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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Apr 3, 2024 14:03:10 GMT -5
Liam looked cool in this era but Noel sounded at his absolute best in the SOTSOG era. This was the time when he really began to be able to sing (listen to him sing at Maine Road or Knebworth and it can be quite painful). However, the way he sings BV's and lead in 2000 is sensational.
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Post by mahsteve on Apr 8, 2024 10:50:29 GMT -5
Some information about when the band were trying to audition bassists to replace Guigsy in 1999. Ex Monaco man David ‘Pottsy’ Potts was close to joining the band in 1999 as replacement for Guigs. Below are some interesting articles about this time. Believe it or not it appears he even contributed to this forum. This article from the NME dated 26th October 1999 mentions him being close to joining. Not much time before the first gig of the US festival tour starting on 3rd December. www.nme.com/news/music/oasis-1161-1393945This thread has a photo of a page from Peter Hook's 'Inside New Order' which details what happened during Pottsy audition with the band live4ever.proboards.com/thread/85655/remember-david-potts-oasis-bassist?page=1Pottsy contributed to the forum to explain in 2018. “Remember people, there's a certain artistic licence used when writing books, and a lot is (definitely maybe) sensationalized. Most comments on this forum/article below are quite complimentary so thank you. One is downright rude... but there are many presumptuous pillocks in this world. Only the people there at the time know what happened, mainly myself, Noel and Gem. I loved Oasis, still do but to quote Roy Walker... It was good but it wasn't right. As for Wonderwall, it just needed a tweek. 😉 X” live4ever.proboards.com/thread/85655/remember-david-potts-oasis-bassist?page=2Pottsy explains what happened in this interview with the Manchester Evening News in 2013 www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music/potty-to-blow-oasis-chance-1048809Never seen this before Andy Reid from Manchester band Plastic Gun Alliance was approached by the Oasis camp to replace Guigsy on bass. Reid finally decided to stay with his own band. www.nme.com/news/music/oasis-1176-1394830 |
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 8, 2024 12:28:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember about Dave Potts was going to join Oasis but I had no idea about Andy Reid being approached by Oasis so thanks for posting.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Apr 9, 2024 1:16:12 GMT -5
Some information about when the band were trying to audition bassists to replace Guigsy in 1999. Ex Monaco man David ‘Pottsy’ Potts was close to joining the band in 1999 as replacement for Guigs. Below are some interesting articles about this time. Believe it or not it appears he even contributed to this forum. This article from the NME dated 26th October 1999 mentions him being close to joining. Not much time before the first gig of the US festival tour starting on 3rd December. www.nme.com/news/music/oasis-1161-1393945This thread has a photo of a page from Peter Hook's 'Inside New Order' which details what happened during Pottsy audition with the band live4ever.proboards.com/thread/85655/remember-david-potts-oasis-bassist?page=1Pottsy contributed to the forum to explain in 2018. “Remember people, there's a certain artistic licence used when writing books, and a lot is (definitely maybe) sensationalized. Most comments on this forum/article below are quite complimentary so thank you. One is downright rude... but there are many presumptuous pillocks in this world. Only the people there at the time know what happened, mainly myself, Noel and Gem. I loved Oasis, still do but to quote Roy Walker... It was good but it wasn't right. As for Wonderwall, it just needed a tweek. 😉 X” live4ever.proboards.com/thread/85655/remember-david-potts-oasis-bassist?page=2Pottsy explains what happened in this interview with the Manchester Evening News in 2013 www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music/potty-to-blow-oasis-chance-1048809Never seen this before Andy Reid from Manchester band Plastic Gun Alliance was approached by the Oasis camp to replace Guigsy on bass. Reid finally decided to stay with his own band. www.nme.com/news/music/oasis-1176-1394830Interesting that Andy Reid decided not to join. It doesn't sound like he was rejected. Maybe he thought that the job was too big for him. |
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Post by mahsteve on Apr 9, 2024 1:53:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know anything more about Andy Reid and the band Plastic Gun Alliance?
