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Post by PepsiNebula on Jan 17, 2023 17:42:31 GMT -5
Y'all are killing me here.
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martha
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Post by martha on Jan 17, 2023 17:47:46 GMT -5
thank you for this lmao, the original poll was like 1-5 / 5-10 / Disco pop so it got banishes lmao
a good solid 6 for me, i'll still listen it like 300 times tho, god knows i will *pinches bridge of nose*
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Post by shadowplay on Jan 17, 2023 17:50:23 GMT -5
I always rate an artist against their other work. it's impossible to compare artists work to the whole catalog of music ever released by every other artist in every genre. By Noel's standards this is an 8/10 for me and on par with most of the best stuff he's released as a solo artist. There are a lot of songs I'd give an 8/10 for in HFB, the only 9's I'd give out go to Riverman, Everybody's On The Run and She Taught Me How To Fly.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 17, 2023 17:55:17 GMT -5
The song itself is a 9/10 for me. I love the melody and think is up there with Noel's best. Lyrics are decent as well. The production, mixing and general sound, though, are really bad – like 4 out of 10 bad. Which is a shame, giving how far that chorus could soar.
All in all, 7/10.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jan 17, 2023 18:17:17 GMT -5
I stand with my 8/10, I keep listening to it and proper love the melody Agreed it deserved a much better mix though, no idea what happened there
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Post by oasisserbia on Jan 17, 2023 18:37:20 GMT -5
I am in good mood tonight and full of love so 6/10.
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Post by mouth on Jan 18, 2023 2:43:13 GMT -5
up there with noel's best? er, what?
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Post by LlAM on Jan 18, 2023 5:07:39 GMT -5
4/10 Good album filler and suits it's purpose as a single well by being catchy and inoffensive
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Post by Mario on Jan 19, 2023 0:34:40 GMT -5
I wish he would have released a demo for Pretty Boy instead of this. Massive tune!
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settingson
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Post by settingson on Jan 19, 2023 0:38:58 GMT -5
7/10
Reminded me of my school reports: B+2 - could do better.
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 19, 2023 13:52:54 GMT -5
8/10 for me.
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Post by mossy on Jan 19, 2023 15:07:28 GMT -5
Currently has the same mode average as Pretty Boy. X
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Post by andymorris on Jan 21, 2023 10:17:11 GMT -5
The production, mixing and general sound, though, are really bad – like 4 out of 10 bad. Which is a shame, giving how far that chorus could soar. Agreed. Do you think it's done on purpose so that it sounds "best" on smartphone speakers ? We had a debate somewhere in another thread. So that only the voice and a few hooks are upfront on those speakers, leaving other instruments lost in the mix ? It's weird because it happens a lot on Noel's singles, but not on other tracks. My note is still 6/10.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 21, 2023 14:07:40 GMT -5
The production, mixing and general sound, though, are really bad – like 4 out of 10 bad. Which is a shame, giving how far that chorus could soar. Agreed. Do you think it's done on purpose so that it sounds "best" on smartphone speakers ? We had a debate somewhere in another thread. So that only the voice and a few hooks are upfront on those speakers, leaving other instruments lost in the mix ? It's weird because it happens a lot on Noel's singles, but not on other tracks. My note is still 6/10. I don't really think that's the case. In my opinion, what seems to happen is Noel, over the years and heavily influenced by the likes of Sardy, has gotten used to thinking/feeling a certain sound is the best for a certain kind of songs. We can see this approach scattered throughout some of the Oasis catalog, some of NGHFB 1, some of the EP tracks and now Easy Now. When time comes to write/arrange/produce/mix/master such kind of songs, it's a safe move to go down the very same path that's worked before (in Noel's POV, that is). I acknowledge singles being mixed/mastered differently than album tracks too (most of the time brighter and a bit louder, even though clearly that's not what's happening with Easy Now), but that's doesn't seem to be the case either. Noel's singles are very irregular sounding, and that's not necessarily a bad thing – The Death Of You And Me sounds great and well-balanced, Holy Mountain is ultra compressed and dirty (but it works!), Everybody's On The Run is a tad muffled and plodding and lacks separation, Riverman is extremely medium-sounding and has little to no bass at all (but also works!), In The Heat Of The Moment sounds clean and modern... and so on. Music is context. A song sound is the result of many contexts together: the writing process, the references both the artist and the producer uses, the recording, the vibe in the studio, the producing, the arranging, the mixing, the engineers themselves etc. The problem with Easy Now sounding songs lies on that they're just dated and uninteresting – and almost characterless, at this point, cause Noel's been there and done that using himself as his own reference a freaking lot.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 21, 2023 14:16:14 GMT -5
Struggle to give it anything but a five.
It exists. It's competent. It's a song. It has a chorus, and stuff.
Nothing about it that I'd have any interest in if it wasn't from the guy who wrote Champagne Supernova.
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Post by glider on Jan 21, 2023 14:50:04 GMT -5
Solid 7, bang average Noel solo tune. It's nowhere near as bad as some are saying.
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Post by glider on Jan 21, 2023 14:53:40 GMT -5
The song itself is a 9/10 for me. I love the melody and think is up there with Noel's best. Lyrics are decent as well. The production, mixing and general sound, though, are really bad – like 4 out of 10 bad. Which is a shame, giving how far that chorus could soar. All in all, 7/10. I think the production is fine and the mixing sounds cleaner than WBTM, which for whatever reason had a muddy mix/master. The drums are Sardy bad and a bad drum sound easily ruins any mix.
