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Post by chamu on Mar 24, 2023 4:00:52 GMT -5
Thanks god all WBTM era is over. Noel´s still Noel. He can still write great songs.
In some ways it reminds me "The Death of you and me". A perfect little tune.
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Post by welshylad on Mar 24, 2023 4:02:45 GMT -5
Listened to it a few more times, I'm quite liking it now  |
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Post by vito81 on Mar 24, 2023 4:03:53 GMT -5
Please, pay attention to the video...
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Mar 24, 2023 4:04:50 GMT -5
Here is another song similar to all the others useful for sleep
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Post by andymorris on Mar 24, 2023 4:10:04 GMT -5
So can we agree now that those songs are actually his break up album. Not the next one. Or maybe the next one again.
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Post by tezza198 on Mar 24, 2023 4:49:07 GMT -5
As others as said. Beautiful song. 9/10
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Post by jeffrey on Mar 24, 2023 4:58:39 GMT -5
Here is another song similar to all the others useful for sleep Would sit perfectly amongst a music for comas compilation. That being said, I don’t think it’s bad, it’s just far too bland (for me). |
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Post by fluff123 on Mar 24, 2023 6:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by morning_rain on Mar 24, 2023 7:15:47 GMT -5
It's kind of Noel's version of Disarm (the Smashing Pumpkins song 😅) in a lot of ways. Yeah I thought about Disarm too! Love it on first listen. What a song. |
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Post by paperbackwriter on Mar 24, 2023 7:43:50 GMT -5
Love it! Was never expecting this. It’s like a waltz, innit?
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Post by andymorris on Mar 24, 2023 7:45:42 GMT -5
It's kind of Noel's version of Disarm (the Smashing Pumpkins song 😅) in a lot of ways. Yeah I thought about Disarm too! Love it on first listen. What a song. I dont hear it ? weird, i'll have to get back to it. |
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 24, 2023 7:59:08 GMT -5
It sounds like Pink Floyd performing Shine On You Crazy Diamond during WW2 in cafe in France for characters of Allo 'Allo! and James Bond.
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Post by morning_rain on Mar 24, 2023 8:20:17 GMT -5
Yeah I thought about Disarm too! Love it on first listen. What a song. I dont hear it ? weird, i'll have to get back to it. I can't explain why, I know it doesn't sound similar, it just reminded me of it. |
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Post by mahsteve on Mar 24, 2023 8:48:08 GMT -5
Really like it.
Very minimal instrumentation on it, acoustic guitar, very understated piano, tambourine percussion, accordion and the beautiful strings.
Forgot to mention, is it a mellotron with the choir like he used on some of the songs on SOTSOG?
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Post by drummert5 on Mar 24, 2023 11:00:53 GMT -5
Really grew on me over a few listens, this one.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Mar 24, 2023 11:46:54 GMT -5
I haven't got my guitar with me, but someone on youtube was playing the song with Amaj7 and Aminor instead of D, that higher up on the neck could be played x07600 and x07500 respectively, which will sound very Noel-ish with the open strings. The Dmaj7 and Dm can played as x57675 and x57565, or 10x111110x (those are 11s) and 10x101010x if you wanted them even higher up I'll try to find it and give it a listen. So do we think the verse chords are D or A? (major/minor variations) |
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Post by jh on Mar 24, 2023 11:50:19 GMT -5
Here is another song similar to all the others useful for sleep Would sit perfectly amongst a music for comas compilation. That being said, I don’t think it’s bad, it’s just far too bland (for me). Yes it's very very dull. Even after 5 listens. Just no real impact at all. He has some superb music..simple tunes also..such a the brilliant Sail On or Dead in the Water have more impact than this unfortunately. |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 24, 2023 12:04:15 GMT -5