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Apr 30, 2024 7:25:12 GMT -5
That would be amazing. I can’t tell you how many times I read that review in high school I guess a month or two before leak/release. Thanks. Thanks a lot in advance, if you can make it happen. Much appreciated. Sorry for the delay in responding, but it took me a few days to go to my mother's house, look for the magazines and scan them... but it's done! Additionally, I have taken the opportunity to scan other magazines from that era that I have found. There is news related to the band, announcements, interviews and SOTSOG reviews. *There are a couple of interviews that came in separate issues of NME and UNCUT magazine, so I have merged them into the same file, as I find it more comfortable to read. Well I hope you enjoy it! www.mediafire.com/file/8itypiagppy075u/Music_Magazines_2000_by_Ajito.zip/fileP.S. Lennon2217 : the track by track review it's the file named "Melody Maker 19.02.2000" P.S.2 "The Fan-ishinquisition" (NME) is really funny. Interesting, that on the Melody Maker's track by track review Noel states that Roll It Over is his favourite song on the album. He clearly loved it at least in that point of his life. Also, the opening gig of the tour in Japan didn't seem to go down too well according to the reviewer, which is quite understandable though, new band members and they were still searching for their sound. Everyone was a bit rusty. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 30, 2024 12:09:57 GMT -5
Sorry for the delay in responding, but it took me a few days to go to my mother's house, look for the magazines and scan them... but it's done! Additionally, I have taken the opportunity to scan other magazines from that era that I have found. There is news related to the band, announcements, interviews and SOTSOG reviews. *There are a couple of interviews that came in separate issues of NME and UNCUT magazine, so I have merged them into the same file, as I find it more comfortable to read. Well I hope you enjoy it! www.mediafire.com/file/8itypiagppy075u/Music_Magazines_2000_by_Ajito.zip/fileP.S. Lennon2217 : the track by track review it's the file named "Melody Maker 19.02.2000" P.S.2 "The Fan-ishinquisition" (NME) is really funny. Interesting, that on the Melody Maker's track by track review Noel states that Roll It Over is his favourite song on the album. He clearly loved it at least in that point of his life. Also, the opening gig of the tour in Japan didn't seem to go down too well according to the reviewer, which is quite understandable though, new band members and they were still searching for their sound. Everyone was a bit rusty. Noel has never said he has a problem with Roll It Over has he? |
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Apr 30, 2024 13:25:14 GMT -5
Interesting, that on the Melody Maker's track by track review Noel states that Roll It Over is his favourite song on the album. He clearly loved it at least in that point of his life. Also, the opening gig of the tour in Japan didn't seem to go down too well according to the reviewer, which is quite understandable though, new band members and they were still searching for their sound. Everyone was a bit rusty. Noel has never said he has a problem with Roll It Over has he? You're right, but in one interview Andy had to remind him about the song. This was shared earlier in this thread. |
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Post by mahsteve on Sept 15, 2024 13:16:12 GMT -5
Julian Taylor from the band Starclub recently appeared on the oasis podcast and stated he had auditioned to be bassist in oasis in 1999 before Andy Bell joined. He almost joined when Guigsy left in 1995. podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-oasis-podcast/id1224373139?i=1000669506491So now we know Julian Taylor from Starclub, Pottsy from the band Monaco and Andy Reid from the band Plastic Gun Alliance all auditioned to join the band as bassist in 1999. The auditions would have taken place at Wheeler End Studios |
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 16, 2024 3:18:09 GMT -5
Love this album. I think if you replace the 2-3 weakest songs on the album with the strongest b-sides from that era and it'd be a classic.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Sept 16, 2024 3:52:08 GMT -5
Julian Taylor from the band Starclub recently appeared on the oasis podcast and stated he had auditioned to be bassist in oasis in 1999 before Andy Bell joined. He almost joined when Guigsy left in 1995. podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-oasis-podcast/id1224373139?i=1000669506491So now we know Julian Taylor from Starclub, Pottsy from the band Monaco and Andy Reid from the band Plastic Gun Alliance all auditioned to join the band as bassist in 1999. The auditions would have taken place at Wheeler End Studios I guess the chemistry wasn't right with those guys and Noel and Liam. |
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Post by World71R on Sept 16, 2024 10:52:09 GMT -5
Love this album. I think if you replace the 2-3 weakest songs on the album with the strongest b-sides from that era and it'd be a classic. Put Little James after Who Feels Love?, Full On and Let's All Make Believe in for Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is, One Way Road in for Sunday Morning Call and then take out I Can See a Liar, and you've got a pretty good album. |
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Post by mahsteve on Sept 18, 2024 13:57:37 GMT -5
Interview with Noel at the Reading Festival on 25th August 2000
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Post by eeztheman on Sept 18, 2024 14:33:31 GMT -5
I do have a soft spot for this album, it certainly has it's clangers on here, but do love the overall vibe of it.
