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Post by darmin on Aug 14, 2024 3:56:11 GMT -5
Some prefers his angelic pre-95, some - his raw RnR voice post 95, I love both bc both these periods was outstanding vocal wise
Noel’s vocals were always mediocre tho so I can’t understand how you can like his version more lol
Anyway…
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 14, 2024 5:32:24 GMT -5
It’s interesting to hear but I prefer Noel’s version. It’s the type of song that suits Noel better in the same way only Liam could pull off a RnR Star or a Bring it On Down. There’s more emotion and melancholy in Noel’s vocals.
But anyway, it’s great to have it and I’m sure there are loads who will prefer it.
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Post by The Chief on Aug 14, 2024 10:08:20 GMT -5
Not a fan of that one. It's a bit too slow and I also think this shows that Liam didn't systematically make songs great. This song is beautiful in itself but this version is a little boring and his singing is not very good. I do like the little guitar part that this version has though.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Aug 14, 2024 15:11:31 GMT -5
Angelic! 🪽 It’s a crime that was released only as a demo so many years later… Exactly, but better late than never. Liam sounds like an angel. <3 |
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Post by Goosey on Aug 14, 2024 15:26:27 GMT -5
I love the Acoustic Sessions version, but it always annoyed me the way he sang “if you’re honest”, always thought it sounded like a mistake.
Now we know why, he was it like this version. Which suggests LG either remembered singing it that way in 92, or has access to the old tapes
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 14, 2024 15:28:38 GMT -5
Great demo. Very interesting comparing it to the released version.
One aspect I don't think enough is being made about is the Nov 1992 date. This goes some way as to help bridge a somewhat unknown period in Oasis history which we don't know enough about. Only 4 months earlier were the band playing 'Take Me' at The Blackpool Roadshow. Other than that the last setlist we know for sure is on the 14 Jan 1992 (please don't link me setlist.fm - anyone can make stuff up). Liam's vocals have come on leaps from January of that year (this is probably in part due to Liam singing the songs very low in his register, something Noel admitted he later realized he had to rectify).
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Aug 14, 2024 15:41:36 GMT -5
Great demo. Very interesting comparing it to the released version. One aspect I don't think enough is being made about is the Nov 1992 date. This goes some way as to help bridge a somewhat unknown period in Oasis history which we don't know enough about. Only 4 months earlier were the band playing 'Take Me' at The Blackpool Roadshow. Other than that the last setlist we know for sure is on the 14 Jan 1992 (please don't link me setlist.fm - anyone can make stuff up). Liam's vocals have come on leaps from January of that year (this is probably in part due to Liam singing the songs very low in his register, something Noel admitted he later realized he had to rectify). Curious...what's the approximate date of that Noel notebook with all the song lyrics and provisional album track listings? Still trying to figure out when Noel wrote all those songs. Seems like he had them written way earlier than what's said in the Supersonic doc or in interviews. I always thought 1993 and early 1994. |
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Post by carl80 on Aug 14, 2024 16:07:05 GMT -5
Great demo. Very interesting comparing it to the released version. One aspect I don't think enough is being made about is the Nov 1992 date. This goes some way as to help bridge a somewhat unknown period in Oasis history which we don't know enough about. Only 4 months earlier were the band playing 'Take Me' at The Blackpool Roadshow. Other than that the last setlist we know for sure is on the 14 Jan 1992 (please don't link me setlist.fm - anyone can make stuff up). Liam's vocals have come on leaps from January of that year (this is probably in part due to Liam singing the songs very low in his register, something Noel admitted he later realized he had to rectify). That 14 Jan 1992 date was the boardwalk wasn’t it ? I’m still pretty stunned we have an official release of a demo that early on , on a boxset to be honest, I never thought that Liam Sad Song version would see the light of day with the track record they have of releasing stuff, hopefully serves well for MG Glory next year too. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 14, 2024 16:08:47 GMT -5
