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Post by Bonehead's Barber on May 26, 2024 4:53:48 GMT -5
Anyone who likes Joe Rogan is on the incel spectrum. Lads with serious mental health issues I think. Can't criticise, can only pity them. File alongside Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, etc. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz He is spot on, particularly about Andrew Tate.
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Post by The Chief on May 26, 2024 8:21:02 GMT -5
Can we go without the politics? Save that for Twitter. I come here for podcast news, not your hot takes. I get what you saw coming now.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 26, 2024 8:30:32 GMT -5
Can we go without the politics? Save that for Twitter. I come here for podcast news, not your hot takes. I get what you saw coming now. It was aimed at me and tbh I didn't say anything political in response. Only that it would be a bad idea because it would bring out the worst in Noel
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Post by The Chief on May 26, 2024 8:48:15 GMT -5
I get what you saw coming now. It was aimed at me and tbh I didn't say anything political in response. Only that it would be a bad idea because it would bring out the worst in Noel Was it? I still totally agree with you, I just didn't expect this thread to turn into this.
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Post by halftheworldaway91 on May 26, 2024 8:54:15 GMT -5
Joe Rogan is great. A very intelligent guy!
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Post by carlober on May 26, 2024 11:34:28 GMT -5
Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson are c*nts. Vile promoters of crazy conspiracy theories who are still making a lot of money by spreading bullshit around.
And don't get me started on Andrew Tate: if there was a prize for the most disgusting man on the planet, he'd be a strong candidate.
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Post by jeffrey on May 26, 2024 12:50:49 GMT -5
Genuine question for those on the forum that seem to base your opinions/beliefs on the information your governments and state-sponsored media disseminate. Why would you ever believe anything they’ve told you when there is literally endless examples of lies, corruption, and evil atrocities committed upon citizens for absolute power and financial gain?
Allowing government power to go unchecked without questioning motives and uncovering corruption leads to horrific outcomes for citizens, as history has shown with instances of abuse and injustice. Legacy media, often influenced by state interests, fails to provide unbiased and objective information, compromising the public's ability to hold power accountable and make informed decisions.
It used to be considered as commendable and necessary for people to seek information for themselves and incorporate that into molding our opinions, but somehow, they’ve conned the majority of people into blindly accepting their propaganda. Our leaders (with minimal exceptions) don’t give a flying fuck about their citizens other than to determine how they can future exploit us for their benefit.
Rogan is just a comic, commentator and podcaster that is endlessly curious. He’s an entertainer that supernova’d into the most listened to person on Earth for a reason; people became sick of being told how they’re supposed to feel about every subject and canceled if their opinions differed. Of course a portion of his listeners are absolutely bonkers, but that’s the case for followers of any public figure. I believe it’s an ABSOLUTE MUST for there to be alternative views and opinions espoused, regardless if the views are completely wrong or even somewhat dangerous because if our speech is culled or regulated, we will have zero autonomy over our own lives. Never forget the ACLU fought for the right of neo-nazis to exist/assemble because they understood that if you remove the rights of any subset of the population, at some point, their rights will stripped from them.
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Post by carlober on May 26, 2024 13:18:39 GMT -5
I believe it’s an ABSOLUTE MUST for there to be alternative views and opinions espoused, regardless if the views are completely wrong or even somewhat dangerousI completely disagree with this. I mean, completely. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or not questioning stuff. People who spread bullshit around (that can lead to dangerous situations) or who act as nasty role models are a huge problem - and they must be stopped. Just look at all the youngsters idolizing Andrew Tate.
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Post by matt on May 26, 2024 13:49:13 GMT -5
Anyone who likes Joe Rogan is on the incel spectrum. Lads with serious mental health issues I think. Can't criticise, can only pity them. Making such broad, negative generalizations about people’s sexual proclivities and mental health based on their entertainment choices is not only ignorant, but deeply hypocritical. You’re criticizing others for perceived narrow-mindedness while demonstrating it to a spectacular degree yourself. Saying you “can’t criticize, only pity them” is a masterclass in condescension and pity is typically the refuge of those who can’t muster the intellectual rigor for actual debate. That posts a lot of conjecture thrown in with word salad that ultimately means sweet f*** all. And as for 'based on entertainment choices'? Yes because calling for a 'violent white male chauvinist' uprising and platforming the likes of Proud Boys is 'entertainment'. And spreading harmful misinformation is entertainment (which I presume you get your anti-covid conspiracy shite from). Fascinating then when Rogan was confronted with misinformation by doctors, all he could whimper was 'I'm not an expert, I'm just offering an opinion'. Pathetic runt of a man. You can dress it up in big words all you want but its crap like that that's dangerously reckless to vulnerable insecure young males, the sort that lap that up, promote misogyny and then sign up to Hustlers University, and then proceed to do something much much worse. That's what they are and then they become dangerous. No human with a healthy balanced mindset latches on to this kind of crap. And all the incels here, give those hollow heads of yours a shake. Pathetic individuals.
