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Post by glider on Jul 14, 2024 18:11:20 GMT -5
I like the more garage grungy feel of this one - but it's missing the higher fade up on Bonehead's guitar and thunderous overdubs which makes the track. The album version just sounds all conquering.
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Post by jezza2 on Jul 14, 2024 18:38:39 GMT -5
It's too slow. I feel like Up In The Sky needs to be fast. You can hear some live elements too. Noel joining Liam for some "hey, you!" bits was something he did during the Definitely Maybe tour.
It's like a 6/10 for me. The eventual release is much better.
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Post by schorman on Jul 14, 2024 20:47:50 GMT -5
Isn't the original varispeeded (varisped?). It was likely recorded a bit slower than the track ended up.
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Post by NicOasis on Jul 15, 2024 2:56:40 GMT -5
Demo ass sounding song
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Post by carlober on Jul 15, 2024 3:30:29 GMT -5
Isn't the original varispeeded (varisped?). It was likely recorded a bit slower than the track ended up. It was definitely varispeeded. Quoting davidjay: In an interview he gave to Q magazine in 2010 producer Owen Morris confirmed that he varispeeded his mixes of Definitely Maybe, usually speeding each track up slightly to a place he felt was more exciting. For the album he remixed Slide Away from the multitrack Oasis had recorded at Monnow Valley studio with Dave Batchelor. Owen's final mix of this track was sped up by 2.9%, hence the raised tempo and pitch. The earlier mix of this same multitrack recording (done by Anjali Dutt at Eden Studios) is at the originally recorded speed and pitch. |
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Post by beentherenow on Jul 15, 2024 3:34:03 GMT -5
I really quite like that Up in the Sky version. Don’t get me wrong I prefer the album version but it’s got a really nice Rain/Paperback Writer feel to it.
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Post by carlober on Jul 15, 2024 3:44:40 GMT -5
I get why the band and everyone around them were disappointed with the sound of the Monnow Valley recordings: this version of Up In the Sky sound very polished anc crisp clear, but it lacks urgency and that distinctive early-Oasis growl.
It is very good though: it sounds a lot more Beatles-esque and the acoustic outro is gorgeous.
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Post by carl80 on Jul 15, 2024 5:18:46 GMT -5
I get why the band and everyone around them were disappointed with the sound of the Monnow Valley recordings: this version of Up In the Sky sound very polished anc crisp clear, but it lacks urgency and that distinctive early-Oasis growl. It is very good though: it sounds a lot more Beatles-esque and the acoustic outro is gorgeous. Agree mate, that Acoustic outro is great. It’s not on the Level of the album version but it’s a great Alt version. |
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Post by Bellboy on Jul 15, 2024 5:32:49 GMT -5
I like the more garage grungy feel of this one - but it's missing the higher fade up on Bonehead's guitar and thunderous overdubs which makes the track. The album version just sounds all conquering. Interesting backing vocals on this 1 though...very Morning Glory era |
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Post by andymorris on Jul 15, 2024 8:26:05 GMT -5
Up in the Sky was always a filler anyway, was expecting something really bad. Its just demo sounding, especially the drums and the overall mix.
Its weird though because it sounds less 94-ish than the released version. More modern. A bit like a demo from BHN.
But yeah, there were better songs that ended up on bside.
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Post by matt on Jul 15, 2024 19:31:25 GMT -5
I like the more garage grungy feel of this one - but it's missing the higher fade up on Bonehead's guitar and thunderous overdubs which makes the track. The album version just sounds all conquering. This sounds very 'indie pop'. Too clean to what we're used to, but worth it alone for Liams voice that really stands out front and centre. |
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Post by matt on Jul 15, 2024 19:32:57 GMT -5
Isn't the original varispeeded (varisped?). It was likely recorded a bit slower than the track ended up. It was definitely varispeeded. Quoting davidjay: In an interview he gave to Q magazine in 2010 producer Owen Morris confirmed that he varispeeded his mixes of Definitely Maybe, usually speeding each track up slightly to a place he felt was more exciting. For the album he remixed Slide Away from the multitrack Oasis had recorded at Monnow Valley studio with Dave Batchelor. Owen's final mix of this track was sped up by 2.9%, hence the raised tempo and pitch. The earlier mix of this same multitrack recording (done by Anjali Dutt at Eden Studios) is at the originally recorded speed and pitch. I think Noel could use varispeed to inject some life into his drab recordings of late. If he's gonna continue with meat and potatoes guitar sounds, he should rehire Owen. It's a surprise how many Oasis and Noel songs are immensely improved when its slightly lifted in tempo and pitch. A shame as they make so many good songs sound drab. |
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 16, 2024 4:32:44 GMT -5
I prefer the fast, rough and fun version we got on DM, it was the right choice for the song.
