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Post by The Chief on Mar 24, 2023 12:59:35 GMT -5
I'll try to find it and give it a listen. So do we think the verse chords are D or A? (major/minor variations) It think it's a D. So D#maj7 and D#m7. |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 24, 2023 13:03:29 GMT -5
Yes, there are differences between the two; Dead to the World is more despondent, Dead in the Water is more rousing. You're right that the defeated mood here is unique for Noel. I just think that it hasn't been combined with the strength of song-writing needed to fully show off that mood as "DITW" does with its vibe. It needs another twist for me, a bridge or a fuller pre-chorus, and a better verse melody. I also find the arrangement and production a little bland if not for those accordions. I'd have liked it pushed a little more to that "haunted ghost" vibe and away from the standard acoustic-and-strings sound. But then, just like with Liam, I think ballads haven't been Noel's strong suit in his solo career, to be honest. I think he's better with a little more spice and fizz added to a melancholic mood: think tracks like Broken Arrow, While the Song Remains the Same, A Dream is All I Need to Get By. Those are the moments where has really shone. Things like this, If I Had a Gun, The Dying of the Light, etc, don't grip me much. Dead in the Water stands over them all like the Burj Khalifa. I don't necessarily think ballads have been the best output of his solo career, having TMWBTM, Flying on The Ground or WTSRTS as some of my favourite tracks, but the 3 I mentioned in the previous post just have that *something* making them special to me The songwriting here is more subtle but I wouldn't call it weak, the chorus is lovely and the transition into it (basically the "I'll bend over backwards/Let these be my last words") is my favourite bit, the verse does the job too and it all comes together well As for the production, I don't think everything has to be groundbreaking to work, this one is simple but it creates the right atmosphere and nothing is out of place or sounds sloppy (what no drums do to a Noel Gallagher song  ) I don't know if I'd call the song-writing "weak" either; I enjoy the chorus and the vibe is matched well by the ethereal, drum-less arrangement that you talk about. I think I'd call the song-writing "lightweight", instead, even "undercooked". There are nice threads of melody in there but they don't feel fully realised to me, part of which is intentional to fit the less bombastic tone, but even still - there's a fine line between ethereal and bland, and for me this song spends too much time meandering around that line, one way or the other. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 13:14:57 GMT -5
It's cool! Looks like Lana Del Rey and Bowie.
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 24, 2023 13:44:29 GMT -5
I like the song.
See you in November, Noel.
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Post by durk on Mar 24, 2023 15:35:53 GMT -5
I guess the real question is.. Will Charlotte play squeezebox on the live version?  |
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Post by LlAM on Mar 24, 2023 16:17:38 GMT -5
Do you know what I love about this song?
It's so raw, imperfect, emotional and powerful that I'd say it's almost as good as early Oasis b-sides.
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Post by Jessica on Mar 24, 2023 16:25:31 GMT -5
Do you know what I love about this song? It's so raw, imperfect, emotional and powerful that I'd say it's almost as good as early Oasis b-sides. Yeah, this 100%. |
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Post by theunderclass on Mar 25, 2023 6:57:33 GMT -5
Is a lossless version of it available anywhere? I forgot the name of that site where you can buy HQ tracks Yep, give qobuz a try. |
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Post by carl80 on Mar 25, 2023 7:44:27 GMT -5
Reminds me of If I Had A Gun only better , towards the end sounds like some type of possible James Bond soundtrack , The Chief is really upping the game for this album so far.
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Post by glider on Mar 25, 2023 8:24:08 GMT -5
Reminds me of If I Had A Gun Only better , towards the end sounds like some type of possible James Bond soundtrack , The Chief is really upping the game for this album so far. It seems like the somber, years later sequel to If I Had A Gun, given the context for both tracks. |
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Post by esseintes on Mar 25, 2023 9:44:57 GMT -5
It is a really great song! Thank you very much Noel!
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Post by rw1980 on Mar 25, 2023 11:22:35 GMT -5
Ok, think I have figured out how Noel is playing this now on acoustic.
Capo in first with all chords relative to the capo.