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Post by jeffrey on May 26, 2024 14:02:27 GMT -5
I believe it’s an ABSOLUTE MUST for there to be alternative views and opinions espoused, regardless if the views are completely wrong or even somewhat dangerousI completely disagree with this. I mean, completely. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech or not questioning stuff. People who spread bullshit around (that can lead to dangerous situations) or who act as nasty role models are a huge problem - and they must be stopped. Just look at all the youngsters idolizing Andrew Tate. We are a flawed species that does not and will never exist in a utopia. Silencing views and opinions creates greater consequences, as it leads those being silenced into acts of radicalism/terrorism/genocide; there are endless examples of this across history. Just because you don’t like someone’s opinion doesn’t mean others don’t find value in it. Again, even the ACLU recognized the importance of allowing neo-nazis to freely express their views and to publicly assemble because they understood if that precedent is set, they will eventually become victims of said precedent.
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Post by jeffrey on May 26, 2024 14:14:58 GMT -5
Making such broad, negative generalizations about people’s sexual proclivities and mental health based on their entertainment choices is not only ignorant, but deeply hypocritical. You’re criticizing others for perceived narrow-mindedness while demonstrating it to a spectacular degree yourself. Saying you “can’t criticize, only pity them” is a masterclass in condescension and pity is typically the refuge of those who can’t muster the intellectual rigor for actual debate. That posts a lot of conjecture thrown in with word salad that ultimately means sweet f*** all. And as for 'based on entertainment choices'? Yes because calling for a 'violent white male chauvinist' uprising and platforming the likes of Proud Boys is 'entertainment'. And spreading harmful misinformation is entertainment (which I presume you get your anti-covid conspiracy shite from). Fascinating then when Rogan was confronted with misinformation by doctors, all he could whimper was 'I'm not an expert, I'm just offering an opinion'. Pathetic runt of a man. You can dress it up in big words all you want but its crap like that that's dangerously reckless to vulnerable insecure young males, the sort that lap that up, promote misogyny and then sign up to Hustlers University, and then proceed to do something much much worse. That's what they are and then they become dangerous. No human with a healthy balanced mindset latches on to this kind of crap. And all the incels here, give those hollow heads of yours a shake. Pathetic individuals. Are you so blind that you’re unable to see your name-calling and labels make it glaringly obvious that there’s no validity in your responses?
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Post by carlober on May 26, 2024 14:21:02 GMT -5
Just because you don’t like someone’s opinion doesn’t mean others don’t find value in it. What are you talking about? I'm not talking about opinions that I do not like. I'm talking about bullshit that is either blatantly false, anti-scientific or misogynistic. There's no value to be found in that kind of stuff. The only value is in the money that these idiots are making thanks to all the fools following their cult.
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Post by jeffrey on May 26, 2024 14:43:23 GMT -5
Just because you don’t like someone’s opinion doesn’t mean others don’t find value in it. What are you talking about? I'm not talking about opinions that I do not like. I'm talking about bullshit that is either blatantly false, anti-scientific or misogynistic. There's no value to be found in that kind of stuff. The only value is in the money that these idiots are making thanks to all the fools following their cult. Would you admit that blatantly false, anti-scientific and misogynistic information is also spread via legacy media and governments? If so, why focus your hatred on a podcast host instead of those that actually have some control of your life?
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Post by carlober on May 26, 2024 14:58:00 GMT -5
What are you talking about? I'm not talking about opinions that I do not like. I'm talking about bullshit that is either blatantly false, anti-scientific or misogynistic. There's no value to be found in that kind of stuff. The only value is in the money that these idiots are making thanks to all the fools following their cult. Would you admit that blatantly false, anti-scientific and misogynistic information is also spread via legacy media and governments? If so, why focus your hatred on a podcast host instead of those that actually have some control of your life? I'm not supporting any legacy media or government who shares anti-scientific or misogynistic views. About the veracity of "official information"... that's a different and more difficult topic that is entangled with propaganda and politics. Do you support podcast hosts who spread conspiracy theories?