Great demo. Very interesting comparing it to the released version. One aspect I don't think enough is being made about is the Nov 1992 date. This goes some way as to help bridge a somewhat unknown period in Oasis history which we don't know enough about. Only 4 months earlier were the band playing 'Take Me' at The Blackpool Roadshow. Other than that the last setlist we know for sure is on the 14 Jan 1992 (please don't link me setlist.fm - anyone can make stuff up). Liam's vocals have come on leaps from January of that year (this is probably in part due to Liam singing the songs very low in his register, something Noel admitted he later realized he had to rectify). Curious...what's the approximate date of that Noel notebook with all the song lyrics and provisional album track listings? Still trying to figure out when Noel wrote all those songs. Seems like he had them written way earlier than what's said in the Supersonic doc or in interviews. I always thought 1993 and early 1994. The song and tracklists are dated somewhere between Jun 93 and early Dec 93 but that window covers the very maximum range, it's probably a bit narrower than that. Some (potentially all) of the lyric sheets will fit within that window too but cannot I cannot be too definitive about that. I wouldn't be surprised if a few were a little earlier. Off the top of my head here's a quick summary for the DM songs (that they released)... 1. 'Columbia' (Instrumental) - 1991 (early Jan 1992 at the latest) 2. 'Sad Song', 'Married with Children', 'D'Yer Wanna be a Spaceman?', 'Rock 'N' Roll Star', 'Bring It On Down', 'Cloudburst', 'Fade Away', 'Up In the Sky' - All predate The Real People sessions (spring 1993). Sad Song demoed Nov 1992. 'Rock 'N' Roll Star' and 'Bring It On Down' were supposedly first debuted live Jan 1993. 3. 'Columbia', 'Whatever', 'Digsy's Dinner' (?) - All emerge from The Real People sessions (Spring 1993) 4. 'Live Forever' - Jun or July 1993 (I forget which) 5. 'Cigarettes & Alcohol', 'Half the World Away' - Summer 1993 6. 'Shakermaker' - September 1993 7. 'Supersonic' - Dec 1993 8. 'Slide Away' - Jan 1994 'I Will Believe', 'Take Me Away' and 'Alive' were written Summer 1993 at the very latest (I expect the latter was much earlier). I think 'It's Good to Be Free' was in this camp too but it may have been a little later - I forget off the top of my head. The lyrics got rewritten a few of times, right through 1994 I think. 'Listen Up' is hard to define. It may have been the last to have been written. Sometime after 'Shakermaker'. One day I'll get around to released a proper list with all the sources and evidence laid out and all the other songs included too. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 14, 2024 16:11:26 GMT -5
Great demo. Very interesting comparing it to the released version. One aspect I don't think enough is being made about is the Nov 1992 date. This goes some way as to help bridge a somewhat unknown period in Oasis history which we don't know enough about. Only 4 months earlier were the band playing 'Take Me' at The Blackpool Roadshow. Other than that the last setlist we know for sure is on the 14 Jan 1992 (please don't link me setlist.fm - anyone can make stuff up). Liam's vocals have come on leaps from January of that year (this is probably in part due to Liam singing the songs very low in his register, something Noel admitted he later realized he had to rectify). That 14 Jan 1992 date was the boardwalk wasn’t it ? I’m still pretty stunned we have an official release of a demo that early on , on a boxset to be honest, I never thought that Liam Sad Song version would see the light of day with the track record they have of releasing stuff, hopefully serves well for MG Glory next year too. Correct. Probably because it was self recorded, but yeah, we're lucky to have that relic. |
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Post by carl80 on Aug 14, 2024 16:29:56 GMT -5