Would sit perfectly amongst a music for comas compilation. That being said, I don’t think it’s bad, it’s just far too bland (for me). Yes it's very very dull. Even after 5 listens. Just no real impact at all. He has some superb music..simple tunes also..such a the brilliant Sail On or Dead in the Water have more impact than this unfortunately. Agreed. Dead in the Water is the platonic ideal of what this song wants to be: all the wistfulness, all the ethereality, but with much more melodic force. The song-writing of that track just sings in a way that the song-writing here doesn't, for me; I like the chorus of Dead to the World, but the verses feel absent and the arrangement is quite bland outside of the accordions. I wouldn't go so far as "very, very dull" but I can't say that it grabs me much, either. It's a nice vibe with a sweet chorus and some emotive singing. But I've been here before with "Once" - it seems that these acoustic ballads just hit a chord with the general Oasis fan community that doesn't exist to anywhere near the same extent in me. |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 24, 2023 12:07:19 GMT -5
Thanks god all WBTM era is over. Noel´s still Noel. He can still write great songs. In some ways it reminds me "The Death of you and me". A perfect little tune. I'd take pretty much all of WBTM over this, to be honest. And I think "The Death of You and Me" urinates over every track we've heard from this album from unimaginable heights. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 24, 2023 12:17:10 GMT -5
Yes it's very very dull. Even after 5 listens. Just no real impact at all. He has some superb music..simple tunes also..such a the brilliant Sail On or Dead in the Water have more impact than this unfortunately. Agreed. Dead in the Water is the platonic ideal of what this song wants to be: all the wistfulness, all the ethereality, but with much more melodic force. The song-writing of that track just sings in a way that the song-writing here doesn't, for me; I like the chorus of Dead to the World, but the verses feel absent and the arrangement is quite bland outside of the accordions. I wouldn't go so far as "very, very dull" but I can't say that it grabs me much, either. It's a nice vibe with a sweet chorus and some emotive singing. But I've been here before with "Once" - it seems that these acoustic ballads just hit a chord with the general Oasis fan community that doesn't exist to anywhere near the same extent in me. I don't feel this has much to do with Dead in The Water, nor many other "Noel-ballads" Dead in The Water is an incredible track imo, with a fantastic and liberating chorus, Dead to The World has a different mood and purpose, and the only tune from the catalogue I'd compare it with is One Way Road Both extremely bleak in their lyrics and probably the sentiments that inspired them, both with a weird yet remarkable peacefulness to them To me, alongside Dead in The Water and Alone On The Rope this is the best ballad he's written for HFB, but I love all 3 for different reasons and I think they all have something that elevate them from the rest |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 24, 2023 12:34:20 GMT -5
Agreed. Dead in the Water is the platonic ideal of what this song wants to be: all the wistfulness, all the ethereality, but with much more melodic force. The song-writing of that track just sings in a way that the song-writing here doesn't, for me; I like the chorus of Dead to the World, but the verses feel absent and the arrangement is quite bland outside of the accordions. I wouldn't go so far as "very, very dull" but I can't say that it grabs me much, either. It's a nice vibe with a sweet chorus and some emotive singing. But I've been here before with "Once" - it seems that these acoustic ballads just hit a chord with the general Oasis fan community that doesn't exist to anywhere near the same extent in me. I don't feel this has much to do with Dead in The Water, nor many other "Noel-ballads" Dead in The Water is an incredible track imo, with a fantastic and liberating chorus, Dead to The World has a different mood and purpose, and the only tune from the catalogue I'd compare it with is One Way Road Both extremely bleak in their lyrics and probably the sentiments that inspired them, both with a weird yet remarkable peacefulness to them To me, alongside Dead in The Water and Alone On The Rope this is the best ballad he's written for HFB, but I love all 3 for different reasons and I think they all have something that elevate them from the rest Yes, there are differences between the two; Dead to the World is more despondent, Dead in the Water is more rousing. You're right that the defeated mood here is unique for Noel. I just think that it hasn't been combined with the strength of song-writing needed to fully show off that mood as "DITW" does with its vibe. It needs