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Post by halftheworldaway91 on May 31, 2024 7:06:44 GMT -5
Its a complete stitch up. Trump will win the appeal
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Post by The Chief on May 31, 2024 7:18:58 GMT -5
I have questions to those defending him (over and over).
How is it political persecution? Are you saying what he did is not illegal or that he didn't do what he was accused of?
Are you saying that he shouldn't be prosecuted for falsifying records when anyone else would have been?
I'm not talking about legal errors, Biden's laptop or anything else that has to do with the democratic party. Just focusing solely on the case, I would like to understand how you can claim it's political persecution or that he will win the appeal. I'm genuinely interested.
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Post by jeffrey on May 31, 2024 7:23:02 GMT -5
I have questions to those defending him (over and over). How is it political persecution? Are you saying what he did is not illegal or that he didn't do what he was accused of? Are you saying that he shouldn't be prosecuted for falsifying records when anyone else would have been? I'm not talking about legal errors, Biden's laptop or anything else that has to do with the democratic party. Just focusing solely on the case, I would like to understand how you can claim it's political persecution or that he will win the appeal. I'm genuinely interested. Just answered this on previous page. Copy and paste from previous post: The judge made several procedural/legal errors that may allow this to be overturned on appeal. I’m saying this as someone with an education and background in the legal field, not as someone that supports Trump. Here are a few blatant issues: 1. Likely should’ve permitted a change of venue to allow for untainted jury pool. 2. Precluded key defense witness from fully testifying. 3. He confronted the credibility and veracity of defense witness in front of the jury. This can be viewed as unfairly prejudicing Trump’s defense and the jury, which, in the law, is termed reversible error, requiring a new trial. 4. Should’ve recused himself from presiding over the trial due to familial conflict of interest. His daughter profited from the trial through her consulting firm. She has raised millions in democratic campaign donations through email, citing the trial over which her father is presiding. 5. May have violated Trump’s Sixth Amendment right to a public trial when ordering the courtroom to be cleared while castigating defense witness.
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Post by globe on May 31, 2024 9:04:27 GMT -5
I have questions to those defending him (over and over). How is it political persecution? Are you saying what he did is not illegal or that he didn't do what he was accused of? Are you saying that he shouldn't be prosecuted for falsifying records when anyone else would have been? I'm not talking about legal errors, Biden's laptop or anything else that has to do with the democratic party. Just focusing solely on the case, I would like to understand how you can claim it's political persecution or that he will win the appeal. I'm genuinely interested. It’s a cult. This guy could do anything and they’d defend him. He’s been a liar, cheat and conman his whole life, not just since he’s been in politics and yet they still think he’s been hard done by here. Lock him up!
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on May 31, 2024 9:14:59 GMT -5
Serious question why would this get overturned , he was just been found guilty on all 34 counts so you're saying it'll go back to court they're going to look at all the evidence again and just decide he's innocent if that was the case they would say innocent 1st time round, but that's MAGA all over isn't it clutching at straws on a daily basis I’m going to offer an answer to your question: The judge made several procedural/legal errors that may allow this to be overturned on appeal. I’m saying this as someone with an education and background in the legal field, not as someone that supports Trump. Here are a few blatant issues: 1. Likely should’ve permitted a change of venue to allow for untainted jury pool. 2. Precluded key defense witness from fully testifying. 3. He confronted the credibility and veracity of defense witness in front of the jury. This can be viewed as unfairly prejudicing Trump’s defense and the jury, which, in the law, is termed reversible error, requiring a new trial. 4. Should’ve recused himself from presiding over the trial due to familial conflict of interest. His daughter profited from the trial through her consulting firm. She has raised millions in democratic campaign donations through email, citing the trial over which her father is presiding. 5. May have violated Trump’s Sixth Amendment right to a public trial when ordering the courtroom to be cleared while castigating defense witness. Thank you for this information and taking all that into account doesn't get away from the fact trump is still guilty of falsifying business records to cover up a payment made to a porn star