That 14 Jan 1992 date was the boardwalk wasn’t it ? I’m still pretty stunned we have an official release of a demo that early on , on a boxset to be honest, I never thought that Liam Sad Song version would see the light of day with the track record they have of releasing stuff, hopefully serves well for MG Glory next year too. Correct. Probably because it was self recorded, but yeah, we're lucky to have that relic. It doesn’t actually sound like a self recorded home demo , sounds like it could have had some work on it elsewhere with the echo on Liam's voice, anyway glad we finally have it. |
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Post by carlober on Aug 14, 2024 16:30:38 GMT -5
Curious...what's the approximate date of that Noel notebook with all the song lyrics and provisional album track listings? Still trying to figure out when Noel wrote all those songs. Seems like he had them written way earlier than what's said in the Supersonic doc or in interviews. I always thought 1993 and early 1994. The song and tracklists are dated somewhere between Jun 93 and early Dec 93 but that window covers the very maximum range, it's probably a bit narrower than that. Some (potentially all) of the lyric sheets will fit within that window too but cannot I cannot be too definitive about that. I wouldn't be surprised if a few were a little earlier. Off the top of my head here's a quick summary for the DM songs (that they released)... 1. 'Columbia' (Instrumental) - 1991 (early Jan 1992 at the latest) 2. 'Sad Song', 'Married with Children', 'D'Yer Wanna be a Spaceman?', 'Rock 'N' Roll Star', 'Bring It On Down', 'Cloudburst', 'Fade Away', 'Up In the Sky' - All predate The Real People sessions (spring 1993). Sad Song demoed Nov 1992. 'Rock 'N' Roll Star' and 'Bring It On Down' were supposedly first debuted live Jan 1993. 3. 'Columbia', 'Whatever', 'Digsy's Dinner' (?) - All emerge from The Real People sessions (Spring 1993) 4. 'Live Forever' - Jun or July 1993 (I forget which) 5. 'Cigarettes & Alcohol', 'Half the World Away' - Summer 1993 6. 'Shakermaker' - September 1993 7. 'Supersonic' - Dec 1993 8. 'Slide Away' - Jan 1994 'I Will Believe', 'Take Me Away' and 'Alive' were written Summer 1993 at the very latest (I expect the latter was much earlier). I think 'It's Good to Be Free' was in this camp too but it may have been a little later - I forget off the top of my head. The lyrics got rewritten a few of times, right through 1994 I think. 'Listen Up' is hard to define. It may have been the last to have been written. Sometime after 'Shakermaker'. One day I'll get around to released a proper list with all the sources and evidence laid out and all the other songs included too. Posts like this are the main reason why I fucking love this forum and its users. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 14, 2024 17:02:49 GMT -5
The song and tracklists are dated somewhere between Jun 93 and early Dec 93 but that window covers the very maximum range, it's probably a bit narrower than that. Some (potentially all) of the lyric sheets will fit within that window too but cannot I cannot be too definitive about that. I wouldn't be surprised if a few were a little earlier. Off the top of my head here's a quick summary for the DM songs (that they released)... 1. 'Columbia' (Instrumental) - 1991 (early Jan 1992 at the latest) 2. 'Sad Song', 'Married with Children', 'D'Yer Wanna be a Spaceman?', 'Rock 'N' Roll Star', 'Bring It On Down', 'Cloudburst', 'Fade Away', 'Up In the Sky' - All predate The Real People sessions (spring 1993). Sad Song demoed Nov 1992. 'Rock 'N' Roll Star' and 'Bring It On Down' were supposedly first debuted live Jan 1993. 3. 'Columbia', 'Whatever', 'Digsy's Dinner' (?) - All emerge from The Real People sessions (Spring 1993) 4. 'Live Forever' - Jun or July 1993 (I forget which) 5. 'Cigarettes & Alcohol', 'Half the World Away' - Summer 1993 6. 'Shakermaker' - September 1993 7. 'Supersonic' - Dec 1993 8. 'Slide Away' - Jan 1994 'I Will Believe', 'Take Me Away' and 'Alive' were written Summer 1993 at the very latest (I expect the latter was much earlier). I think 'It's Good to Be Free' was in this camp too but it may have been a little later - I forget off the top of my head. The lyrics got rewritten a few of times, right through 1994 I think. 