But I'm glad we have the Monnow Valley version too, it's heavier and as people pointed out somehow Liam sounds like he does in WTSMG. The backing vocals add a very interesting layer on the verses and I really like the acoustic outro.
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Post by Bellboy on Jul 16, 2024 4:50:13 GMT -5
I noticed it says on the Youtube description Noel Gallagher new mix...could he have added new stuff so it's actually not what the Monovalley version sounded like?
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 16, 2024 6:36:35 GMT -5
Loving this new version of Up In The Sky. Seeing Supersonic tonight in Imax  Good way to get hyped for DM30. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jul 16, 2024 7:13:39 GMT -5
I noticed it says on the Youtube description Noel Gallagher new mix...could he have added new stuff so it's actually not what the Monovalley version sounded like? Doubt there’s anything new added to the tracks but the mixing is new. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 16, 2024 11:16:09 GMT -5
That acoustic ending gives me La’s vibes.
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Post by thomuk2006 on Jul 16, 2024 12:26:15 GMT -5
I noticed it says on the Youtube description Noel Gallagher new mix...could he have added new stuff so it's actually not what the Monovalley version sounded like? I was thinking the same, some of the backing vocals sound very Noel 2024. |
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Post by mahsteve on Jul 16, 2024 12:35:54 GMT -5
Must say I’m absolutely loving the new versions of Columbia and up in the sky from sawmills and Monow Valley.
I love the album versions and rightly so they were the final versions released it’s just great to hear something different.
Was hoping they were going to release more around each single like they did with supersonic at the limelight.
I was a bit cynical when the promotion started for the DM 30 release but am very happy to be proved wrong!
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Post by deadman on Jul 16, 2024 12:46:25 GMT -5
I prefer this version of Up In The Sky to the album version which never really clicked with me. Even that rough sounding bootleg of the Loco Studios demo sounded better to me.
If anyone has an upgrade of those Loco Studio demos (Up In The Sky and Digsy'd Dinner), would love to hear them. Sure we could get a community whip round for a big upgrade.
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Post by Jim on Jul 16, 2024 14:54:22 GMT -5
I prefer this version of Up In The Sky to the album version which never really clicked with me. Even that rough sounding bootleg of the Loco Studios demo sounded better to me. If anyone has an upgrade of those Loco Studio demos (Up In The Sky and Digsy'd Dinner), would love to hear them. Sure we could get a community whip round for a big upgrade. Would be great to get upgrades of the early tapes as well as the Giants demos. We know there are CDs and tapes for the majority of the Giants demos as they went on sale at the same time many of us got together for the Coming On Strong tape. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Jul 16, 2024 17:33:24 GMT -5
I find the new Monnow Valley version of Up In The Sky quite good, but it admittedly suffers from the exact same issue as basically all the other pre-Owen Morris mixes I’ve heard. It just doesn’t have the intensity.
Liam’s vocal is pretty good even without the falsetto parts, and I like how it’s placed right at the forefront. But the backing track really is thin. Overall it sounds like basically a work in progress. I’m certainly glad they got the chance to do it all again.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 17, 2024 3:42:28 GMT -5
I noticed it says on the Youtube description Noel Gallagher new mix...could he have added new stuff so it's actually not what the Monovalley version sounded like? I was thinking the same, some of the backing vocals sound very Noel 2024. That would be cheating. Usually, when new stuff are added to old versions, they are mentionned clearly. Its just that we're looking at this the wrong angle. Noel buried his poppy side for a more rocknroll side in 94, because that was the sound of the time. It's a "new" mix, with all the old recorded tracks only. But since we didn't know the "old" mix (or did we ?) its hard to tell what's different. |
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 17, 2024 4:32:54 GMT -5
I noticed it says on the Youtube description Noel Gallagher new mix...could he have added new stuff so it's actually not what the Monovalley version sounded like? I was thinking the same, some of the backing vocals sound very Noel 2024. That's interesting. It's hard to tell but it sounds like young Noel to me. I know some artists have recorded new parts for reissues of old albums, Billy Corgan does it with guitar parts, it's not really noticeable but it's there. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 17, 2024 12:51:29 GMT -5
I quite like it but the album version is much better though.
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