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on May 31, 2024 9:18:16 GMT -5
Also another genuine question what's the deal with Hunter Bidens laptop why does the trump base get their knickers in a twist over a computer what's on the machine that's so damning
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Post by jeffrey on May 31, 2024 10:42:08 GMT -5
Also another genuine question what's the deal with Hunter Bidens laptop why does the trump base get their knickers in a twist over a computer what's on the machine that's so damning In response to Trump still being guilty — the reason his conviction is likely to be overturned on appeal is because it could be determined he didn’t receive a fair trial due to the legal/procedural errors. If that is the decision made by the appellate court, it will indicate he did not receive an impartial court/fair trial, therefore the verdict might have been different. As far as the laptop, it appears that there is direct evidence linking Biden to some extremely serious activity. My guess is that Trump’s supporters believe this was politically motivated (I also believe this) and they want Biden/everyone else charged with their alleged illegal conduct. Emails from Hunter Biden’s laptop have been authenticated by digital forensics experts. These emails indicate that Hunter arranged a dinner at Cafe Milano in 2015, which included Burisma executive Vadym Pozharskyi and Joe Biden, contradicting Joe Biden’s claims of no involvement in his son’s business dealings. Financial Transactions: Subpoenaed bank records reveal that Hunter Biden’s business entity, Owasco PC, made direct monthly payments to Joe Biden in 2018. While Hunter’s attorney claims these were repayments for loans Joe Biden made to help Hunter, the origins of these funds, which include payments from China, have raised concerns about potential influence peddling. IRS Whistleblowers: IRS agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler testified that investigations into Hunter Biden were mishandled, and they were prevented from investigating Joe Biden’s involvement. Shapley mentioned that investigators were blocked from pursuing leads related to Joe Biden, who was referred to as “the big guy” in emails discussing financial arrangements.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 31, 2024 10:52:09 GMT -5
Also another genuine question what's the deal with Hunter Bidens laptop why does the trump base get their knickers in a twist over a computer what's on the machine that's so damning In response to Trump still being guilty — the reason his conviction is likely to be overturned on appeal is because it could be determined he didn’t receive a fair trial due to the legal/procedural errors. If that is the decision made by the appellate court, it will indicate he did not receive an impartial court/fair trial, therefore the verdict might have been different. As far as the laptop, it appears that there is direct evidence linking Biden to some extremely serious activity. My guess is that Trump’s supporters believe this was politically motivated (I also believe this) and they want Biden/everyone else charged with their alleged illegal conduct. Emails from Hunter Biden’s laptop have been authenticated by digital forensics experts. These emails indicate that Hunter arranged a dinner at Cafe Milano in 2015, which included Burisma executive Vadym Pozharskyi and Joe Biden, contradicting Joe Biden’s claims of no involvement in his son’s business dealings. Financial Transactions: Subpoenaed bank records reveal that Hunter Biden’s business entity, Owasco PC, made direct monthly payments to Joe Biden in 2018. While Hunter’s attorney claims these were repayments for loans Joe Biden made to help Hunter, the origins of these funds, which include payments from China, have raised concerns about potential influence peddling. IRS Whistleblowers: IRS agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler testified that investigations into Hunter Biden were mishandled, and they were prevented from investigating Joe Biden’s involvement. Shapley mentioned that investigators were blocked from pursuing leads related to Joe Biden, who was referred to as “the big guy” in emails discussing financial arrangements. Also…. On the laptop are photos of Hunter doing cocaine, with prostitutes, while brandishing a gun. When Hunter applied for the gun, he indicated on the form that he wasn’t using drugs (can’t have a gun if under substance abuse). Hunter lied. At the time, he was a crackhead. This is all evidenced on the laptop, and confirmed further by his own released memoir. Hunter is facing felonies on these gun charges, in addition to everything else jeffrey listed. Hunter is facing jail time, because of this. Hunter is what the left so badly wished Don Jr was.