'Listen Up' is hard to define. It may have been the last to have been written. Sometime after 'Shakermaker'. One day I'll get around to released a proper list with all the sources and evidence laid out and all the other songs included too. Posts like this are the main reason why I fucking love this forum and its users. Thanks! Just because of your lovely comment here are a few bonus titbits I can quickly recall, some you might already know, but maybe not... - 'Columbia' and 'Fade Away' lift from contemporary songs. These songs could not have been written earlier than their source material. 'Tortuga' by Axe Corner was released in 1991 (which I'm sure you know already 'Columbia' lifts from) and 'Believer' by The Real People was released in 1992 (from which a portion of melody is lifted and fused with 'Freedom' by Wham). - The main strings line in 'Whatever' was written by one of the Griffith brothers. Noel wrote the song around it and never bothered to credited them. - Despite 'Digsy's Dinner' regularly being listed as the worst song on Definitely Maybe it features in every single theoretical tracklist (that we know of) that Noel wrote for the album. Clearly Noel was a big fan of it. On the flip side 'Half the World Away' never featured once. |
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Post by scorpiosonic on Aug 14, 2024 17:58:03 GMT -5
Posts like this are the main reason why I fucking love this forum and its users. Thanks! Just because of your lovely comment here are a few bonus titbits I can quickly recall, some you might already know, but maybe not... - 'Columbia' and 'Fade Away' lift from contemporary songs. These songs could not have been written earlier than their source material. 'Tortuga' by Axe Corner was released in 1991 (which I'm sure you know already 'Columbia' lifts from) and 'Believer' by The Real People was released in 1992 (from which a portion of melody is lifted and fused with 'Freedom' by Wham). - The main strings line in 'Whatever' was written by one of the Griffith brothers. Noel wrote the song around it and never bothered to credited them. - Despite 'Digsy's Dinner' regularly being listed as the worst song on Definitely Maybe it features in every single theoretical tracklist (that we know of) that Noel wrote for the album. Clearly Noel was a big fan of it. On the flip side 'Half the World Away' never featured once. man this was incredible to read, thank you |
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Post by settingson on Aug 14, 2024 22:00:49 GMT -5
Curious...what's the approximate date of that Noel notebook with all the song lyrics and provisional album track listings? Still trying to figure out when Noel wrote all those songs. Seems like he had them written way earlier than what's said in the Supersonic doc or in interviews. I always thought 1993 and early 1994. The song and tracklists are dated somewhere between Jun 93 and early Dec 93 but that window covers the very maximum range, it's probably a bit narrower than that. Some (potentially all) of the lyric sheets will fit within that window too but cannot I cannot be too definitive about that. I wouldn't be surprised if a few were a little earlier. Off the top of my head here's a quick summary for the DM songs (that they released)... 1. 'Columbia' (Instrumental) - 1991 (early Jan 1992 at the latest) 2. 'Sad Song', 'Married with Children', 'D'Yer Wanna be a Spaceman?', 'Rock 'N' Roll Star', 'Bring It On Down', 'Cloudburst', 'Fade Away', 'Up In the Sky' - All predate The Real People sessions (spring 1993). Sad Song demoed Nov 1992. 'Rock 'N' Roll Star' and 'Bring It On Down' were supposedly first debuted live Jan 1993. 3. 'Columbia', 'Whatever', 'Digsy's Dinner' (?) - All emerge from The Real People sessions (Spring 1993) 4. 'Live Forever' - Jun or July 1993 (I forget which) 5. 'Cigarettes & Alcohol', 'Half the World Away' - Summer 1993 6. 'Shakermaker' - September 1993 7. 'Supersonic' - Dec 1993 8. 'Slide Away' - Jan 1994 'I Will Believe', 'Take Me Away' and 'Alive' were written Summer 1993 at the very latest (I expect the latter was much earlier). I think 'It's Good to Be Free' was in this camp too but it may have been a little later - I forget off the top of my head. The lyrics got rewritten a few of times, right through 1994 I think. 'Listen Up' is hard to define. It may have been the last to have been written. Sometime after 'Shakermaker'. One day I'll get around to released a proper list with all the sources and evidence laid out and all the other songs included too.
