignore the sources it cites but I also gave you a proper dictionary and you can find countless articles about it online. After that, you do you boo. The point is that the original meaning has been destroyed by fanatics. Are you willing to accept that? My argument is that the original term held significant value and purpose, whereas the current version is a political subjugation that divides the masses. If that's the point you were making then why did you react negatively to my post where I explained that it had been highjacked to bitch about today's world? Instead of calling people puppets, simply adding to my post that you think the left has also highjacked it would have been clearer don't you think? Now you just look like you're backpeddling.
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 11, 2024 13:14:39 GMT -5
Noel changed for me years ago when he went solo with his stupid comments well before he started talking about all this yoke stuff.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 11, 2024 14:57:11 GMT -5
Dunno what’s more tedious, Noel bemoaning stuff being woke or the usual few bedwetters complaining about Noel calling stuff woke. Yeah it’s really shocking that long time Oasis fans would point out, and comment on, Noel’s descent towards conservatism. And on an Oasis forum at that! 😂
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Post by carlober on Jul 11, 2024 14:59:46 GMT -5
The point is that the original meaning has been destroyed by fanatics. Are you willing to accept that? My argument is that the original term held significant value and purpose, whereas the current version is a political subjugation that divides the masses. If that's the point you were making then why did you react negatively to my post where I explained that it had been highjacked to bitch about today's world? Instead of calling people puppets, simply adding to my post that you think the left has also highjacked it would have been clearer don't you think? Now you just look like you're backpeddling. There's no point in arguing with him. Talking bullshit and then playing the victim card. How typical.
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Post by carlober on Jul 11, 2024 15:29:30 GMT -5
Anyway, just to be clear: most of the time when I post, I'm just like any regular forum user. Being a moderator mostly means moving messages, deleting links to official material, and keeping things calm. The rest of the time, mimmihopps, eva and I are just regular users sharing our opinions like everyone else. "Mr. Mod" says bye for tonight ![P-)](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/aISM4jCl_eWjI5L9xvHU.gif)
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Post by globe on Jul 11, 2024 16:27:26 GMT -5
Genuine question - absolutely no subtext to this question. Who do you vote for? Didn’t vote for pres in 2016. I supported and donated over $1,000 to Andrew Yang in 2020, but reluctantly ended up voting for Biden. Prob won’t vote this year, but if RFK is on the ballot, I’d vote for him. RFK?! Oh C’mon tae fuck! You are just on a wind up now.
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 12, 2024 0:38:57 GMT -5
The point is that the original meaning has been destroyed by fanatics. Are you willing to accept that? My argument is that the original term held significant value and purpose, whereas the current version is a political subjugation that divides the masses. If that's the point you were making then why did you react negatively to my post where I explained that it had been highjacked to bitch about today's world? Instead of calling people puppets, simply adding to my post that you think the left has also highjacked it would have been clearer don't you think? Now you just look like you're backpeddling. To be completely honest, I didn’t fully read your post the first time around. Was in the middle of the workday and trying to do too many things at once.
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 12, 2024 0:48:58 GMT -5
If that's the point you were making then why did you react negatively to my post where I explained that it had been highjacked to bitch about today's world? Instead of calling people puppets, simply adding to my post that you think the left has also highjacked it would have been clearer don't you think? Now you just look like you're backpeddling. There's no point in arguing with him. Talking bullshit and then playing the victim card. How typical. Just pointed out the truth. How about providing some examples of me being a conspiracy theorist, as opposed to making reductionist comments?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jul 12, 2024 6:09:51 GMT -5
There's no point in arguing with him. Talking bullshit and then playing the victim card. How typical. Just pointed out the truth. How about providing some examples of me being a conspiracy theorist, as opposed to making reductionist comments? live4ever.proboards.com/post/1748540/threadHmm... The whole COVID angle you've going for certainly leans that way. As is all the Joe Rogan stuff and your opinions on Left/Right 'establishment'.
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