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Post by The Chief on May 31, 2024 11:02:08 GMT -5
I’m going to offer an answer to your question: The judge made several procedural/legal errors that may allow this to be overturned on appeal. I’m saying this as someone with an education and background in the legal field, not as someone that supports Trump. Here are a few blatant issues: 1. Likely should’ve permitted a change of venue to allow for untainted jury pool. 2. Precluded key defense witness from fully testifying. 3. He confronted the credibility and veracity of defense witness in front of the jury. This can be viewed as unfairly prejudicing Trump’s defense and the jury, which, in the law, is termed reversible error, requiring a new trial. 4. Should’ve recused himself from presiding over the trial due to familial conflict of interest. His daughter profited from the trial through her consulting firm. She has raised millions in democratic campaign donations through email, citing the trial over which her father is presiding. 5. May have violated Trump’s Sixth Amendment right to a public trial when ordering the courtroom to be cleared while castigating defense witness. Thank you for this information and taking all that into account doesn't get away from the fact trump is still guilty of falsifying business records to cover up a payment made to a porn star Exactly! jeffrey I had already read that post. But in that post, you said this is your opinion as someone who worked in the legal field. As I said in my post, that's not what I'm asking about. People who defend him have been doing so way before the trial even started and they're still doing it now. From the outside, it looks like it is indeed cult behaviour based on them being unable to fathom the possibility that Trump is actually guilty of something. What's even more surprising is that the Republican Party is usually the law and order party. Yet Trump gets a pass. That's what I want to understand.
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 31, 2024 11:42:24 GMT -5
Also another genuine question what's the deal with Hunter Bidens laptop why does the trump base get their knickers in a twist over a computer what's on the machine that's so damning There are nudes of Ivãnka, Melänia and Beady’s Here Now on Hünter Bíden’s laptop….. God bless. Thank you for this information and taking all that into account doesn't get away from the fact trump is still guilty of falsifying business records to cover up a payment made to a porn star Exactly! jeffrey I had already read that post. But in that post, you said this is your opinion as someone who worked in the legal field. As I said in my post, that's not what I'm asking about. People who defend him have been doing so way before the trial even started and they're still doing it now. From the outside, it looks like it is indeed cult behaviour based on them being unable to fathom the possibility that Trump is actually guilty of something. What's even more surprising is that the Republican Party is usually the law and order party. Yet Trump gets a pass. That's what I want to understand. Republicans hate democrats, Trump ignites and fuels the hate….. God bless.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on May 31, 2024 11:45:02 GMT -5
In response to Trump still being guilty — the reason his conviction is likely to be overturned on appeal is because it could be determined he didn’t receive a fair trial due to the legal/procedural errors. If that is the decision made by the appellate court, it will indicate he did not receive an impartial court/fair trial, therefore the verdict might have been different. As far as the laptop, it appears that there is direct evidence linking Biden to some extremely serious activity. My guess is that Trump’s supporters believe this was politically motivated (I also believe this) and they want Biden/everyone else charged with their alleged illegal conduct. Emails from Hunter Biden’s laptop have been authenticated by digital forensics experts. These emails indicate that Hunter arranged a dinner at Cafe Milano in 2015, which included Burisma executive Vadym Pozharskyi and Joe Biden, contradicting Joe Biden’s claims of no involvement in his son’s business dealings. Financial Transactions: Subpoenaed bank records reveal that Hunter Biden’s business entity, Owasco PC, made direct monthly payments to Joe Biden in 2018. While Hunter’s attorney claims these were repayments for loans