So this Quattro soundcheck is legit? I came to Oasis a bit later, so I've never been clear exactly when Noel wrote a lot of these early songs.
Some he clearly held onto for a while before unleashing them on the world 
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Post by morning_rain on Aug 15, 2024 2:40:53 GMT -5
Posts like this are the main reason why I fucking love this forum and its users. Thanks! Just because of your lovely comment here are a few bonus titbits I can quickly recall, some you might already know, but maybe not... - 'Columbia' and 'Fade Away' lift from contemporary songs. These songs could not have been written earlier than their source material. 'Tortuga' by Axe Corner was released in 1991 (which I'm sure you know already 'Columbia' lifts from) and 'Believer' by The Real People was released in 1992 (from which a portion of melody is lifted and fused with 'Freedom' by Wham). - The main strings line in 'Whatever' was written by one of the Griffith brothers. Noel wrote the song around it and never bothered to credited them. - Despite 'Digsy's Dinner' regularly being listed as the worst song on Definitely Maybe it features in every single theoretical tracklist (that we know of) that Noel wrote for the album. Clearly Noel was a big fan of it. On the flip side 'Half the World Away' never featured once. I'd really wish you'd write a book about this someday. |
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Post by carlober on Aug 15, 2024 3:09:38 GMT -5
The Crimson Rambler, regarding early Oasis acoustic "demos" & tracks, is this list correct or am I missing something here? Recorded at Mauldeth Road West (1992-1993)All Around The World (Coyley Demo) D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman (B-side to Shakermaker) Going Nowhere (Demo) Hello (Demo) Married With Children (demo with maracas & back vox) Married With Children (album Version) Rockin' Chair (Demo) Sad Song (Mauldeth Road West Demo, Nov '92) She's Electric (Demo) Recorded at Club Quattro Soundcheck (Sept. 14 1994)Bonehead's Bank Holiday (Demo) Don't Go Away (Demo) Hey Now (Demo) Some Might Say (Demo) Stand by Me (Demo)
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Post by carl80 on Aug 15, 2024 5:12:33 GMT -5
The Crimson Rambler, regarding early Oasis acoustic "demos" & tracks, is this list correct or am I missing something here? Recorded at Mauldeth Road West (1992-1993)All Around The World (Coyley Demo) D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman (B-side to Shakermaker) Going Nowhere (Demo) Hello (Demo) Married With Children (demo with maracas & back vox) Married With Children (album Version) Rockin' Chair (Demo) Sad Song (Mauldeth Road West Demo, Nov '92) She's Electric (Demo) Recorded at Club Quattro Soundcheck (Sept. 14 1994)Bonehead's Bank Holiday (Demo) Don't Go Away (Demo) Hey Now (Demo) Some Might Say (Demo) Stand by Me (Demo) Which tracks recorded at Mauldeth Rd west where on the 2014 re issues mate ? I know there was one or two as Japan only bonus tracks. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 15, 2024 6:44:03 GMT -5
Correct. Probably because it was self recorded, but yeah, we're lucky to have that relic. It doesn’t actually sound like a self recorded home demo , sounds like it could have had some work on it elsewhere with the echo on Liam's voice, anyway glad we finally have it. My first impression if im honest. To me the guitar has way too much sonic clarity to just sound like a home demo. Theres probably been some echo put on the entire thing, including the vocal. |