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Post by Thomas on Jan 21, 2023 15:00:12 GMT -5
The song itself is a 9/10 for me. I love the melody and think is up there with Noel's best. Lyrics are decent as well. The production, mixing and general sound, though, are really bad – like 4 out of 10 bad. Which is a shame, giving how far that chorus could soar. All in all, 7/10. I think the production is fine and the mixing sounds cleaner than WBTM, which for whatever reason had a muddy mix/master. The drums are Sardy bad and a bad drum sound easily ruins any mix. I agree it sounds a tad cleaner than WBTM, but I personally don't think that cleaner = better. Holy Mountain is muddy as hell and I think that's what gives it character and colour. Easy Now just sounds bland and uninspiring, and the drums sounding terrible definitely play a big part, as you have well said.
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Post by glider on Jan 21, 2023 17:20:20 GMT -5
I think the production is fine and the mixing sounds cleaner than WBTM, which for whatever reason had a muddy mix/master. The drums are Sardy bad and a bad drum sound easily ruins any mix. I agree it sounds a tad cleaner than WBTM, but I personally don't think that cleaner = better. Holy Mountain is muddy as hell and I think that's what gives it character and colour. Easy Now just sounds bland and uninspiring, and the drums sounding terrible definitely play a big part, as you have well said. I like lo-fi sounds too, but an audio nerd pet peeve of mine is when sounds get buried in a mix, or smothered by the mastering process. Weirdly Holy Mountain was supposedly remastered on the Vol. 1 release. On the other hand, Easy Now sounds like Sardy-lite which isn't ideal.
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Post by matt on Jan 21, 2023 17:33:06 GMT -5
The drums are criminally bad.
Alan White did not die for this.
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Post by glider on Jan 21, 2023 20:05:39 GMT -5
The drums are criminally bad. Alan White did not die for this. Is Sharrock still his drummer? The plod was strong with Jeremy Stacey. Is he back?
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Post by matt on Jan 21, 2023 21:01:06 GMT -5
The drums are criminally bad. Alan White did not die for this. Is Sharrock still his drummer? The plod was strong with Jeremy Stacey. Is he back?No, and I don't think it's a problem with the drummer either. Both Sharrock and Stacey are excellent drummers in their own right. You only need to hear Who Built The Moon to see that Stacey, who contributes on a good deal of those tracks with some excellent performances, doesn't lumber and plod around like on previous High Flying Birds albums. The problem is Noel's arrangements and compositions. They are frighteningly dull. I listened to the Live Forever performance from 2021 that he did for Radio 2 and thought he'd really nailed becoming an accomplished arranger. I was hoping something of that ethereal, dreamy nature for this album, given the fact I wasn't holding out much hope of it being any sonic masterpiece given he's producing it himself. Unfortunately, Easy Now trashes that hope and we're right back to square one to the drab dark days of Dave Sardy.
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Post by glider on Jan 21, 2023 21:32:54 GMT -5
Is Sharrock still his drummer? The plod was strong with Jeremy Stacey. Is he back?No, and I don't think it's a problem with the drummer either. Both Sharrock and Stacey are excellent drummers in their own right. You only need to hear Who Built The Moon to see that Stacey, who contributes on a good deal of those tracks with some excellent performances, doesn't lumber and plod around like on previous High Flying Birds albums. The problem is Noel's arrangements and compositions. They are frighteningly dull. I listened to the Live Forever performance from 2021 that he did for Radio 2 and thought he'd really nailed becoming an accomplished arranger. I was hoping something of that ethereal, dreamy nature for this album, given the fact I wasn't holding out much hope of it being any sonic masterpiece if he's producing it himself. Unfortunately, Easy Now tune trashes that hope and we're right back to square one to the drab dark days of Dave Sardy. I think Easy Now was purposefully crafted to be a safe, familiar radio friendly single. It obviously doesn't ooze creativity and clearly sounds like Noel wanted a debut album sounding song that would rally back old school fans. I think this record will be a safer route overall compared to WBTM but will still have a dreamy tone. Sadly I don't expect to get the Motown pop/soul album I was teased with Flying On the Ground.
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Post by dadrocker on Jan 22, 2023 0:58:08 GMT -5
No, and I don't think it's a problem with the drummer either. Both Sharrock and Stacey are excellent drummers in their own right. You only need to hear Who Built The Moon to see that Stacey, who contributes on a good deal of those tracks with some excellent performances, doesn't lumber and plod around like on previous High Flying Birds albums. The problem is Noel's arrangements and compositions. They are frighteningly dull. I listened to the Live Forever performance from 2021 that he did for Radio 2 and thought he'd really nailed becoming an accomplished arranger. I was hoping something of that ethereal, dreamy nature for this album, given the fact I wasn't holding out much hope of it being any sonic masterpiece if he's producing it himself. Unfortunately, Easy Now tune trashes that hope and we're right back to square one to the drab dark days of Dave Sardy. I think Easy Now was purposefully crafted to be a safe, familiar radio friendly single. It obviously doesn't ooze creativity and clearly sounds like Noel wanted a debut album sounding song that would rally back old school fans. I think this record will be a safer route overall compared to WBTM but will still have a dreamy tone. Sadly I don't expect to get the Motown pop/soul album I was teased with Flying On the Ground. I don’t think we were teased at all with Flying on the Ground. I think it’s where it is exactly because it had nowhere else to go, not because it was a harbinger of things to come. One would think Noel would have kept it for this record if it would have fit on there. As much as I love it, I think it’s just what Noel would call a “throw away”, nothing more nothing less.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 22, 2023 5:41:12 GMT -5
9 people rating it 10/10 😂
Got to love a poll on the L4E forum.
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