Joe Biden made to help Hunter, the origins of these funds, which include payments from China, have raised concerns about potential influence peddling. IRS Whistleblowers: IRS agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler testified that investigations into Hunter Biden were mishandled, and they were prevented from investigating Joe Biden’s involvement. Shapley mentioned that investigators were blocked from pursuing leads related to Joe Biden, who was referred to as “the big guy” in emails discussing financial arrangements. Also…. On the laptop are photos of Hunter doing cocaine, with prostitutes, while brandishing a gun. When Hunter applied for the gun, he indicated on the form that he wasn’t using drugs (can’t have a gun if under substance abuse). Hunter lied. At the time, he was a crackhead. This is all evidenced on the laptop, and confirmed further by his own released memoir. Hunter is facing felonies on these gun charges, in addition to everything else jeffrey listed. Hunter is facing jail time, because of this. Hunter is what the left so badly wished Don Jr was. doing bolivian marching powder with prostitutes whlle brandishing a gun isnt that a percentage of the usa haha, also i reckon he aint the 1st drug user to own a fire arm? or is he, pretty sure he isnt the 1st person to lie on an application for a fire arm? or was he if he is guilty and it sounds like he is for the drug and gun charges im sure he'll take the consequences and or convictions like a man
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Post by jeffrey on May 31, 2024 12:14:01 GMT -5
Thank you for this information and taking all that into account doesn't get away from the fact trump is still guilty of falsifying business records to cover up a payment made to a porn star Exactly! jeffrey I had already read that post. But in that post, you said this is your opinion as someone who worked in the legal field. As I said in my post, that's not what I'm asking about. People who defend him have been doing so way before the trial even started and they're still doing it now. From the outside, it looks like it is indeed cult behaviour based on them being unable to fathom the possibility that Trump is actually guilty of something. What's even more surprising is that the Republican Party is usually the law and order party. Yet Trump gets a pass. That's what I want to understand. You asked why anyone could think he would win on appeal and I provided the answer. It’s quite obvious this is politically motivated and people can see through it. And as much as many would like to believe, this is absolutely not a sentiment held solely by Trump supporters. People are completely fed up with double standards and selective persecution. For instance: Trump/Russia collusion and the Steele Dossier. The narrative was endlessly pushed that Trump was a Russian agent and there was a committee formed and assigned by democrats that lied about its findings. They told the world for years they had evidence of collusion and published/pushed these known fabrications to the world. It has been proven that the evidence cited in the dossier was false and the FBI has even indicted one of its main creators on five counts of lying to them. When incidents like this continue to happen, it causes a colossal loss of trust in the system as a whole. I don’t like or support Trump, but I’m not so blinded by hatred that I’m incapable of seeing that he’s being held to standards that Biden and former presidents are/were not.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 31, 2024 12:44:50 GMT -5
Donald Trump was very popular in the 1980s and 1990s.
People only started hating him in the 2000s when he switched to the Republican Party and ran as president.
The whole decade long outrage is so manufactured.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 31, 2024 12:53:38 GMT -5
The appeal process won’t start until he is sentenced in July. The appeal won’t be decided until after the election.
So in theory, the conviction could tank his candidacy. But then months later his appeal is overturned, and the reason for his defeat in the election looks more and more like election interference - lost because of the conviction, only for the conviction to be over turned after the election, surely everyone sees that that’s not fair.
My prediction? Trump will lose support in the polls for a few weeks, but I expect him to rebound. Trump is lucky this trial didn’t take place in October.