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Post by standonit on Aug 15, 2024 6:54:44 GMT -5
It doesn’t actually sound like a self recorded home demo , sounds like it could have had some work on it elsewhere with the echo on Liam's voice, anyway glad we finally have it. My first impression if im honest. To me the guitar has way too much sonic clarity to just sound like a home demo. Theres probably been some echo put on the entire thing, including the vocal. It's been mixed by Noel and Callum recently for this release, so I expect there's been some general EQ/reverb/etc applied to it at that stage. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 15, 2024 7:02:40 GMT -5
My first impression if im honest. To me the guitar has way too much sonic clarity to just sound like a home demo. Theres probably been some echo put on the entire thing, including the vocal. It's been mixed by Noel and Callum recently for this release, so I expect there's been some general EQ/reverb/etc applied to it at that stage. Oh yes Id read that theyd done some mixing work for the reissue, but I thought they might leave demos alone. As the idea of them is often to show where the beginnings of a song lie, and allow fans to hear them in that primitive form. Slapping too many effects on them is basically just like making an acoustic album. Still, I do like it. Not perfect, but thats the idea. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 15, 2024 13:55:10 GMT -5
The song and tracklists are dated somewhere between Jun 93 and early Dec 93 but that window covers the very maximum range, it's probably a bit narrower than that. Some (potentially all) of the lyric sheets will fit within that window too but cannot I cannot be too definitive about that. I wouldn't be surprised if a few were a little earlier. Off the top of my head here's a quick summary for the DM songs (that they released)... 1. 'Columbia' (Instrumental) - 1991 (early Jan 1992 at the latest) 2. 'Sad Song', 'Married with Children', 'D'Yer Wanna be a Spaceman?', 'Rock 'N' Roll Star', 'Bring It On Down', 'Cloudburst', 'Fade Away', 'Up In the Sky' - All predate The Real People sessions (spring 1993). Sad Song demoed Nov 1992. 'Rock 'N' Roll Star' and 'Bring It On Down' were supposedly first debuted live Jan 1993. 3. 'Columbia', 'Whatever', 'Digsy's Dinner' (?) - All emerge from The Real People sessions (Spring 1993) 4. 'Live Forever' - Jun or July 1993 (I forget which) 5. 'Cigarettes & Alcohol', 'Half the World Away' - Summer 1993 6. 'Shakermaker' - September 1993 7. 'Supersonic' - Dec 1993 8. 'Slide Away' - Jan 1994 'I Will Believe', 'Take Me Away' and 'Alive' were written Summer 1993 at the very latest (I expect the latter was much earlier). I think 'It's Good to Be Free' was in this camp too but it may have been a little later - I forget off the top of my head. The lyrics got rewritten a few of times, right through 1994 I think. 'Listen Up' is hard to define. It may have been the last to have been written. Sometime after 'Shakermaker'. One day I'll get around to released a proper list with all the sources and evidence laid out and all the other songs included too.
So this Quattro soundcheck is legit? I came to Oasis a bit later, so I've never been clear exactly when Noel wrote a lot of these early songs.