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Post by jeffrey on May 26, 2024 15:27:34 GMT -5
Would you admit that blatantly false, anti-scientific and misogynistic information is also spread via legacy media and governments? If so, why focus your hatred on a podcast host instead of those that actually have some control of your life? I'm not supporting any legacy media or government who shares anti-scientific or misogynistic views. About the veracity of "official information"... that's a different and more difficult topic that is entangled with propaganda and politics. Do you support podcast hosts who spread conspiracy theories? I may not like certain people or what they stand for, but I ABSOLUTELY support their right to publish content. Podcasts are a form of entertainment, not all-powerful entities that govern all the systems which control our lives. By your logic, humans shouldn’t be allowed to consume film, music, comedy, video games, etc. for the fear that the content may impact thoughts/actions of the individuals that watch and listen. It’s curious to me that the only people you and others identified as threats to humanity are perceived to be conservative. Are dangerous “conspiracy theories” only perpetuated by conservatives or is it that you are so ideologically aligned with one side that you’re unwilling to be objective? Side note: you are aware there are tons of what you identify as conspiracy theories that have been proven true, correct?
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Post by carlober on May 26, 2024 15:43:25 GMT -5
I'm not supporting any legacy media or government who shares anti-scientific or misogynistic views. About the veracity of "official information"... that's a different and more difficult topic that is entangled with propaganda and politics. Do you support podcast hosts who spread conspiracy theories? I may not like certain people or what they stand for, but I ABSOLUTELY support their right to publish content. Podcasts are a form of entertainment, not all-powerful entities that govern all the systems which control our lives. By your logic, humans shouldn’t be allowed to consume film, music, comedy, video games, etc. for the fear that the content may impact thoughts/actions of the individuals that watch and listen. It’s curious to me that the only people you and others identified as threats to humanity are perceived to be conservative. Are dangerous “conspiracy theories” only perpetuated by conservatives or is it that you are so ideologically aligned with one side that you’re unwilling to be objective? Side note: you are aware there are tons of what you identify as conspiracy theories that have been proven true, correct? So yeah, let's support the right of sexual predators, human traffickers, charlatans and scammers to publish content and gather a fanbase (and money). Why not, what could ever go wrong? FFS, you clearly don't understand. I'm not ideologically aligned with anything. I'm a science guy - I don't believe in superstition, religion and conspiracy theories that are incompatible with the laws of physics or even common sense. I haven't been talking about politics, conservatives or whatever in this thread. You are completely missing the point again. Politics have nothing to do with what I am saying.
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Post by carlober on May 26, 2024 15:45:12 GMT -5
Side note: you are aware there are tons of what you identify as conspiracy theories that have been proven true, correct? ![P-)](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/aISM4jCl_eWjI5L9xvHU.gif)
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Post by carlober on May 26, 2024 16:07:24 GMT -5
Here's a new thread for keeping these discussions going without derailing other threads. Thanks.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 26, 2024 16:08:47 GMT -5
I'm not supporting any legacy media or government who shares anti-scientific or misogynistic views. About the veracity of "official information"... that's a different and more difficult topic that is entangled with propaganda and politics. Do you support podcast hosts who spread conspiracy theories? I may not like certain people or what they stand for, but I ABSOLUTELY support their right to publish content. Podcasts are a form of entertainment, not all-powerful entities that govern all the systems which control our lives. By your logic, humans shouldn’t be allowed to consume film, music, comedy, video games, etc. for the fear that the content may impact thoughts/actions of the individuals that watch and listen. It’s curious to me that the only people you and others identified as threats to humanity are perceived to be conservative. Are dangerous “conspiracy theories” only perpetuated by conservatives or is it that you are so ideologically aligned with one side that you’re unwilling to be objective? Side note: you are aware there are tons of what you identify as conspiracy theories that have been proven true, correct? There’s only one primary conspiracy in the world if you can even all it that (given how it obvious it is). There’s a small group of people with power, wealth and influence committed to expanding or at least maintaining that power, wealth and influence. We are only a pawn in their game as Dylan put it.