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Post by The Chief on May 31, 2024 12:57:37 GMT -5
Exactly! jeffrey I had already read that post. But in that post, you said this is your opinion as someone who worked in the legal field. As I said in my post, that's not what I'm asking about. People who defend him have been doing so way before the trial even started and they're still doing it now. From the outside, it looks like it is indeed cult behaviour based on them being unable to fathom the possibility that Trump is actually guilty of something. What's even more surprising is that the Republican Party is usually the law and order party. Yet Trump gets a pass. That's what I want to understand. You asked why anyone could think he would win on appeal and I provided the answer. It’s quite obvious this is politically motivated and people can see through it. And as much as many would like to believe, this is absolutely not a sentiment held solely by Trump supporters. People are completely fed up with double standards and selective persecution. For instance: Trump/Russia collusion and the Steele Dossier. The narrative was endlessly pushed that Trump was a Russian agent and there was a committee formed and assigned by democrats that lied about its findings. They told the world for years they had evidence of collusion and published/pushed these known fabrications to the world. It has been proven that the evidence cited in the dossier was false and the FBI has even indicted one of its main creators on five counts of lying to them. When incidents like this continue to happen, it causes a colossal loss of trust in the system as a whole. I don’t like or support Trump, but I’m not so blinded by hatred that I’m incapable of seeing that he’s being held to standards that Biden and former presidents are/were not. But again that's not my point. He was never prosecuted for anything about Russia or the Steele Dossier. Sure he was investigated as I would hope would happen no matter who is accused. But he was never prosecuted. So, outside the justice system, the democrats can say whatever they want, just like Trump does. In the end, as far as the justice system is concerned, it doesn't and shouldn't matter. But this is unrelated to what is going on right now. Did he or did he not commit a crime? That's all that matters.
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Post by tiger40 on May 31, 2024 13:12:24 GMT -5
I'm delighted that he's been found guilty and quite rightly so. I would love to see him locked up with the key thrown away. That would be great and the best thing to happen. On a side note there's a petition on The Petition Site to keep him out of The White House which I signed, it was emailed to me as I usually sign animal petitions and climate change ones on there.
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Post by jeffrey on May 31, 2024 13:20:22 GMT -5
You asked why anyone could think he would win on appeal and I provided the answer. It’s quite obvious this is politically motivated and people can see through it. And as much as many would like to believe, this is absolutely not a sentiment held solely by Trump supporters. People are completely fed up with double standards and selective persecution. For instance: Trump/Russia collusion and the Steele Dossier. The narrative was endlessly pushed that Trump was a Russian agent and there was a committee formed and assigned by democrats that lied about its findings. They told the world for years they had evidence of collusion and published/pushed these known fabrications to the world. It has been proven that the evidence cited in the dossier was false and the FBI has even indicted one of its main creators on five counts of lying to them. When incidents like this continue to happen, it causes a colossal loss of trust in the system as a whole. I don’t like or support Trump, but I’m not so blinded by hatred that I’m incapable of seeing that he’s being held to standards that Biden and former presidents are/were not. But again that's not my point. He was never prosecuted for anything about Russia or the Steele Dossier. Sure he was investigated as I would hope would happen no matter who is accused. But he was never prosecuted. So, outside the justice system, the democrats can say whatever they want, just like Trump does. In the end, as far as the justice system is concerned, it doesn't and shouldn't matter. But this is unrelated to what is going on right now. Did he or did he not commit a crime? That's all that matters. Once more, I have responded to a question/thought you posted: “People who defend him have been doing so way before the trial even started and they're still doing it now. From the outside, it looks like it is indeed cult behaviour based on them being unable to fathom the possibility that Trump is actually guilty of something.” The reason for my inclusion of the Steele Dossier information illustrates why people would defend him even before the trial started. In the U.S., he was accused of being a Russian asset for years, so much so that the vast majority of people who heard it, believed it (myself, included); ESPECIALLY after the release of a formal investigatory document which was approved by over 50 senior members of the intelligence community. When it was finally discovered the evidence in the report was fabricated and most of the individuals who had signed off on it, knew so prior to signing, that certainly caused some people to question everything involving Trump moving forward. Do you think the following has any relevance and/or does it help you realize why someone would believe there is political motivation behind these charges? NEW YORK (AP) — “Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee have agreed to pay $113,000 to settle a Federal Election Commission investigation into whether they violated campaign finance law by misreporting spending on research that eventually became the infamous Steele dossier.” Meaning the Hillary campaign and the DNC funded the fabricated document.