Some he clearly held onto for a while before unleashing them on the world Yeah they were released as part of the Chasing The Sun reissues. A quick summary of songs being written before their time... 'Hello', 'She's Electric', 'Rockin' Chair', 'Headshrinker', 'Don't Go Away', 'All Around the World' and 'Going Nowhere' were all written in 1993. 'Morning Glory', 'Acquiesce' and 'My Sister Lover' were partially written in 1993. 'Stand By Me' was written in 1994 and 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)' was partially written in 1994 too. Noel was writing out tracklists for a theoretical 2nd album before the band even began recording Definitely Maybe. Thanks! Just because of your lovely comment here are a few bonus titbits I can quickly recall, some you might already know, but maybe not... - 'Columbia' and 'Fade Away' lift from contemporary songs. These songs could not have been written earlier than their source material. 'Tortuga' by Axe Corner was released in 1991 (which I'm sure you know already 'Columbia' lifts from) and 'Believer' by The Real People was released in 1992 (from which a portion of melody is lifted and fused with 'Freedom' by Wham). - The main strings line in 'Whatever' was written by one of the Griffith brothers. Noel wrote the song around it and never bothered to credited them. - Despite 'Digsy's Dinner' regularly being listed as the worst song on Definitely Maybe it features in every single theoretical tracklist (that we know of) that Noel wrote for the album. Clearly Noel was a big fan of it. On the flip side 'Half the World Away' never featured once. I'd really wish you'd write a book about this someday. Thanks for your kind words. It has crossed my mind before but it'd be too much work for me to do on my own in the little spare time I have. The current plan is to simply upload everything on this forum in a dedicated thread when it's thoroughly collated. The Crimson Rambler , regarding early Oasis acoustic "demos" & tracks, is this list correct or am I missing something here? Recorded at Mauldeth Road West (1992-1993)All Around The World (Coyley Demo) D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman (B-side to Shakermaker) Going Nowhere (Demo) Hello (Demo) Married With Children (demo with maracas & back vox) Married With Children (album Version) Rockin' Chair (Demo) Sad Song (Mauldeth Road West Demo, Nov '92) She's Electric (Demo) Recorded at Club Quattro Soundcheck (Sept. 14 1994)Bonehead's Bank Holiday (Demo) Don't Go Away (Demo) Hey Now (Demo) Some Might Say (Demo) Stand by Me (Demo) I'm not sure if it was ever clarified where the 'All Around the World' demo was recorded or who by unfortunately. I'd be very happy for someone to tell me otherwise though. Otherwise the Mauldeth Road West demos look good to me. If we were to assume the demo to 'She's Electric' is the one namechecked in the below quote then we have a November 1993 date for it. If you listen to the 'She's Electric', 'Hello', 'Rockin' Chair' and 'Going Nowhere' demos they sound like they were recorded at the same session, which would make some sense as they were all written summer/autumn 1993. The Club Quattro recordings are all correct. I do wonder if they specifically were recorded as demos at the time or whether they were retrospectively given that title though. |
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Post by asimarx on Aug 15, 2024 14:17:48 GMT -5
So this Quattro soundcheck is legit? I came to Oasis a bit later, so I've never been clear exactly when Noel wrote a lot of these early songs.
Some he clearly held onto for a while before unleashing them on the world Yeah they were released as part of the Chasing The Sun reissues. A quick summary of songs being written before their time... 'Hello', 'She's Electric', 'Rockin' Chair', 'Headshrinker', 'Don't Go Away', 'All Around the World' and 'Going Nowhere' were all written in 1993. 'Morning Glory', 'Acquiesce' and 'My Sister Lover' were partially written in 1993. 'Stand By Me' was written in 1994 and 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)' was partially written in 1994 too. Noel was writing out tracklists for a theoretical 2nd album before the band even began recording Definitely Maybe. I'd really wish you'd write a book about this someday. Thanks for your kind words. It has crossed my mind before but it'd be too much work for me to do on my own in the little spare time I have. The current plan is to simply upload everything on this forum in a dedicated thread when it's thoroughly collated. The Crimson Rambler , regarding early Oasis acoustic "demos" & tracks, is this list correct or am I missing something here? Recorded at Mauldeth Road West (1992-1993)All Around The World (Coyley Demo) D'Yer Wanna Be a Spaceman (B-side to Shakermaker) Going Nowhere (Demo) Hello (Demo) Married With Children (demo with maracas & back vox) Married With Children (album Version) Rockin' Chair (Demo) Sad Song (Mauldeth Road West Demo, Nov '92) She's Electric (Demo) Recorded at Club Quattro Soundcheck (Sept. 14 1994)Bonehead's Bank Holiday (Demo) Don't Go Away (Demo) Hey