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Post by warewolf95 on Nov 17, 2023 4:51:42 GMT -5
Get Off Your High Horse Lady is a great tune. 🐴 I don't think I'd call it GREAT, but I don't think it's bad or anything and I definitely enjoy singing along to it. It's a fine album cut, imo. |
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Post by warewolf95 on Nov 17, 2023 4:54:46 GMT -5
Hearing Pretty Boy live changed my mind on the track. Really motors along and the chorus feels bigger. Recorded track is still a tough love for me. I don't dislike the studio version, it's one of Noel's better produced tracks by himself, but its just a wee bit lightweight. Could do with being a bit beefier in the production ala Robert Smith version. My complaint is that it felt "empty". I first heard Pretty Boy and went "that's it?". I think the Robert Smith remix is perfection. THAT is how you do a fucking remix. Definitely "beefed it up" perfectly for me. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 19, 2023 3:18:23 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion; Council Skies is really not that good after a few months, bar a few tracks.
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Nov 19, 2023 6:54:23 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion; Council Skies is really not that good after a few months, bar a few tracks. I’m with you on this. It is ok but that’s about it. |
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Post by matt on Nov 19, 2023 12:18:50 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion; Council Skies is really not that good after a few months, bar a few tracks. Haven't listened to it in many months. Have listened to Who Built The Moon and a clutch of his b-sides more in those months actually. Sadly no staying power for me. |
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Post by The Chief on Nov 19, 2023 12:56:13 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion; Council Skies is really not that good after a few months, bar a few tracks. Is it really unpopular? I mean amongst the fans here, not all the raving reviews he's been getting. Anyhow I'm with you. I've felt this from day 1 and its never gotten any better. I still think Dead To The World is the best song he's written, but other than this one, there's one great song (Think of a Number) there's 3 forgettable songs (INGUT, Open the door and Love is a Rich Man), 1 b-side material (There She Blows), 1 uninspired song that would have needed more work (Pretty Boy), 3 regular Noel (Council Skies, Easy Now and Trying to find a world...). |
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Post by PepsiNebula on Nov 26, 2023 21:40:34 GMT -5
I felt like I saw mostly rave reviews here of CS when it came out, but maybe I just noticed them more because I disagreed with them.
I don't know if I have quite the right terms here, but my problem with CS is that it's noisy but not heavy enough to balance that out. By that I don't mean that I wanted it to be more of a rock album (although I did), but that on most of the tracks, even the ones I like all right, there's too much stuff high up in the register and not enough bass to compensate. The title track is particularly bad for this, especially the strings that just whine and don't add anything, but it's a problem throughout most of the album. Pretty Boy is actually the big exception here; I know people think it's boring, but at least it's really grounded in the bass guitar.
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Post by glider on Nov 27, 2023 1:52:29 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion; Council Skies is really not that good after a few months, bar a few tracks. Haven't listened to it in many months. Have listened to Who Built The Moon and a clutch of his b-sides more in those months actually. Sadly no staying power for me. It's just too much "been there, done that" for me. WBTM was a breath of fresh air and even with its mixing faults I still go back to it occasionally. The songs are good but I get the feeling I've heard it all before. |
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Nov 28, 2023 12:59:50 GMT -5
Simple Game of Genius should not have been on his first album.
Council Skies is his second-best album.
His solo version of Revolution Song is amazing.
Ballad of the Mighty I is one of his worst solo songs (and is my least favorite on an otherwise great album).
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Post by niftium on Nov 28, 2023 13:28:42 GMT -5
I felt like I saw mostly rave reviews here of CS when it came out, but maybe I just noticed them more because I disagreed with them. I don't know if I have quite the right terms here, but my problem with CS is that it's noisy but not heavy enough to balance that out. By that I don't mean that I wanted it to be more of a rock album (although I did), but that on most of the tracks, even the ones I like all right, there's too much stuff high up in the register and not enough bass to compensate. The title track is particularly bad for this, especially the strings that just whine and don't add anything, but it's a problem throughout most of the album. Pretty Boy is actually the big exception here; I know people think it's boring, but at least it's really grounded in the bass guitar. I think Noel's ears have nothing left when it comes to the low end. Thus the CTS remasters and the last two albums (which, I agree, sound a bit tinny). |
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Post by mossy on Nov 28, 2023 19:35:52 GMT -5
I felt like I saw mostly rave reviews here of CS when it came out, but maybe I just noticed them more because I disagreed with them. It is indeed his highest rated album according to metacritic 📈 |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 16, 2023 3:22:57 GMT -5
Simple Game of Genius should not have been on his first album. Council Skies is his second-best album. His solo version of Revolution Song is amazing. Ballad of the Mighty I is one of his worst solo songs (and is my least favorite on an otherwise great album). 1 - Well it's not ? It's just a bonus track. 2 - No. 2 - nah 3 - Completely agree, its so shit. |
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Post by The Chief on Dec 17, 2023 9:59:19 GMT -5
Simple Game of Genius should not have been on his first album. Council Skies is his second-best album. His solo version of Revolution Song is amazing. Ballad of the Mighty I is one of his worst solo songs (and is my least favorite on an otherwise great album). 1 - Well it's not ? It's just a bonus track. 2 - No. 2 - nah 3 - Completely agree, its so shit. I agree with your answers here except for Ballad of the Mighty I, which is one of my favourite of his. |
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Post by andymorris on Dec 17, 2023 10:08:01 GMT -5
1 - Well it's not ? It's just a bonus track. 2 - No. 2 - nah 3 - Completely agree, its so shit. I agree with your answers here except for Ballad of the Mighty I, which is one of my favourite of his. I just cant stand it, the worst song he's ever produced. I'd be interested to hear his "60s version" though, because its mainly the production that make me physically sick (no kidding). That break before the chorus brrrr i just cant listen to it. |
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Post by matt on Dec 17, 2023 11:22:32 GMT -5
Simple Game of Genius is awful, yet another mid tempo bore!
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 17, 2023 13:29:11 GMT -5
Simple Game of Genius is awful, yet another mid tempo bore! Yep, I haven't listened to that song in a very long time though. |
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Post by Firefly on Dec 18, 2023 10:03:01 GMT -5
Well one person's shit song is another's gem. Simple Game of Genius and Ballad of the Mighty I are two of my fave songs of Noel's. Both top 5 for me. I also love the production on If I Had A Gun.
Proper unpopular opinion: can't stand DLBIA and never have done since the day the album came out - although that's not solo related, I know...it's the only really contentious opinion I have I think
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Post by andymorris on Dec 19, 2023 3:44:43 GMT -5
Simple Game of Genius is awful, yet another mid tempo bore! Yeah it's a bit long, not exciting. Was better left off as a bside-extra track. |
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Post by carlober on Dec 19, 2023 17:01:20 GMT -5
Yeah, A Simple Game of Genius should have been recorded at a faster tempo and with heavier guitars.
I still enjoy it a lot though.
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Dec 28, 2023 15:03:42 GMT -5
Simple Game of Genius should not have been on his first album. Council Skies is his second-best album. His solo version of Revolution Song is amazing. Ballad of the Mighty I is one of his worst solo songs (and is my least favorite on an otherwise great album). 1 - Well it's not ? It's just a bonus track. 2 - No. 2 - nah 3 - Completely agree, its so shit. I know Simple Game of Genius is not on his first album. I was not clear in what I was trying to say. What I was trying to say is that a popular NGHFB opinion is that the song should have made the first album and should not have been a bonus track, and it's that opinion which I disagree with. Which is why for me the unpopular opinion is that Noel was correct in leaving Simple Game of Genius off the album and including it as a bonus track. |
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