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Post by The Chief on May 31, 2024 13:36:33 GMT -5
But again that's not my point. He was never prosecuted for anything about Russia or the Steele Dossier. Sure he was investigated as I would hope would happen no matter who is accused. But he was never prosecuted. So, outside the justice system, the democrats can say whatever they want, just like Trump does. In the end, as far as the justice system is concerned, it doesn't and shouldn't matter. But this is unrelated to what is going on right now. Did he or did he not commit a crime? That's all that matters. Once more, I have responded to a question/thought you posted: “People who defend him have been doing so way before the trial even started and they're still doing it now. From the outside, it looks like it is indeed cult behaviour based on them being unable to fathom the possibility that Trump is actually guilty of something.” The reason for my inclusion of the Steele Dossier information illustrates why people would defend him even before the trial started. In the U.S., he was accused of being a Russian asset for years, so much so that the vast majority of people who heard it, believed it (myself, included); ESPECIALLY after the release of a formal investigatory document which was approved by over 50 senior members of the intelligence community. When it was finally discovered the evidence in the report was fabricated and most of the individuals who had signed off on it, knew so prior to signing, that certainly caused some people to question everything involving Trump moving forward. Do you think the following has any revelance and/or does it help you realize why someone would believe there is political motivation behind these charges? NEW YORK (AP) — “Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee have agreed to pay $113,000 to settle a Federal Election Commission investigation into whether they violated campaign finance law by misreporting spending on research that eventually became the infamous Steele dossier.” What I'm saying is that the motivation doesn't matter. If he committed a crime, he committed a crime and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as it should be for anyone else. Yet that goes out the window when it's about Trump. Then people defend him and protest and so on. If Biden was arrested for falsifying business records, the same people would be out in the street with torches, pitchforks and rope to hang him high. I anyone commits a crime, they should be prosecuted and convicted. No one should get a pass. And no, not even the democrats. If they or anyone gets a pass, it's another issue altogether. Hence why my question was: Are those defending him saying what he did was not illegal? Or that he didn't do what he was accused of? Or that he shouldn't be prosecuted for falsifying records when anyone else would have been?
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Post by jeffrey on May 31, 2024 13:44:40 GMT -5
Once more, I have responded to a question/thought you posted: “People who defend him have been doing so way before the trial even started and they're still doing it now. From the outside, it looks like it is indeed cult behaviour based on them being unable to fathom the possibility that Trump is actually guilty of something.” The reason for my inclusion of the Steele Dossier information illustrates why people would defend him even before the trial started. In the U.S., he was accused of being a Russian asset for years, so much so that the vast majority of people who heard it, believed it (myself, included); ESPECIALLY after the release of a formal investigatory document which was approved by over 50 senior members of the intelligence community. When it was finally discovered the evidence in the report was fabricated and most of the individuals who had signed off on it, knew so prior to signing, that certainly caused some people to question everything involving Trump moving forward. Do you think the following has any revelance and/or does it help you realize why someone would believe there is political motivation behind these charges? NEW YORK (AP) — “Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee have agreed to pay $113,000 to settle a Federal Election Commission investigation into whether they violated campaign finance law by misreporting spending on research that eventually became the infamous Steele dossier.” What I'm saying is that the motivation doesn't matter. If he committed a crime, he committed a crime and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as it should be for anyone else. Yet that goes out the window when it's about Trump. Then people defend him and protest and so on. If Biden was arrested for falsifying business records, the same people would be out in the street with torches, pitchforks and rope to hang him high. I anyone commits a crime, they should be prosecuted and convicted. No one should get a pass. And no, not even the democrats. If they or anyone gets a pass, it's another issue altogether. Hence why my question was: Are those defending him saying what he did was not illegal? Or that he didn't do what he was accused of? Or that he shouldn't be prosecuted for falsifying records when anyone else would have been? For those that support him unconditionally (radicals), the obvious answer is all of the above. However, there is genuine reason to believe the charges were politically motivated.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 31, 2024 14:11:39 GMT -5
I wasn’t a Trump supporter in 2016. I wanted him to win because I supported the Republican Party. But I believed the mainstream media for two years about Trump. Spent all of 2017 ignoring politics, believing Trump was awful. Remember, I was a big Mitt Romney fan from 2008 to 2016. Romney didn’t run in 2016, though.