Now (Demo) Some Might Say (Demo) Stand by Me (Demo) I'm not sure if it was ever clarified where the 'All Around the World' demo was recorded or who by unfortunately. I'd be very happy for someone to tell me otherwise though. Otherwise the Mauldeth Road West demos look good to me. If we were to assume the demo to 'She's Electric' is the one namechecked in the below quote then we have a November 1993 date for it. If you listen to the 'She's Electric', 'Hello', 'Rockin' Chair' and 'Going Nowhere' demos they sound like they were recorded at the same session, which would make some sense as they were all written summer/autumn 1993. The Club Quattro recordings are all correct. I do wonder if they specifically were recorded as demos at the time or whether they were retrospectively given that title though. I do love this post in an almost ambigious way. Just one thing, it might just be my hearing perception: The Don't Go Away demo from the BHN reissue does sound like it was recorded in the studio and very unlike the other reverb drenched Club Quattro-Soundcheck recordings. Also there's this comment by Noel in the end ("where has everybody gone"). You know it was included on an 93 demo tape under the title "Need More Time" (not to be confused with She's Eletric and confirmed by oasisdna who owns it). But I think the version we have us is a later recording. My guess or rather imagination going wild is that it was recorded during the MG sessions at Rockfield. There's this quote from Owen Morris that one night after the actual sessions, Noel had started to play songs he intended for the 3rd album on his acoustic and he specifically mentioned Don't Go Away, Stand by Me and All Around the World, I think. |
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Post by Casino Boogie on Aug 15, 2024 14:26:04 GMT -5
During those Chasing The Sun exhibitions there was a track sheet for Married With Children from the Out of the Blue sessions in October 1993 when they recorded Shakermaker. It indicated they mixed Married With Children with the extra percussion at that session. There was also a track sheet for the Columbia White Label Demo version.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Aug 15, 2024 14:37:39 GMT -5
Yeah they were released as part of the Chasing The Sun reissues. A quick summary of songs being written before their time... 'Hello', 'She's Electric', 'Rockin' Chair', 'Headshrinker', 'Don't Go Away', 'All Around the World' and 'Going Nowhere' were all written in 1993. 'Morning Glory', 'Acquiesce' and 'My Sister Lover' were partially written in 1993. 'Stand By Me' was written in 1994 and 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)' was partially written in 1994 too. Noel was writing out tracklists for a theoretical 2nd album before the band even began recording Definitely Maybe. Thanks for your kind words. It has crossed my mind before but it'd be too much work for me to do on my own in the little spare time I have. The current plan is to simply upload everything on this forum in a dedicated thread when it's thoroughly collated. I'm not sure if it was ever clarified where the 'All Around the World' demo was recorded or who by unfortunately. I'd be very happy for someone to tell me otherwise though. Otherwise the Mauldeth Road West demos look good to me. If we were to assume the demo to 'She's Electric' is the one namechecked in the below quote then we have a November 1993 date for it. If you listen to the 'She's Electric', 'Hello', 'Rockin' Chair' and 'Going Nowhere' demos they sound like they were recorded at the same session, which would make some sense as they were all written summer/autumn 1993. The Club Quattro recordings are all correct. I do wonder if they specifically were recorded as demos at the time or whether they were retrospectively given that title though. I do love this post in an almost ambigious way. Just one thing, it might just be my hearing perception: The Don't Go Away demo from the BHN reissue does sound like it was recorded in the studio and very unlike the other reverb drenched Club Quattro-Soundcheck recordings. Also there's this comment by Noel in the end ("where has everybody gone"). You know it was included on an 93 demo tape under the title "Need More Time" (not to be confused with She's Eletric and confirmed by oasisdna who owns it). But I think the version we have us is a later recording. My guess or rather imagination going wild is that it was recorded during the MG sessions at Rockfield. There's this quote from Owen Morris that one night after the actual sessions, Noel had started to play songs he intended for the 3rd album on his acoustic and he specifically mentioned Don't Go Away, Stand by Me and All Around the World, I think. Hey asimarx. I think you're indeed correct. I find it hard to believe that 'Don't Go Away' wasn't recorded elsewhere, contrary to what has been officially put out there. I'd separate it off carlober . I'd be tempted to refer to the others as "soundcheck recordings" or something to that effect instead of demos too. |
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