another twist for me, a bridge or a fuller pre-chorus, and a better verse melody. I also find the arrangement and production a little bland if not for those accordions. I'd have liked it pushed a little more to that "haunted ghost" vibe and away from the standard acoustic-and-strings sound. But then, just like with Liam, I think ballads haven't been Noel's strong suit in his solo career, to be honest. I think he's better with a little more spice and fizz added to a melancholic mood: think tracks like Broken Arrow, While the Song Remains the Same, A Dream is All I Need to Get By. Those are the moments where has really shone. Things like this, If I Had a Gun, The Dying of the Light, etc, don't grip me much. Dead in the Water stands over them all like the Burj Khalifa. |
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Post by jeffrey on Mar 24, 2023 12:37:02 GMT -5
Thanks god all WBTM era is over. Noel´s still Noel. He can still write great songs. In some ways it reminds me "The Death of you and me". A perfect little tune. And I think "The Death of You and Me" urinates over every track we've heard from this album from unimaginable heights. I concur. For me, TDOYAM is in a completely different stratosphere. |
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 24, 2023 12:43:22 GMT -5
And I think "The Death of You and Me" urinates over every track we've heard from this album from unimaginable heights. I concur. For me, TDOYAM is in a completely different stratosphere. Now that is a song that I could grasp giving 10/10 to. Perfect verses, chorus, arrangement, structure, production. It's a perfectly-cut gem of a song that shows off Noel with all cylinders running at full power. Better than Pretty Boy, Easy Now, and this track all added together like Legos. |
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Post by Sadie on Mar 24, 2023 12:48:27 GMT -5
Is a lossless version of it available anywhere? I forgot the name of that site where you can buy HQ tracks
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Post by defmaybe00 on Mar 24, 2023 12:49:50 GMT -5
I don't feel this has much to do with Dead in The Water, nor many other "Noel-ballads" Dead in The Water is an incredible track imo, with a fantastic and liberating chorus, Dead to The World has a different mood and purpose, and the only tune from the catalogue I'd compare it with is One Way Road Both extremely bleak in their lyrics and probably the sentiments that inspired them, both with a weird yet remarkable peacefulness to them To me, alongside Dead in The Water and Alone On The Rope this is the best ballad he's written for HFB, but I love all 3 for different reasons and I think they all have something that elevate them from the rest Yes, there are differences between the two; Dead to the World is more despondent, Dead in the Water is more rousing. You're right that the defeated mood here is unique for Noel. I just think that it hasn't been combined with the strength of song-writing needed to fully show off that mood as "DITW" does with its vibe. It needs another twist for me, a bridge or a fuller pre-chorus, and a better verse melody. I also find the arrangement and production a little bland if not for those accordions. I'd have liked it pushed a little more to that "haunted ghost" vibe and away from the standard acoustic-and-strings sound. But then, just like with Liam, I think ballads haven't been Noel's strong suit in his solo career, to be honest. I think he's better with a little more spice and fizz added to a melancholic mood: think tracks like Broken Arrow, While the Song Remains the Same, A Dream is All I Need to Get By. Those are the moments where has really shone. Things like this, If I Had a Gun, The Dying of the Light, etc, don't grip me much. Dead in the Water stands over them all like the Burj Khalifa. I don't necessarily think ballads have been the best output of his solo career, having TMWBTM, Flying on The Ground or WTSRTS as some of my favourite tracks, but the 3 I mentioned in the previous post just have that *something* making them special to me The songwriting here is more subtle but I wouldn't call it weak, the chorus is lovely and the transition into it (basically the "I'll bend over backwards/Let these be my last words") is my favourite bit, the verse does the job too and it all comes together well As for the production, I don't think everything has to be groundbreaking to work, this one is simple but it creates the right atmosphere and nothing is out of place or sounds sloppy (what no drums do to a Noel Gallagher song  ) |
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