I have since realized Mitt for the snake he is.
Then in January 2018, I looked into Russiagate on my own. And I realized the media lies about Trump to a literally insane degree that I quickly became a Trump fan. I was lied to by the media. The recent bloodbath outrage just shows how manufactured all of this is. And no, Trump is not like Hitler. 🙄
Been a Trump fan since 2018, and haven’t looked back. I’m sick of the establishment.
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Post by The Chief on May 31, 2024 14:32:55 GMT -5
I wasn’t a Trump supporter in 2016. I wanted him to win because I supported the Republican Party. But I believed the mainstream media for two years about Trump. Spent all of 2017 ignoring politics, believing Trump was awful. Remember, I was a big Mitt Romney fan from 2008 to 2016. Romney didn’t run in 2016, though. I have since realized Mitt for the snake he is. Then in January 2018, I looked into Russiagate on my own. And I realized the media lies about Trump to a literally insane degree that I quickly became a Trump fan. I was lied to by the media. The recent bloodbath outrage just shows how manufactured all of this is. And no, Trump is not like Hitler. 🙄 Been a Trump fan since 2018, and haven’t looked back. I’m sick of the establishment. So you have no problem with anything he's done or said since 2018 or before? There nothing in there that would make you not want to support him?
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Post by Let It Bleed on May 31, 2024 14:33:30 GMT -5
I wasn’t a Trump supporter in 2016. I wanted him to win because I supported the Republican Party. But I believed the mainstream media for two years about Trump. Spent all of 2017 ignoring politics, believing Trump was awful. Remember, I was a big Mitt Romney fan from 2008 to 2016. Romney didn’t run in 2016, though. I have since realized Mitt for the snake he is. Then in January 2018, I looked into Russiagate on my own. And I realized the media lies about Trump to a literally insane degree that I quickly became a Trump fan. I was lied to by the media. The recent bloodbath outrage just shows how manufactured all of this is. And no, Trump is not like Hitler. 🙄 Been a Trump fan since 2018, and haven’t looked back. I’m sick of the establishment. Mitt Romney, one of the only sane and decent Republicans left, that really says it all about the current Republican party…. And, the Russia investigation, Trump was exonerated by one person, by the attorney general he appointed, Bill Barr, and now he and Trump don’t get along because Barr wouldn’t lie about the 2020 election and say it was rigged. God bless.
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Post by globe on May 31, 2024 16:31:31 GMT -5
I wasn’t a Trump supporter in 2016. I wanted him to win because I supported the Republican Party. But I believed the mainstream media for two years about Trump. Spent all of 2017 ignoring politics, believing Trump was awful. Remember, I was a big Mitt Romney fan from 2008 to 2016. Romney didn’t run in 2016, though. I have since realized Mitt for the snake he is. Then in January 2018, I looked into Russiagate on my own. And I realized the media lies about Trump to a literally insane degree that I quickly became a Trump fan. I was lied to by the media. The recent bloodbath outrage just shows how manufactured all of this is. And no, Trump is not like Hitler. 🙄 Been a Trump fan since 2018, and haven’t looked back. I’m sick of the establishment. You are sick of the establishment so support a guy who’s been part of the establishment his whole life. Incredible.
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Post by dampcottage on May 31, 2024 16:43:10 GMT -5
Never really thought I'd be quoting Zappa but it's good to see the entertainment arm of the military industrial complex can still knock out a distraction just when it's needed!
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Post by dampcottage on May 31, 2024 16:46:28 GMT -5
Also some of you need to realise that as long as the people with the pitchforks are fighting the people with the torches those in charge will continue to do whatever the fuck they please, they are all part of the same circus
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