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Post by jeffrey on May 26, 2024 16:37:33 GMT -5
I may not like certain people or what they stand for, but I ABSOLUTELY support their right to publish content. Podcasts are a form of entertainment, not all-powerful entities that govern all the systems which control our lives. By your logic, humans shouldn’t be allowed to consume film, music, comedy, video games, etc. for the fear that the content may impact thoughts/actions of the individuals that watch and listen. It’s curious to me that the only people you and others identified as threats to humanity are perceived to be conservative. Are dangerous “conspiracy theories” only perpetuated by conservatives or is it that you are so ideologically aligned with one side that you’re unwilling to be objective? Side note: you are aware there are tons of what you identify as conspiracy theories that have been proven true, correct? There’s only one primary conspiracy in the world if you can even all it that (given how it obvious it is). There’s a small group of people with power, wealth and influence committed to expanding or at least maintaining that power, wealth and influence. We are only a pawn in their game as Dylan put it. 100% agree
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Post by jeffrey on May 26, 2024 16:39:26 GMT -5
Would you admit that blatantly false, anti-scientific and misogynistic information is also spread via legacy media and governments? If so, why focus your hatred on a podcast host instead of those that actually have some control of your life? I'm not supporting any legacy media or government who shares anti-scientific or misogynistic views. About the veracity of "official information"... that's a different and more difficult topic that is entangled with propaganda and politics. Do you support podcast hosts who spread conspiracy theories? I understand you believe people that you determine are dangerous should not he allowed to speak freely. But have you forgotten the overwhelming evil/violence that’s taken place throughout history when one person/side thinks their beliefs are superior and thus, supersede the rights of those that don’t value the same things? If someone committed and has been lawfully convicted of a crime involving sexual predation, human trafficking, etc. they should be confined in a cell for the rest of their lives. Otherwise, yes, I support the right of everyone to publish content, whether I love or despise them. I.e.: I saw Andrew Tate as a guest on a podcast once (didn’t know who he was at the time; think they were calling him by a nickname/alter ego) and found him to be a distasteful, ego-maniac. I’ve never consumed another second of his content and know almost nothing about the allegations against him, except they’re supposedly sexual in nature. If the allegations are true, hopefully he’ll be incarcerated until he dies, but until then I think he should be allowed to podcast.
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Post by matt on May 26, 2024 16:53:26 GMT -5
Half you lot would have said 'give them a chance' in 1933 Germany...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 26, 2024 18:48:39 GMT -5
People will call you a conspiracy theorist and then turn on CNN.
And what about Hunter Biden’s laptop. You were lied to by the media and government officials - 51 of whom bullshitted a letter stating the laptop was ‘Russian Disinformation.’ Because that was 2020, the laptop story was literally suppressed by Big Tech, and anyone who mentioned it was ridiculed.
As it turns out, the laptop legitimately belongs to Hunter and a significant amount of Biden voters would go on to say they wouldn’t have voted for Biden if they knew the truth about the laptop at the time. That’s election interference. You were lied to.
And the Russian Collusion nonsense that the media propagated? You were literally lied to. All the Covid lies spread by Fauci (who should be prosecuted), and Biden himself? How many genders are there? What is a man? What is a woman?
I could go on….
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on May 26, 2024 21:58:10 GMT -5
Genuine question for those on the forum that seem to base your opinions/beliefs on the information your governments and state-sponsored media disseminate. Why would you ever believe anything they’ve told you when there is literally endless examples of lies, corruption, and evil atrocities committed upon citizens for absolute power and financial gain? Allowing government power to go unchecked without questioning motives and uncovering corruption leads to horrific outcomes for citizens, as history has shown with instances of abuse and injustice. Legacy media, often influenced by state interests, fails to provide unbiased and objective information, compromising the public's ability to hold power accountable and make informed decisions. It used to be considered as commendable and necessary for people to seek information for themselves and incorporate that into molding our opinions, but somehow, they’ve conned the majority of people into blindly accepting their propaganda. Our leaders (with minimal exceptions) don’t give a flying fuck about their citizens other than to determine how they can future exploit us for their benefit. Rogan is just a comic, commentator and podcaster that is endlessly curious. He’s an entertainer that supernova’d into the most listened to person on Earth for a reason; people became sick of being told how they’re supposed to feel about every subject and canceled if their opinions differed. Of course a portion of his listeners are absolutely bonkers, but that’s the case for followers of any public figure. I believe it’s an ABSOLUTE MUST for there to be alternative views and opinions espoused, regardless if the views are completely wrong or even somewhat dangerous because if our speech is culled or regulated, we will have zero autonomy over our own lives. Never forget the ACLU fought for the right of neo-nazis to exist/assemble because they understood that if you remove the rights of any subset of the population, at some point, their rights will stripped from them. yes we should have alternate media and views, of course. However, Rogan is up there with Infowars in terms of the mental views he allows to go unchallenged.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on May 26, 2024 23:51:33 GMT -5
People will call you a conspiracy theorist and then turn on CNN. And what about Hunter Biden’s laptop. You were lied to by the media and government officials - 51 of whom bullshitted a letter stating the laptop was ‘Russian Disinformation.’ Because that was 2020, the laptop story was literally suppressed by Big Tech, and anyone who mentioned it was ridiculed. As it turns out, the laptop legitimately belongs to Hunter and a significant amount of Biden voters would go on to say they wouldn’t have voted for Biden if they knew the truth about the laptop at the time. That’s election interference. You were lied to. And the Russian Collusion nonsense that the media propagated? You were literally lied to. All the Covid lies spread by Fauci (who should be prosecuted), and Biden himself? How many genders are there? What is a man? What is a woman? I could go on…. You believe a 7 time bankrupt Putin butt kisser. Even Assange said it
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