Verse is two chords, not sure what they are called but:
First chord : x-0-7-6-7-0
Second chord : x-0-0-5-6-0
Alternate between these for 4 bars of 3/4 and I that’s the verse.
Middle eight is open chords G, Bm, G, E
Chorus is open chords D, G, Bm, E then back to G for the last “cause I’m sleeping”.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Mar 25, 2023 11:30:06 GMT -5
The more I sing along to the words myself, the more this song pulls me in. It’s one of those songs you have to “get close to” and it will become more and more beautiful each time.
I can def see crowds just striking up the chorus in between songs at a live show.
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Post by thomuk2006 on Mar 25, 2023 12:57:41 GMT -5
Ok where did he steal it from? Great song though!
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Post by drselker on Mar 25, 2023 13:05:24 GMT -5
Ok, think I have figured out how Noel is playing this now on acoustic. Capo in first with all chords relative to the capo. Verse is two chords, not sure what they are called but: First chord : x-0-7-6-7-0 Second chord : x-0-0-5-6-0 Alternate between these for 4 bars of 3/4 and I that’s the verse. Middle eight is open chords G, Bm, G, E Chorus is open chords D, G, Bm, E then back to G for the last “cause I’m sleeping”. I don't hear the A on the D string on the first chord and it sounds to me like there's a lower A hanging around the chord, but the D is still the root. Now I've got my guitar I've playing it just like that, except that Dmaj7 which I've been fingering like so: xx0670. (Everything related to capo on 1st fret, of course). Guess we'll have to wait for a video of Noel playing it to figure the chord exactly, but it's pretty close so far! |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Mar 25, 2023 13:17:10 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone trying to figure out the chords!
I’m struggling to play the song in 3/4 time signature. So used to strumming in 4/4! Any suggestions or good tutorials out there?
Was Alone on the Rope in 3, btw?
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Post by supertronic on Mar 25, 2023 14:39:23 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone trying to figure out the chords! I’m struggling to play the song in 3/4 time signature. So used to strumming in 4/4! Any suggestions or good tutorials out there? Was Alone on the Rope in 3, btw? You'll definitely want to check this out: |
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Post by bestwick8 on Mar 25, 2023 15:12:18 GMT -5
Is a lossless version of it available anywhere? I forgot the name of that site where you can buy HQ tracks Apple Music is Lossless |
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 25, 2023 17:39:02 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone trying to figure out the chords! I’m struggling to play the song in 3/4 time signature. So used to strumming in 4/4! Any suggestions or good tutorials out there? Was Alone on the Rope in 3, btw? You'll definitely want to check this out: I definitely don't. |
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Post by Sadie on Mar 25, 2023 18:31:43 GMT -5
You'll definitely want to check this out: I definitely don't. It's useful actually. He doesn't go into the meaning, he literally just tells you how to play it |
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Post by World71R on Mar 25, 2023 19:02:52 GMT -5
Ooooh I like this. Is this actual artwork? |
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Post by World71R on Mar 25, 2023 19:10:25 GMT -5
I really, really like this song.
So many of Noel's songs really have a distinct verse-prechorus-chorus-bridge, etc. feel, but this unfolds very naturally with an emotional tenderness. You can tell Noel's hurt but is carrying on and turning that hurt into beauty.
The solo with the accordion is such a nice touch, too. I love how it's acoustic Noel with strings and just... Yea, this is one of his best solo songs. Bravo!
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 25, 2023 20:11:50 GMT -5
"If love
ain't enough
To make it alright
Leave me dead to te world"
So simple, yet so great
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Post by supertronic on Mar 26, 2023 3:02:39 GMT -5
You'll definitely want to check this out: I definitely don't. I don't remember responding to you. Calm down mate. |
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Post by carlober on Mar 26, 2023 4:17:58 GMT -5
Is a lossless version of it available anywhere? I forgot the name of that site where you can buy HQ tracks Yeah, it's on Qobuz, as someone said before. I've just bought it and I'm blasting it through my speakers in glorious Hi-Res quality. Those strings sound massive when played loud. Proper Bond theme vibes. |
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