All of my friends at the time hated it as it wasnt DM Mark 2!
But sometimes a change is needed, although this is of course not exactly perfect, it still has it's fair share of great songs on it.......I personally lied the direction of Who Feels Love, and would have liked some more of that ilk really (from what I remember it was in an open G tuning or something similar)
I heard an acoustic-ish version on youtube ages ago and it was great (can't remember the date etc)
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 19, 2024 1:57:24 GMT -5
There was definitely enough good songs from that era to make a better album.
Noel often says now that the songs weren't there. That's fair enough, they're his songs, so I can't say he's wrong, but I personally think there just needed to be 2 or 3 replaced. There was no need to have two Noel songs in a row, especially plodders. One of them could go for a start.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 19, 2024 4:39:54 GMT -5
Fuckin' in the Bushes
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love?
Put Your Money Where Yer Mouth Is
Little James
Gas Panic!
Where Did It All Go Wrong?
Let's All Make Believe
Full On (Liam sung)
Revolution Song (Liam sung, like the demo not the NGHFB shit version)
Roll It Over
Bang, great record;
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Sept 19, 2024 5:36:12 GMT -5
Fuckin' in the Bushes
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love?
Full On
Let's All Make Believe
Gas Panic!
Where Did It All Go Wrong?
Sunday Morning Call (or Carry Us All. Can't decide)
I Can See A Liar
Roll It Over
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Post by niftium on Sept 19, 2024 8:30:53 GMT -5
Replace WFL with absolutely any other track and this album slaps. ANY other track. Four and half minutes of Liam playing kazoo with his butt, I don't care.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Sept 19, 2024 9:15:48 GMT -5
Replace WFL with absolutely any other track and this album slaps. ANY other track. Four and half minutes of Liam playing kazoo with his butt, I don't care. Interesting. It's one of my biggest favorites on the album. I love the psychedelic mood and the buid up for the solo. Liam also delivers great vocals. It's great that we have this "softer" studio version and the more guitar rich live versions. |
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Post by niftium on Sept 19, 2024 9:38:41 GMT -5
Replace WFL with absolutely any other track and this album slaps. ANY other track. Four and half minutes of Liam playing kazoo with his butt, I don't care. Interesting. It's one of my biggest favorites on the album. I love the psychedelic mood and the buid up for the solo. Liam also delivers great vocals. It's great that we have this "softer" studio version and the more guitar rich live versions. It's the dragging out of each syllable in the verses that gets me. I've always meant to play around with adjusting the playback speed, just never got around to it. |
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Post by andymorris on Sept 19, 2024 10:12:07 GMT -5
I really like Who Feels Love, its different, noel trying another approach to songwriting.
I still dont understand why Revolution Song was left off though, such a crime. Even with the Blur thing, they sounded vastly different. Really hope there a secret final version somewhere. NGHFB version sucks so bad in comparison.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 19, 2024 10:32:22 GMT -5
Teotihuacan
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love
Little James
Revolution Song
Let’s All Make Believe
Gas Panic
Where Did It All Go Wrong
Full On (Liam Vox)
Carry Us All
Roll It Over
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Post by andymorris on Sept 19, 2024 12:03:26 GMT -5
No SOTSOG should start without Fuckin' in the Bushes. Are you mad. This is the one that does not move, ever.
But Teotihuacan could fit somewhere. Maybe after Gas Panic.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Sept 19, 2024 17:51:02 GMT -5
Great thread.
I'd love to learn more about this era. For full disclosure - I'm 36 and was a massive fan as a kid in the 90s from hearing my older cousin playing WTSMG in 95, aged 7. Have vivid memories of playing it non-stop on repeat for years, buying DYKWIM single and Be Here Now and living through the Britpop mania years. Then after the BHN hype died down I lost interest, listened to grunge and 'nu metal' until rediscovering DM just before Heathen Chemistry was released and the rest is history.
But 99-01 feels like a lost era to me - I lived through almost everything else but I still can't get my head around the change from BHN to SOTSOG.
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Post by settingson on Sept 19, 2024 19:10:15 GMT -5
No SOTSOG should start without Fuckin' in the Bushes. Are you mad. This is the one that does not move, ever. But Teotihuacan could fit somewhere. Maybe after Gas Panic. This!
Whichever track list I go with (and I have quite a few iterations!), FITB always starts it off ... and Little James, Money/Mouth and Liar are nowhere near it.
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